102 the point your missing is that we where told that the caliber of coach we were getting was a next level guy. In your wildest dreams you can not classify what we have watched as being on that level.

How about we just compare him to anyone of the coaches in our own league. Hurley lost supposedly the best player in the league and they play a tougher schedule. Last I looked they are a 1 1/2 in front of us. And I think he's an ass but he gets it done.

Last edited by The Dome (2/24/2016 4:26 pm)

My friend a coach that is good can coach in any league. That is a very convenient excuse as is blaming the guy who is no longer here and oh by the way I hold him accountable.

I as many others on this board expect to see progress, player development, discipline and some form of accountibility for what occurs on the court. Sorry simply wining 2 more games than last year and 2 more than the year prior doesn't cut it.

Last edited by The Dome (2/24/2016 4:56 pm)

I made my prediction of 14 wins and by NCAA standards that where we are. I could care less as to what you would hold me to. Your interpretation skills need a little bit of work by the way I don't see how you come up with some of your conclusions.

Duques102 wrote:

There is no one in the program above being held accountable, that's why I'm saying neither guy was or is perfect. Building on winning each year and consistently improving quality of recruits is what I want to see. To this point not enough of it has happened, but it is happening to an extent. That's why I'm not in favor of blowing up the whole thing and starting over yet again. So based on the end of your comment you think we won't win any more games this year? I'll hold you to that one buddy. Believe that.

Nobody (that I can see) is suggesting is that Ferry be fired this year.  Duques102 in another post you said that you expect Ferry will still win 19 games this year.  All I can say is from your lips (or in this case fingers) to God's ears.  This would go a long way to providing some hope.  If on the other hand this team goes out with a whimper with 0 or only 1 more win then asking posters to strain to see improvement is like asking them to find the fly poop in the pepper shaker.  Ferry will have at least two more years to prove he can ever be a next level coach  here at Duquesne.  If our goal is not to win and get to the NCAA and win championships DU should stop pretending and stop wasting money on the program.    
 

CLK wrote:

Duques102 wrote:

There is no one in the program above being held accountable, that's why I'm saying neither guy was or is perfect. Building on winning each year and consistently improving quality of recruits is what I want to see. To this point not enough of it has happened, but it is happening to an extent. That's why I'm not in favor of blowing up the whole thing and starting over yet again. So based on the end of your comment you think we won't win any more games this year? I'll hold you to that one buddy. Believe that.

Nobody (that I can see) is suggesting is that Ferry be fired this year.  Duques102 in another post you said that you expect Ferry will still win 19 games this year.  All I can say is from your lips (or in this case fingers) to God's ears.  This would go a long way to providing some hope.  If on the other hand this team goes out with a whimper with 0 or only 1 more win then asking posters to strain to see improvement is like asking them to find the fly poop in the pepper shaker.  Ferry will have at least two more years to prove he can ever be a next level coach  here at Duquesne.  If our goal is not to win and get to the NCAA and win championships DU should stop pretending and stop wasting money on the program.    
 

I look at improvement on a season by season basis. I don't think anyone claimed he should be fired. As I've repeated countless times I don't think he has done enough or as much as I've wanted at this point, but I do agree he has at least warranted a little more time. It's not like we went from 8 to 7 to 5 wins. It's not like the level of recruiting hasn't improved. These are things I want to see. I am a Duquesne alum and ncaa tourney appearances are the only thing I want to see but I understand it takes time, as with any team in any sport when a team has decades of mediocrity or worse. I hope we can get to 19 I don't think it will happen. I could definitely see 17 or 18 though and that would be good enough for me this year. That's why I didn't make a win prediction before the season. I don't like speculating before we know anything. That number changes week to week for me

If I'm Dave Harper, I'm trying to assess one thing: Is Jim Ferry the coach that is going to get the Dukes to the NCAA tournament in the next 3 years (or whatever remains on his contract)?  If I don't think he will, then I'm starting NOW to figure out the exit strategy and find a successor. Not saying that it will happen this year (it may), but you could be sure I would have my plan in place.

Close games are won by effective coaching.  A blow out - the coach can't do much about that During the game.  But, the coach CAN do something about the close game when it is going on.

Bilgy wrote:

How many games has Duquesne lost this year because of the refs?  That must be considered.

Old football coach said this all the time. "Don't put the game in the refs hand". 
Yes we have gotten some bad calls go our way but I don't know if this should be taken in considerations when speaking about our overall basketball program. 

Bilgy wrote:

How many games has Duquesne lost this year because of the refs?  That must be considered.

Zero. It was a tightly called game and despite a flurry of fouls, there was no adjustment. To blame any game, let alone any number of games on the refs, is ridiculous. Worst case scenario, you go deeper on your bench, which in our case has been woefully underdeveloped.