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12/29/2015 8:42 pm  #26


Re: Georgia Tech

Gill & Colter killing us.  

 

12/29/2015 8:43 pm  #27


Re: Georgia Tech

And once again, the other team hits free throws and we don't.  Same old story


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12/29/2015 8:48 pm  #28


Re: Georgia Tech

No pressure on defense with an 8 pint deficit and a couple minutes left to play????

 

12/29/2015 8:51 pm  #29


Re: Georgia Tech

CLK wrote:

Gill & Colter killing us.  

If either of those guys even have an average game shooting, this may have been a win

 

12/29/2015 8:56 pm  #30


Re: Georgia Tech

Other than that 5 minute scoreless stretch where we lost the game, the guys played pretty well on the road against a good team. Oh well

 

12/29/2015 9:03 pm  #31


Re: Georgia Tech

The Dukes could have maintained control in second half if they just forced the ball inside instead of looking for the 3 ball that wasn't there.  It's too easy to defend the three when your not setting up the inside play.  Notice the guards only drive to the hoop for themselves, not to set-up a back-door or kick it out to an open shot. If they want to win, then those drives should lead to assists. Besides they got blocked a lot trying. Still, this team can play with the big time teams, they just got to set the Bigs up for more shots in the paint to beat them.  Not a bad game over all, just not enough scoring down the wire.    

 

12/29/2015 9:14 pm  #32


Re: Georgia Tech

Funny that Sanders and Robsinon don't get any playing time today.  AS someone pointed out above, they could have forced the ball inside more.  Still would like to see two bigs on the court at one time in some situations.


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12/29/2015 9:42 pm  #33


Re: Georgia Tech

Jackson made it off the bench near the end to help pressure the inbounds pass.  He did his job - it led to a turnover, albeit late in the game.  The young man has an impressive wing span and used it to his advantage.
I hope we find a way to develop and use him as the season wears on.  Everyone needs to step up to help fill the void by Jeremiah's loss.

 

12/29/2015 9:51 pm  #34


Re: Georgia Tech

indygjm wrote:

Jackson made it off the bench near the end to help pressure the inbounds pass.  He did his job - it led to a turnover, albeit late in the game.  The young man has an impressive wing span and used it to his advantage.
I hope we find a way to develop and use him as the season wears on.  Everyone needs to step up to help fill the void by Jeremiah's loss.

There will be some minutes available due to Jones injury. Hopefully, some of the young guys step up to take some of them.
 

 

12/29/2015 10:45 pm  #35


Re: Georgia Tech

Jones' replacement (Eric James) did an 11 and 11 in 28 minutes.  Not too shabby.  The offense scored 34 points in the paint to 24 for the bigger GT team.  Rebounds only slightly favored GT.  Over and above the Jackson contribution, Steel hit a critical 3 pointer that tied the game before Smith nailed two 3'as for GT.The Dukes just had two dead periods totaling about 6 minutes that they couldn't throw the ball into the ocean again.  They have nothing to be ashamed of.  Play as hard as they did tonight on all away games of the A-10 schedule and it is almost a lock for a 20 game win season.

 

12/29/2015 10:46 pm  #36


Re: Georgia Tech

I got into the game at the end of first half, at about the 6:07 point of the second half the wheels fell off.

DC continued to drive into the lane and miss wild shots or get snuffed. I was wondering why LG continued to launch treys with no on underneath, and miss. Tech kept Dukes from running, DC should have tried to drive and dish but at 4-16 he was ineffective.

I think this could have been a win with better shooting, but I never considered Duquesne to pull one out at GT anyway.

Jones driving and defense was missed tonight, hope the underclass men can step up. I can't understand Castro's game, or lack of it.

At least the ESPN broadcast picture was good, Happy New Years Posters........😎


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12/30/2015 12:04 am  #37


Re: Georgia Tech

Couldn't watch the game tonight but just looking at the stat line I continue to hate LGs numbers. He just can not shoot the 3 ball effectively. Yes one every 4 games he lights up but come on you are 6'7 go take it to the rack. Really Reallly Really am worried about castro.

And to the point of jackson, I have been a fan of his since he came on. Hopefully we can us him the right way.

All in all, sounds like we played hard and we did keep it a game. Everything is rolling in the right direction.  


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12/30/2015 8:12 am  #38


Re: Georgia Tech

One of the biggest weaknesses we have is that our guards aren't really able to get to the rim. DC can get there, but his lack of size makes it difficult for him to finish a lot of times. Mason is strictly a perimeter player. Next year, their guards won't shoot the 3 as well, but Smith, and Steel should be more effective getting to the rim. The next 2 games offer possibilities for a win. Dayton is good, but we can beat them at home. Davidson is not nearly as good as they were last year.

 

12/30/2015 8:56 am  #39


Re: Georgia Tech

Box Score:   http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2015-2016/13duqgt.html

Gill 3-13  1-6 on three pointers
Colter 4-17  0-5 on three pointers

Combined 7-30 & 1-11

Combined shooting 23%

Gill had good open looks but could not connect, Colter played out of control most of the second half. He was most effective in fast breaks but once GT closed that down he struggled. They doubled Micah making it very difficult to get off a shot leaving Gill open.






 

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12/30/2015 1:31 pm  #40


Re: Georgia Tech

I think they gagged when crunch time arrived.  Nobody wanted the ball except Mason, and he was blanketed.  Thus, Colter's ill-fated drives with time expiring.  Add in the chokes at the foul line (Mason included) and its a loss.   Duquesne does not have a winners mindset yet, and that is very difficult thing to come by.  Had it once long ago, but lost it.  The Pirates lost theirs for a generation.  The Steelers never had one until Joe Greene brought his.  

 

12/30/2015 2:35 pm  #41


Re: Georgia Tech

Ok after looking at LGs stats over this years games I really am frustrated. The last couples games have just been brutal. The worst part is these are WIDE OPEN shots that he is missing. All of his shots are so flat and line drives. This guy is our be rebounder and is fast off the dribble, get him go inside the three point line. If I was ferry there is no way I would let him chuck up brick after brick.

As far as the rest of the offense I also believe we need to set up the inside first and walk our way out.
I think D.C. is a beast, hopefully hell start going again and not try to do everything himself. Let feature Powell, James, Sanders, Steel, and Jackson some more.

We can beat Dayton and Davidson.


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12/30/2015 3:12 pm  #42


Re: Georgia Tech

Half time score WBB
DU 45
Pitt 30
At Petersen
JF should ask DB for some pointers

 

 

12/30/2015 6:53 pm  #43


Re: Georgia Tech

Mike Ignelsi wrote:

I think they gagged when crunch time arrived.  Nobody wanted the ball except Mason, and he was blanketed.  Thus, Colter's ill-fated drives with time expiring.  Add in the chokes at the foul line (Mason included) and its a loss.   Duquesne does not have a winners mindset yet, and that is very difficult thing to come by.  Had it once long ago, but lost it.  The Pirates lost theirs for a generation.  The Steelers never had one until Joe Greene brought his.  

I was watching  the game with the G-Tech anouncers calling the game and they were very impressed with Lewis and how he was affecting what G-Tech was doing, while he was in there we were neck and neck in scoring, but when coach sat him down the last 6 plus minutes, the game slipped away.  Sometimes the hidden stats are what he made their team do to get around him. Also, while he was on the bench, G-Tech put their 6-10  soph. center back in and he REALLY affected the game. The G-Tech folks calling the game commented on Ferry not responding with sending in our 6-10 center to counter and that was at about 5 plus minutes left?  I hope the coaches spend some time on the film of this game. It is the difference in what went right, and what went wrong, and how to adjust. I believe this team this year can be competitive if they start setting up the Bigs with some dribble drives and feed the ball , back-door to them instead of going to the hoop with 3 defenders that collapsed on them (leaving everyone else open at that moment).  Micah and Derrick will score more late in the game if they first start hurting teams inside to collapse the defense.  Otherwise, they are not going to get very much daylight to shoot.   This is a well balance team that hasn't played it's best game yet.  I think they can go 20 plus. Some  game predictors are showing 18 wins,  but this team can grow and win more if they use that balance more.  The seniors want to put it on their back late in the game, but in this case, it should have been to set up the inside game instead of launching contested 3's.       

 

12/30/2015 7:00 pm  #44


Re: Georgia Tech

Good effort by the Dukes in Atlanta last night.  Very impressed with the overall defensive effort and rebounding.  The Dukes defensive efficiency continues to improve - it's now at 102.6, good enough for 185th in the country (compared to last year's 110.8 and 322nd). Unfortunately, the 3 ball continues to be the Dukes' nemesis.  The opponents' 3 point percentage is now 41.9%, which puts the Dukes 341st in the country out of 351.  GT's 8-18 performance (44.4%) hurt along with the timing - 3 in a row in two minutes after the Dukes had a 56-54 lead at the 8 minute mark.

With Jeremiah out, it was nice to see another very good performance by Eric James.  Unfortunately, when one of your guards (Colter) has an off-game offensively, you need someone to pick up some points.

Gill continues to struggle offensively against top notch competition.  His Pomeroy offensive rating this year is 105.8, but against top 100 competition it is 68.6 (it is a small sample size - just Pitt and GT - who both by the way just left him open to take 3 pointers and miss them).  Last year in 13 Top 100 games, his offensive rating was 88.8 vs. overall at 102.2.  It's not a good pattern.  Powell's offensive game is very limited at this point of his development; this was a tough matchup for him.  He doesn't have a good enough handle to create his own shot, he gets taken out of his game by bigger bodies and he doesn't have an outside shot. His 19 minutes off of the bench were pretty much invisible.

I don't know if this would have made any difference in the outcome, but I don't like the way that the Dukes were coached to finish this game. With the makeup of the Dukes (3 point shooters and quickness), the Dukes should be in a position to extend games a little longer than most teams.  Ferry did not do this.  Situation: Dukes down by 8 with 1:32 to go after Gill's dunk. If I'm coaching, I'm pressuring and then fouling.  If I recall, the Dukes did neither - James committed a foul after 20 seconds ran off of the clock.  Why?  To a lesser degree, you are down by 12 with 58 seconds left - why do you take out Colter and Mason?  It's almost like the coaching staff threw up the white flag too soon.  It probably would not have made any difference, but I would have liked to see the Dukes go down kicking, scratching and fighting.  

 

12/30/2015 7:02 pm  #45


Re: Georgia Tech

The Dukes scored 34 in the Paint.  GT scored 24 in the Paint.  What more did you want them to do with their inside-outside game?  Too many missed shots from all concerned from the outside.  That happens occasionally and when it does good results do not happen.  Very simple math of their shooting 25 and making 18 foul shots to the Dukes shooting 10 shot and 4 made says it all.  Rebounds were essentially even.  I took nothing negative away from the game except that it will be a loss forever and a day.   Too much good happened for me to think otherwise.  The team is getting better.  They can play and compete with the big boys. That is what I take away from the OOC games.  No more and no less!

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12/30/2015 8:37 pm  #46


Re: Georgia Tech

grammudder wrote:

The Dukes scored 34 in the Paint.  GT scored 24 in the Paint.  What more did you want them to do with their inside-outside game?  Too many missed shots from all concerned from the outside.  That happens occasionally and when it does good results do not happen.  Very simple math of their shooting 25 and making 18 foul shots to the Dukes shooting 10 shot and 4 made says it all.  Rebounds were essentially even.  I took nothing negative away from the game except that it will be a loss forever and a day.   Too much good happened for me to think otherwise.  The team is getting better.  They can play and compete with the big boys. That is what I take away from the OOC games.  No more and no less!

I agree with you, I do not want to be discouraged by this game by all means. I am just very concerned about LG shooting struggles. Why is he allowed to chuck threes up game in and game out. When he came into the program I envisioned him as driver. I get they are wide open but every flat missed shot sucks the wind out of these guys.


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12/30/2015 9:59 pm  #47


Re: Georgia Tech

currentstudent wrote:

grammudder wrote:

The Dukes scored 34 in the Paint.  GT scored 24 in the Paint.  What more did you want them to do with their inside-outside game?  Too many missed shots from all concerned from the outside.  That happens occasionally and when it does good results do not happen.  Very simple math of their shooting 25 and making 18 foul shots to the Dukes shooting 10 shot and 4 made says it all.  Rebounds were essentially even.  I took nothing negative away from the game except that it will be a loss forever and a day.   Too much good happened for me to think otherwise.  The team is getting better.  They can play and compete with the big boys. That is what I take away from the OOC games.  No more and no less!

I agree with you, I do not want to be discouraged by this game by all means. I am just very concerned about LG shooting struggles. Why is he allowed to chuck threes up game in and game out. When he came into the program I envisioned him as driver. I get they are wide open but every flat missed shot sucks the wind out of these guys.

I totally agree , this team is the strongest team I've seen since Aaron was Point and we had Damian and Billy, only, this team has more muscle and they are young and are going to be around for awhile. I didn't think, for years that Ferry was it, but somehow he has recruited a very impressive interior team, but he needs to get them into  the game. Late in this game, the Dukes went from a well balanced game plan back to that perimeter, chuck up 3 game.  This team has the potential to be the real deal, it just takes a game plan that exploits our bigs to open up the perimeter game, not the other way around.  These 2 seniors should take more pride in assist that points if they want to win. I didn't like Ferry coming in here, but, I am a little taken back at the talent he has standing in the paint this year. This maybe the team that can get there.  This season is getting a little interesting, really.  Though they lost, it wasn't a pushover, in fact, they should have won.  Learning experience.  Coaches look at the film, first half, they can beat anyone, second half, late, everything went wrong.  Growing moment.   

 

12/30/2015 11:13 pm  #48


Re: Georgia Tech

currentstudent wrote:

grammudder wrote:

The Dukes scored 34 in the Paint.  GT scored 24 in the Paint.  What more did you want them to do with their inside-outside game?  Too many missed shots from all concerned from the outside.  That happens occasionally and when it does good results do not happen.  Very simple math of their shooting 25 and making 18 foul shots to the Dukes shooting 10 shot and 4 made says it all.  Rebounds were essentially even.  I took nothing negative away from the game except that it will be a loss forever and a day.   Too much good happened for me to think otherwise.  The team is getting better.  They can play and compete with the big boys. That is what I take away from the OOC games.  No more and no less!

I agree with you, I do not want to be discouraged by this game by all means. I am just very concerned about LG shooting struggles. Why is he allowed to chuck threes up game in and game out. When he came into the program I envisioned him as driver. I get they are wide open but every flat missed shot sucks the wind out of these guys.

3's are WAY more efficient than 2's. Especially when you're talking about LG who can't finish at the rim if you couldn't tell. Unless you want LG to take long 2's, which is the worst shot in basketball, IDK what to say. Kid had an off night hopefully he bounces back Saturday.

Last edited by Steel city AJ (12/30/2015 11:14 pm)

 

12/31/2015 1:22 am  #49


Re: Georgia Tech

Steel city AJ wrote:

currentstudent wrote:

grammudder wrote:

The Dukes scored 34 in the Paint.  GT scored 24 in the Paint.  What more did you want them to do with their inside-outside game?  Too many missed shots from all concerned from the outside.  That happens occasionally and when it does good results do not happen.  Very simple math of their shooting 25 and making 18 foul shots to the Dukes shooting 10 shot and 4 made says it all.  Rebounds were essentially even.  I took nothing negative away from the game except that it will be a loss forever and a day.   Too much good happened for me to think otherwise.  The team is getting better.  They can play and compete with the big boys. That is what I take away from the OOC games.  No more and no less!

I agree with you, I do not want to be discouraged by this game by all means. I am just very concerned about LG shooting struggles. Why is he allowed to chuck threes up game in and game out. When he came into the program I envisioned him as driver. I get they are wide open but every flat missed shot sucks the wind out of these guys.

3's are WAY more efficient than 2's. Especially when you're talking about LG who can't finish at the rim if you couldn't tell. Unless you want LG to take long 2's, which is the worst shot in basketball, IDK what to say. Kid had an off night hopefully he bounces back Saturday.

An off night? he's had two acceptable shooting performances this whole year. At his size, id rather take it to the rack and get fouled than shoot line drive bricks.


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12/31/2015 7:50 am  #50


Re: Georgia Tech

Gill should be "encouraged" to severely limit his 3 point attempts.  Even though he periodically has a decent game from 3 point range, he is generally a poor 3 point shooter and the team really struggles when he misses shot after shot.  He has been very good on the boards and the team would be better served if he played inside more and worked to become more proficient from close range.  Maybe he will get better at 3s but right now his skill level does not justify the number of attempts--in my opinion.

 

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