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3/21/2017 6:59 pm  #401


Re: New coach thread

I agree with Dukes2012 we don't know what happened. We likely have very competent leadership that is suffering from 40 years of bad moves and incompetence. That was my thinking when I noted that we would not get the guy most think we will get.   We may have to go the redemption route. Someone like the other Rice.

I say that hoping we are still in the game with some. But the names that were put forth by various posters are dropping like flies.

 

3/21/2017 7:02 pm  #402


Re: New coach thread

Panthers & Dukes wrote:

New to the site... coaching searches usually drags me out from under my rock when it comes to message boards.

What are people's thoughts on a top lieutenant like Travis Steele?

Who is Travis Steele. Enlighten us please. Baker Dunleavy is my top choice among assistants, although Jay Wright's tree has been largely barren so far.

Ok, I see Steele is Mack's right hand man. The Xavier tree has been good. Might not be a bad choice. Knows the league too.
 

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3/21/2017 7:20 pm  #403


Re: New coach thread

Simms wrote:

Well this was on the A10 message board.  As I have become the Fox from the grapes Aesop Fable, it made me feel slightly better:

Originally Posted by Bill Russell King Rice is now claiming he's staying at MU and never had any interest in DU? Who to believe?


Duquesne fans should be happy he is overrated. They should be ecstatic if they get Becker from Vermont.

I agree, I wasn't excited about King Rice at all; just don't think he would be the right fit for Duquesne.  Good that there was no deal.

 

3/21/2017 7:22 pm  #404


Re: New coach thread

When we changed from Nesti to Murray, we all said now we have someone in charge that will care about athletics.

When we changed from Murray to Dougherty, we all said now we someone in charge that will care about athletics.

And now we have switched to Gourmley and Harper, and we are all saying the same thing.

 

3/21/2017 7:30 pm  #405


Re: New coach thread

duqkurt wrote:

When we changed from Nesti to Murray, we all said now we have someone in charge that will care about athletics.

When we changed from Murray to Dougherty, we all said now we someone in charge that will care about athletics.

And now we have switched to Gourmley and Harper, and we are all saying the same thing.

Can we at least wait to see who is hired before we call these men clowns?
 

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3/21/2017 7:45 pm  #406


Re: New coach thread

Harper knows what he is doing.  If King didn't want the job, then he wasn't the right hire.  Sounds like the new regime has a game plan and a desire to win, so until proven otherwise, I'm willing to trust the process they've established.  Go Dukes!

 

3/21/2017 7:50 pm  #407


Re: New coach thread

Two new names are surfacing – Vermont head coach and Michigan State assistant coach Dane Fife.


https://hoopdirt.com/duquesne-search-update/


I for one think that Vermont's coach John Becker is a better choice than King Rice.  Still would like to see Joe Dooley in the mix.  Fife does not excite me see below record as a head coach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Fife
 

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3/21/2017 7:51 pm  #408


Re: New coach thread

I agree, that was out of line; nobody here knows what has transpired to this point.  As I said, earlier I was not  thrilled with the idea of hiring King Rice.

 

3/21/2017 8:03 pm  #409


Re: New coach thread

Fife is interesting but he might be under consideration for the Indiana job.

 

3/21/2017 8:07 pm  #410


Re: New coach thread

Well, boy if this didn't manage to drag me back up.

To be fair, didn't Harper say that they may not be able to begin in earnest until after the NCAA/NIT wind down? Or am I conflating that quote with something else? I'm not in a rush and frankly if we have to worry about this job or that job pulling a potential candidate, then they weren't necessarily someone who would be here for the time it would take to get this done anyway. What's to stop someone from buying them out in a year or two when the next job opens up?

I want the right guy, whatever that means. I don't know what it means anymore and I'm done trying to prognosticate it. Just entertain me with good basketball, compete in the postseason, and I'll be happy.
 

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3/21/2017 8:13 pm  #411


Re: New coach thread

duq81 wrote:

Panthers & Dukes wrote:

New to the site... coaching searches usually drags me out from under my rock when it comes to message boards.

What are people's thoughts on a top lieutenant like Travis Steele?

Who is Travis Steele. Enlighten us please. Baker Dunleavy is my top choice among assistants, although Jay Wright's tree has been largely barren so far.

Ok, I see Steele is Mack's right hand man. The Xavier tree has been good. Might not be a bad choice. Knows the league too.
 

 
Yeah I really like the Xavier coaching tree.  Which is why when the names were surfacing the other day I was much more excited about Pat Kelsey than King Rice.  I also liked that Kelsey had Mark Prosser on staff. I kinda watched that Prosser coaching tree from afar ever since Pitt almost hired him.  I was never a huge Dixon fan and I always wondered "what if" in regards to Skip.  Although not all his guys worked out either (see Dino).  Anyway I kinda see Steele as a decent alternative to not being in a league with competing for Kelsey.

 

3/21/2017 8:17 pm  #412


Re: New coach thread

CLK wrote:

Two new names are surfacing – Vermont head coach and Michigan State assistant coach Dane Fife.


https://hoopdirt.com/duquesne-search-update/


I for one think that Vermont's coach John Becker is a better choice than King Rice.  Still would like to see Joe Dooley in the mix.  Fife does not excite me see below record as a head coach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Fife
 

I always thought Becker should have been their first target. I'll be thrilled if they can get him.
 

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3/21/2017 8:18 pm  #413


Re: New coach thread

CLK wrote:

Two new names are surfacing – Vermont head coach and Michigan State assistant coach Dane Fife.


https://hoopdirt.com/duquesne-search-update/


I for one think that Vermont's coach John Becker is a better choice than King Rice.  Still would like to see Joe Dooley in the mix.  Fife does not excite me see below record as a head coach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Fife
 

Keep in mind that Fife took over a program at age 25 that wasn't even in a conference.  It's pretty impressive that he did as well as he did honestly.  Plus, he has been under Izzo since then.  I imagine he learned quite a bit. 

Still prefer Becker by a mile btw.


"You have to be realistic about these things."  - Logen Ninefingers
 

3/21/2017 8:27 pm  #414


Re: New coach thread

Simms wrote:

CLK wrote:

Two new names are surfacing – Vermont head coach and Michigan State assistant coach Dane Fife.


https://hoopdirt.com/duquesne-search-update/


I for one think that Vermont's coach John Becker is a better choice than King Rice.  Still would like to see Joe Dooley in the mix.  Fife does not excite me see below record as a head coach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Fife
 

Keep in mind that Fife took over a program at age 25 that wasn't even in a conference.  It's pretty impressive that he did as well as he did honestly.  Plus, he has been under Izzo since then.  I imagine he learned quite a bit. 

Still prefer Becker by a mile btw.

Would not be upset with either of these guys. Quality candidates.

 

3/21/2017 8:38 pm  #415


Re: New coach thread

Simms wrote:

CLK wrote:

Two new names are surfacing – Vermont head coach and Michigan State assistant coach Dane Fife.


https://hoopdirt.com/duquesne-search-update/


I for one think that Vermont's coach John Becker is a better choice than King Rice.  Still would like to see Joe Dooley in the mix.  Fife does not excite me see below record as a head coach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Fife
 

Keep in mind that Fife took over a program at age 25 that wasn't even in a conference. It's pretty impressive that he did as well as he did honestly. Plus, he has been under Izzo since then. I imagine he learned quite a bit.

Still prefer Becker by a mile btw.

Can Fife recruit in the east. If his strength is recruiting Chicago, and Detroit, he's going to have problems as he's not going to get many kids from there to come to Duquesne. The Big 10 owns that area. Pitt hired an assistant named Smoke, who was from Detroit. Pitt didn't land any kids from there. You might get an occasional player from out there, but Duquesne is going to live or die with players from the east. If he can't recruit the east, he will fail.

Becker: 78–18 in league play.

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3/21/2017 8:45 pm  #416


Re: New coach thread

Check out this tweet by Mike Rice Senior:

"I believe I can get norm Nixon & b.b.flenory & Willie Somerset to endorse Mike Rice for Duquesne job. They were 3 of the greats there."

If we can't get Becker or Dooley I may warm up to this idea.

 

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3/21/2017 8:58 pm  #417


Re: New coach thread

Dukes2012 wrote:

Simms wrote:

CLK wrote:

Two new names are surfacing – Vermont head coach and Michigan State assistant coach Dane Fife.


https://hoopdirt.com/duquesne-search-update/


I for one think that Vermont's coach John Becker is a better choice than King Rice.  Still would like to see Joe Dooley in the mix.  Fife does not excite me see below record as a head coach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Fife
 

Keep in mind that Fife took over a program at age 25 that wasn't even in a conference. It's pretty impressive that he did as well as he did honestly. Plus, he has been under Izzo since then. I imagine he learned quite a bit.

Still prefer Becker by a mile btw.

Would not be upset with either of these guys. Quality candidates.

After going back and looking harder at Fife I agree he would be a quality candidate.  Thanks.
 

 

3/21/2017 9:02 pm  #418


Re: New coach thread

duq81 wrote:

Simms wrote:

CLK wrote:

Two new names are surfacing – Vermont head coach and Michigan State assistant coach Dane Fife.


https://hoopdirt.com/duquesne-search-update/


I for one think that Vermont's coach John Becker is a better choice than King Rice.  Still would like to see Joe Dooley in the mix.  Fife does not excite me see below record as a head coach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Fife
 

Keep in mind that Fife took over a program at age 25 that wasn't even in a conference. It's pretty impressive that he did as well as he did honestly. Plus, he has been under Izzo since then. I imagine he learned quite a bit.

Still prefer Becker by a mile btw.

Can Fife recruit in the east. If his strength is recruiting Chicago, and Detroit, he's going to have problems as he's not going to get many kids from there to come to Duquesne. The Big 10 owns that area. Pitt hired an assistant named Smoke, who was from Detroit. Pitt didn't land any kids from there. You might get an occasional player from out there, but Duquesne is going to live or die with players from the east. If he can't recruit the east, he will fail.

Becker: 78–18 in league play.

 
As a Pitt fan I can attest that Smoke was a freaking disaster.  Dixon and assistants like that are why that program is in a tailspin right now.

 

3/21/2017 9:12 pm  #419


Re: New coach thread

CLK wrote:

Check out this tweet by Mike Rice Senior:

"I believe I can get norm Nixon & b.b.flenory & Willie Somerset to endorse Mike Rice for Duquesne job. They were 3 of the greats there."

If we can't get Becker or Dooley I may warm up to this idea.

 

LOL! None of that should mean a thing. Norm and BB played under Senior, and Somerset played with him. They're speaking up for a friend. I'm not totally against Rice though. I would take Becker, or Dooley over him in a nanosecond though. I actually like Travis Steele a bit better than Fife. Familiarity with the league is a plus there.

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3/21/2017 10:06 pm  #420


Re: New coach thread

CLK wrote:

Two new names are surfacing – Vermont head coach and Michigan State assistant coach Dane Fife.


https://hoopdirt.com/duquesne-search-update/


I for one think that Vermont's coach John Becker is a better choice than King Rice.  Still would like to see Joe Dooley in the mix.  Fife does not excite me see below record as a head coach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Fife
 

Agreed on  Becker.  20 plus wins in a C Level conference, plus his teams play DEFENSE!  Saw them ranked in the top 50 at one point this year in total defense
 


Vicimus Atlanticum decem
 

3/21/2017 10:10 pm  #421


Re: New coach thread

Tjsbmurphy wrote:

Harper knows what he is doing. If King didn't want the job, then he wasn't the right hire. Sounds like the new regime has a game plan and a desire to win, so until proven otherwise, I'm willing to trust the process they've established. Go Dukes!

Welcome to the Board
 


Vicimus Atlanticum decem
 

3/21/2017 10:35 pm  #422


Re: New coach thread

I think I like the sound of Dooley more than Rice as I read more.

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3/22/2017 7:44 am  #423


Re: New coach thread

Reported locally in Fort Myers, FGCU Coach, at $240,000 , is looking at top Asst. at NC State, since Coach Gottfried will most likely go to top programs in a year or two and put Dooley in line for HC at NC State.

Dooley is currently at FGCU that has total Athletic Budget of 13 million to spread across all men's and women's D-1 sports.

He longs for a large recruiting budget and big time program again, he left Kansas as  Assitant making 300,000 for a 220,000 salary at Dunk City.


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3/22/2017 8:07 am  #424


Re: New coach thread

Phildog wrote:

Reported locally in Fort Myers, FGCU Coach, at $240,000 , is looking at top Asst. at NC State, since Coach Gottfried will most likely go to top programs in a year or two and put Dooley in line for HC at NC State.

Dooley is currently at FGCU that has total Athletic Budget of 13 million to spread across all men's and women's D-1 sports.

He longs for a large recruiting budget and big time program again, he left Kansas as Assitant making 300,000 for a 220,000 salary at Dunk City.

Gottfried was fired, and replaced by Kevin Keatts. If they can't make Becker happen, get Dooley up here.

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3/22/2017 8:17 am  #425


Re: New coach thread

Princeton head coachMitch Henderson has two three star recruits coming in this year and the previous four years has had Five three star and six two star recruits compared to Becker who has one two star this year and the previous four years had two two stars and two three stars. Ivy coach Fran Dunphy made a nice transition from Penn to Temple, as well as Thompson has lasted thirteen years at Georgetown with mixed results. Mooney a former Princeton player has done ok at Richmond. The last four Princeton coaches have moved on to higher division one programs with various mixed results. One thing for sure is that if Henderson came to Duquesne it would be a major pay increase as Princeton does not pay their coaches. Henderson could also talk to Mooney about the A 10 as it is the top mid major conference over the last several years.

 

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