godukes1970 wrote:

If Kadeem makes the Dukes' men's soccer team and gets a scholarship, perhaps his athletic skills will be more appreciated on the pitch than on the court.  Furthermore, it would be great if he and the team could win the A-10 conference tournament championship next season and earn a bid in the NCAA post-season tournament.  

Our new men's soccer coach is very interesting and turned Niagara around in two seasons. He also hired the head coach from St Francis of Loretto away to be his assistant. Kadeem would be a nice internal add for him. 6'7'' soccer players don't grow on trees.

Last edited by steve19981 (4/10/2013 12:04 pm)

As I understand it, athletic scholarships are for the term of one year which may or may not be renewed for an additional year and so on to provide usually a maximum of 4 one-year scholarships.  Duquesne didn't invent this arrangement, that's the way the NCAA has it structured.  In life not everything goes the way you would like it to go.  I can understand that Kadeem is upset that his basketball scholarship wasn't renewed, but his playing for the soccer team provides him an opportunity of getting the remainder of his college expenses, assuming a full scholarship, provided by the university.  The net effect is that he can still get a college degree with little expense to him or his family.  

If there is no scholarship money available from the soccer team, he still has the option of transferring to another college to pursue playing basketball.  It may be disappointing for him, but in the big picture it's not the end of the world.  Is it? 

Scotchngars wrote:

Its the obligation of coach if he chooses to pull it to help him transfer to another school. Not the end of the world but seems he was left on his own to find his way.

Do we know that Coach Ferry and his assistant coaches have not offered to help Kadeem transfer to another school for basketball or did Kadeem choose on his own to remain at Duquesne to play soccer?Just wondering...
 

It's a tough situation, and not toally fair, but any new coach is under pressure to get the job done. This is especially so when the first year didn't go very well. If 3 years from now the team is 11-20, Ferry will be on the hot seat, and no one will want to hear that he inherited a bunch of subpar players. Thus, it is in his interests to do what he must, within the rules, to get this team in a position to win, If that means easing out holdovers that don't fit his plans, so be it.

steve19981 wrote:

Scotchngars wrote:

Not the end of the world but seems he was left on his own to find his way.

This isn't true.

I know I drive you crazy with this, but statements like this tell me you have an in with the program. Not judging, just saying.


So is Winters staying?

Jules wrote:

I'm sure some of you are sick of hearing "back in the day."  Neverthless, back in the day, when Sports Illustrated ranked their preseason top twenty, and Duquesne was most always in it, there were many ex-varsity guys about campus.  It was tough then, tough now.   The option back then was to go somewhere else -- didn't see much of that -- or drop out and go to Vietnam.  Most chose to pay some money to stay at Duquesne, joined the Playboys, had a right old time, and a fine education.  "Many are called, but few are chosen."  That's written somewhere, but it eludes me at my old age.  

 
Very true, guys like Bubba Ried, Pete Klulic, Jr. Kennedy, Al Kanan, Cecile Banks, and so on wreaked havoc in the intramural football league.

WashPaRick wrote:

Any chance Ferry working the system? Kadeem gets a soccer schollie and walks on the basketball team next season.

Hope so! Still believe that he can be of help to this team next season.
 

president wrote:

WashPaRick wrote:

Any chance Ferry working the system? Kadeem gets a soccer schollie and walks on the basketball team next season.

Hope so! Still believe that he can be of help to this team next season.
 

If he was being given a soccer schollie it would have been announced along with the three new recruits of the soccer team IMO. He was left on his own with no schollie and the last thing I would do is walk on to the basketball were I was told good bye. Torres out mid season, Abele, Martin transfering, Kadeem let go, SJ treated as a bench player as a Senior, Datt did he play this year, the writing on the wall is clear to me. Never did Everhart blame the remains of Danny Knees players nor say, I don't know what was going on before I got here.

Jules wrote:

I had to block Bubba when I was a freshman, all 6"8" 350+ pounds of him.  I got steamrolled.   Those IM football games are still vivid in my mind.   Playboys, right?  They also had, I believe, Larry Abraham, who was 7 foot, and Rich Carlberg, who was, well, drafted by the Green Bay Packers.  Bubba went to the Chargers.  Anybody lately get drafted out of IM leagues?   Sidebar: Donn Clendenon was at Law School.  He was a first baseman for the Mets by then.   He played in one game; played one play; got laid out; got up, got in his car, and left.

 
Thank's I was going to mention Larry but forgot his last name.  Carlberg was a terrific punter.  I bet there may be still some hanging over the old DU athletic field.  The Playboys were loaded with former B-ball players and probably would have given Pitt a good game back then.  There were some great games between the Playboys and The Sheiks.

Last edited by CLK (4/11/2013 1:29 pm)

MrBrightside wrote:

Scotch, why does everything have to relate back to RE???!!!  Nothing in WashPaRick's post was a negative against Ron or even mentions Ron, but you somehow have to bring him back into the picture and compare him to Ferry.  Geez oh man, at this juncture don't you think it is time to move past the RE thing????  Evaluate Ferry by all means, even though it is very early in his tenure, but continuously bringing RE up is really, really getting old and most posters seem to have moved past   that at this point.

Exactly. Yet if anyone mentions Ron in a negative light, they're ingrates who are bashing Ron. Ron cleaned house when he got here. He got rid of the garbage before he coached a game. What was left? Achara, and AJax, two very useful players. Of course Ron didn't run them off, he's not dumb. Maybe Ferry should have shown these guys the door as soon as he got here.

MrBrightside wrote:

Scotch, why does everything have to relate back to RE???!!!  Nothing in WashPaRick's post was a negative against Ron or even mentions Ron, but you somehow have to bring him back into the picture and compare him to Ferry.  Geez oh man, at this juncture don't you think it is time to move past the RE thing????  Evaluate Ferry by all means, even though it is very early in his tenure, but continuously bringing RE up is really, really getting old and most posters seem to have moved past   that at this point.

If the mentioning of Ron irks you then I will lump you with the rest that sit by and say move on get over it. It is the very reason I won't let go. I stand with high morals and values, for those who say move on, thats the easy way out. You don't want to challange the administration to hold those accountable for the complete disrespect and smearing of a good man, you would rather put your head in the sand like GA and CD and hope everyone eventually forgets. I won't, If you don't like what I write I don't care, you seem to be an apologist to GA and are Ok with it. I came to this board to share the inner workings of the program, and how things really work in Duquesne athletics, but some just don't want to admit how bad it is and wants everyone to move on. 

And please don't tell me what to write and not write.
 

Scotch here is the link to the article you referenced.

http://www.duqsm.com/dukes-tie-as-pantophlet-transitions-to-soccer/