Yes he certainly does. I asked if he felt excuses were being made and he said no there never have been any excuses. Jury can be considered out on that one in the eyes of many Duquesne fans. 

zacharymweiss wrote:

Yes he certainly does. I asked if he felt excuses were being made and he said no there never have been any excuses. Jury can be considered out on that one in the eyes of many Duquesne fans. 

yeah, right up there with "I am not a crook" and "If you like your doctor you can keep him."

Call me skeptical
 

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CLK wrote:

Ferry after he got his clock cleaned by a young short handed Robert Morris team December 2014.  Got to wonder if the bus tracks ever washed out of the Dukes uniforms.



 

I don't have a problem with any of what he said. He said it was up to him to find solutions. The AAU system sucks, and has made the game dirtier than it's ever been, and that's saying a lot, as college sports have been filthy since the 1880's.
 

Wow. Once again I'm underwhelmed by Jimmy Ferry.

When Nee was fired and echoed similar sentiments, he was excoriated on DU message boards for being a disinterested, disenfranchised relic who couldn't bring discipline to the program and wasn't earning his paycheck. Ferry, I presume, gets a pass.

So how does he explain the success that other programs have? Is it the quality of the kids? They're able to win simply because they're better athletes? I'm sure it's partially true, but face facts: Coach K., Calipari, Pitino, Izzo, etc., get the most out of every kid they recruit. Kids want to play hard for them. And we have coaches in the A-10 who seem to win every year no matter who's coming through their program. So what's holding Duquesne back? It seems clear: Kids who are lower on the talent scale who aren't willing to work hard. Not exactly program-building material, now is it? 

I keep saying this: If a kid isn't doing something you want him to, or is doing something you don't want him to, then take away the thing that is most precious to him: playing time. 4 years x 30 GPY x 40 MPG = 4,800 minutes. As each game goes in the books, you don't get those minutes back. If they don't get this message, then take scholarships away.

Let's stop pinning medals on everyone and start raising champions. Please.

I was responding to Ferry's quote that " there never have been any excuses".  That just is not true.  But you are correct that it does not have relevance to right now.  Perhaps I should have let it go by.  I just want to win this season without seeing these types of quotes again.  WEB, by the way, Ferry's past 2 NCAA appearances at another school mean as much to me as Danny Nee's  many past appearances in the NCAA and NIT championship at other schools did when discussing his record at Duquesne.  It is time to win now, right here at Duquesne.  

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Rex Ryan got to back-to-back AFC title games. Then he turned into Rich Kotite.

I agree with comments made about the current coaching staff and situation though I'm willing to give Ferry some time unlike others.  I know that's not a popular view.  Still, past results mean little and it is time to win now regardless of how tough the A10 is perceived to be.

What I will add though is some of the comments made in the post re: the RMU follow up seem to hold up when you look around at sports in general and see what others are experiencing.  Just using the Pirates and the Steelers for example it is as if athletes are brain dead.  Steelers - stupid penalties because there is little discipline and a need on the part of some to show up the other team.  Pirates - no knowledge of how to run the bases and when to run, where to throw the ball on a play, etc.  Just a couple of examples of what seems to be a trend with athletes on a lot of levels - little grounding in the sport, little understanding of fundamentals, coaches who are frustrated or who can't or won't teach or discipline and athletes who won't take the education or discipline anyway.  While this isn't everywhere it is more widespread than I ever recall seeing it.

PS I think Ferry's contract is extended until the next millennium. He'll have all the time he needs unless someone has deep pockets. Really, really deep pockets.