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We are once again in the toilet when it comes to a prestige program. Third in the city? Hell, I bet there are more Penn State fans in Pgh than Duquesne fans. I would drop them even lower. And it will probably stay that way for quite some time. I still don't think we're number 3 for reasons I've stated on a number of occassions. This game doesn't change any of that but let the team think we are. Let them play with some pride and a chip on their shoulder like Robert Morris does and maybe we'll get somewhere. That team has more guts and fortitude than anything we've trotted out there since I've been around. Jim Ferry needs to make sure that culture changes. Let them enjoy their win but unless they get out of the NEC (remember the Patriot, MAAC, and Am East all passed on them this year) it really won't get much better for Robert Morris than this. Being in the NEC really limits how much they can take advantage of this. NEC teams don't even sniff the rankings. Most of the other small leagues in the east have either had teams ranked, or won games in the NCAA Tournament. The NEC has done neither. I still don't think we're number 3 for reasons I've stated on a number of occassions. This game doesn't change any of that but let the team think we are. Let them play with some pride and a chip on their shoulder like Robert Morris does and maybe we'll get somewhere. That team has more guts and fortitude than anything we've trotted out there since I've been around. Jim Ferry needs to make sure that culture changes. While Rome is burning Nero is playing his fiddle. Steve really? I still don't think we're number 3 for reasons I've stated on a number of occassions. This game doesn't change any of that but let the team think we are. Let them play with some pride and a chip on their shoulder like Robert Morris does and maybe we'll get somewhere. That team has more guts and fortitude than anything we've trotted out there since I've been around. Jim Ferry needs to make sure that culture changes. While Rome is burning Nero is playing his fiddle. Steve really? Rome's not burning yet but it has a really, really, really bad case of depression and self loathing. Some citizens are even suicidal and threatening to jump into the Tiber. I still don't think we're number 3 for reasons I've stated on a number of occassions. This game doesn't change any of that but let the team think we are. Let them play with some pride and a chip on their shoulder like Robert Morris does and maybe we'll get somewhere. That team has more guts and fortitude than anything we've trotted out there since I've been around. Jim Ferry needs to make sure that culture changes. While Rome is burning Nero is playing his fiddle. Steve really? Rome's not burning yet but it has a really, really, really bad case of depression and self loathing. Some citizens are even suicidal and threatening to jump into the Tiber. Last edited by duqkurt (3/19/2013 11:01 pm) While Rome is burning Nero is playing his fiddle. Steve really? Rome's not burning yet but it has a really, really, really bad case of depression and self loathing. Some citizens are even suicidal and threatening to jump into the Tiber. I believe I'm venting as well. Did you read what I wrote or did you not make it past the first sentence? Last edited by steve19981 (3/20/2013 12:37 am) I like the helpful info you provide in your articles. I?ll bookmark your wephorum and check again here regularly. I?m quite sure I?ll learn a lot of new stuff right here! Good luck for the next! Steve, sorry the impact of what just happened is not going to just fade away and is not confinded to DU message boards. You can try to spin the were not numer 3 and shout it as loud as you want. Last edited by CLK (3/20/2013 6:02 am) Of course what they are also saying is that what RE did amounted to basically nothing. For Duquesne, going to the CBI, and even the NIT isn't enough. Until Duquesne earns a bid to the dance, we are nothing to people outside of this board. The high points under RE felt good to us die hards, but in the end did very little to change the perception of us as a crap program. Ferry will need to keep recruiting like he's done so far this year if that is to change. LaSalle, and Bona have danced, only us and Fordham are still holding the league back. Steve, sorry the impact of what just happened is not going to just fade away and is not confinded to DU message boards. You can try to spin the were not numer 3 and shout it as loud as you want. Again Amodio is a huge liability for this University & Charlie. If this team wins 13 games next year you still have this fractured base via the alumni media student what students general pgh basketball fans etc. This is not an over reaction its a fact. Again Amodio is a huge liability for this University & Charlie. If this team wins 13 games next year you still have this fractured base via the alumni media student what students general pgh basketball fans etc. This is not an over reaction its a fact. Fractured base is actually my primary concern with Amodio at this point. If the men's team wins 13 games next year and there are no A-10 championships/NCAA apprearances for any other sport, I will likely switch sides on him. He has another year from me. I'd like to give him two but I'm not so sure I can. Last edited by steve19981 (3/20/2013 8:04 am) Congrats to Bobby Mo. There, I said it. It really wasn't that hard. They truly deserve a pat on the back for what they have accomplished in recent years including last night's game against the reigning national champs, albeit a sub par Kentucky team that in no way resembles last year's squad. That is not a negative concerning Robert Morris, BTW. They could only play the Kentucky team that showed up.Credit where credit is due. I do look forward to the day that we at Duquesne will be able to point to some recent successes (a trip to the dance) and be as proud or even prouder than Bobby Mo is this morning. It will happen and not ten years down the road. I am developing confidence in Ferry and Company and, as stated previously, I see a huge upturn in our basketball fortunes, in spite of, if you will, possible problems with the athletic department. Let's hang in. It could be fun. If you believe in karma, nothing but good things has happened to Bobby Mo since we classlessly stole their coach after he had only been there 1 year. I doubt any of this happens if Nee had been left alone. Again Amodio is a huge liability for this University & Charlie. If this team wins 13 games next year you still have this fractured base via the alumni media student what students general pgh basketball fans etc. This is not an over reaction its a fact. Last edited by CLK (3/20/2013 11:42 am) Got to give Andy Toole credit. He kicked his best player off the team, and still managed to win. He'll be getting a new job in a couple of weeks, along with a big pay raise. If you believe in karma, nothing but good things has happened to Bobby Mo since we classlessly stole their coach after he had only been there 1 year. I doubt any of this happens if Nee had been left alone. I guess another brilliant move on our part. I was as shocked as anyone when Nee fell flat on his face here. He had done so well over most his career. Does anyone know what happened to him, like where did he end up? If you believe in karma, nothing but good things has happened to Bobby Mo since we classlessly stole their coach after he had only been there 1 year. I doubt any of this happens if Nee had been left alone. I guess another brilliant move on our part. I was as shocked as anyone when Nee fell flat on his face here. He had done so well over most his career. Does anyone know what happened to him, like where did he end up? I hated the Nee hire. He was never that good. If you look at his record closely, he really only had one really good year at nebraska, and he promptly lost to a 14 seed in the tournament. Most years he was around .500 in the Big 12, with a bunch of home wins over cupcakes in the OOC. Just how good was Kentucky this year? They were only 5 pt. favorites over RMU, I believe. This isn't the Kentucky squad that won the NCAA last year, not even close. I still give RMU credit. They stood up and were counted. Andy Toole deserves to get a real job out of this. Though we are the worst men's BBall team in the city we are the best women's team in the city Got to give Andy Toole credit. He kicked his best player off the team, and still managed to win. He'll be getting a new job in a couple of weeks, along with a big pay raise. I remember RE kicked the A-10 rookie of the year off the team. How many coaches would have made that stand to protect the integrity of the school? Mitchell subsequently brought down Seton Halls coach. Good for Andy Toole welcome the new darlings of college basketball in the Burgh. Oh by the way West Liberty & IUP in Div II would get are behinds. We are 5th locally. Watch out for CMU. Say what you will, RMU was all over ESPN Sports Center this morning and every local Pgh talk show. When was the last time we saw ANY Duquesne highlight on ESPN? Just how good was Kentucky this year? They were only 5 pt. favorites over RMU, I believe. This isn't the Kentucky squad that won the NCAA last year, not even close. I still give RMU credit. They stood up and were counted. Andy Toole deserves to get a real job out of this. If these big time teams would go on the road, you'd see many more scores like this. Even Pitt can't get blue bloods to come to town. Schools like Kentucky usually will only go on the road to face a Kansas, Indiana, or Carolina, unless the other school is located in a recruiting hotbed. . I do look forward to the day that we at Duquesne will be able to point to some recent successes (a trip to the dance) and be as proud or even prouder than Bobby Mo is this morning.. Last edited by Tejas_Duke (3/20/2013 5:31 pm)
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BTW, bet the NEC wouldn't even consider Duquesne at this point if they wanted to move from the A-10.
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Dukes are 0-8 in games where anyone is paying attention in the last 7 years (4 city games since they were moved a neutral site, Rhode Island 06-07, A-10 finals, NIT @ V-Tech, vs Xavier '10-11, ). Robert Morris is 1-3.
Let them enjoy their win but unless they get out of the NEC (remember the Patriot, MAAC, and Am East all passed on them this year) it really won't get much better for Robert Morris than this.
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Dukes are 0-8 in games where anyone is paying attention in the last 7 years (4 city games since they were moved a neutral site, Rhode Island 06-07, A-10 finals, NIT @ V-Tech, vs Xavier '10-11, ). Robert Morris is 1-3.
Let them enjoy their win but unless they get out of the NEC (remember the Patriot, MAAC, and Am East all passed on them this year) it really won't get much better for Robert Morris than this.
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Ironduke81 wrote:steve19981 wrote:
Dukes are 0-8 in games where anyone is paying attention in the last 7 years (4 city games since they were moved a neutral site, Rhode Island 06-07, A-10 finals, NIT @ V-Tech, vs Xavier '10-11, ). Robert Morris is 1-3.
Let them enjoy their win but unless they get out of the NEC (remember the Patriot, MAAC, and Am East all passed on them this year) it really won't get much better for Robert Morris than this.
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steve19981 wrote:Ironduke81 wrote:steve19981 wrote:
Dukes are 0-8 in games where anyone is paying attention in the last 7 years (4 city games since they were moved a neutral site, Rhode Island 06-07, A-10 finals, NIT @ V-Tech, vs Xavier '10-11, ). Robert Morris is 1-3.
Let them enjoy their win but unless they get out of the NEC (remember the Patriot, MAAC, and Am East all passed on them this year) it really won't get much better for Robert Morris than this.
You once asked me in a post if I thought you were "such an ego-maniac" concerning a post you made. Tonight that answer is yes. Why can't you just let people vent?
Why must you always defend the mess that is this program and this athletic department? No one associated with Duquesne thinks this is a good night But here you are pushing your reasons why Duquesne is Number 2. Seriously, can't you just let people be angry for a night and get over it? Why provoke everyone with your "gee aww shucks" everything is going to be great mentality.
Did you read the tweets? People are really enjoying making fun of us tonight. And no one at Duquesne in a position of power gives a sh#t about it. I guarantee this not one person in that athletic department feels the knot in their stomachs that we feel tonight. Please give it a rest.
I really needed to say that and get it off my chest.
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duqkurt wrote:steve19981 wrote:Ironduke81 wrote:
You once asked me in a post if I thought you were "such an ego-maniac" concerning a post you made. Tonight that answer is yes. Why can't you just let people vent?
Why must you always defend the mess that is this program and this athletic department? No one associated with Duquesne thinks this is a good night But here you are pushing your reasons why Duquesne is Number 2. Seriously, can't you just let people be angry for a night and get over it? Why provoke everyone with your "gee aww shucks" everything is going to be great mentality.
Did you read the tweets? People are really enjoying making fun of us tonight. And no one at Duquesne in a position of power gives a sh#t about it. I guarantee this not one person in that athletic department feels the knot in their stomachs that we feel tonight. Please give it a rest.
I really needed to say that and get it off my chest.
I can still keep perspective when things are crappy and yes this is crappy. I don't call that an "everything is going great mentality." If I think things are going bad, trust me, I'll let you know about it. I did with Everhart. It's funny how I can be called a Ron hater by some and it's forgotten the next when I qualify something negative. In this case you can't get past the postive in an overwhelmingly critical statement.
I'm incredibly frustrated with what has happened with this programs inability to get over the hump or win a single game when someone beside our circle of devoted followers is watching. Good for Robert Morris though they won their's and the deserved to win it. It would be nice if we could do the same.
Yes I read the tweets tonight, but what does it matter what a handful of people are saying. Was this loss a blow for us? It was in perception only but it will be fleeting just like or WVU win was fleeting or our win over #9 Xavier a few years back was fleeting or our trip to the conference tournament final was fleeting. Nobody but Robert Morris fans will talk about this in a matter of months and you have to string those fleeting moments together to rise. Bottom line, I'll keep looking at the bigger picture.
Here is the deal though, I won't just comfort myself by succombing to the self loathing, and bitternes. If I seriously thought things were as bad as you do, I would just quit and be done with it or put my money where my mouth is and withhold support until things change. I give you a lot of credit for not doing the former but it's up to you to decide whether or not you want to do the later. Not saying that's what you should do, but why would you feed the fire by continuing to give them your money or support if the problem is institutional? It would certainly have more of an impact than crapping on people with a different perspective than you on a messageboard that 100-150 people read.
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Love this tweet:
John Steigerwald@Steigerworld5hMaybe RMU should follow Duquesne's lead and fire the coach.
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Anthony Boerio@coachanthony796h@_JoshTaylor_ Duquesne still has a basketball team?
Sam Fatula@samueljfatula7hKentucky losing to Robert Morris just shows how quickly a team can rise or fall, too bad Duquesne just sucks all the same every year
Michael DeCourcy@tsnmike9h“@keithRmcbride: @aprince27 RMU has beaten Duquesne in last 3 meetings…” They've been better for years. Wasn't the question
John C@JohnCPgh7h@GoDuquesne When is Greg Amodio going to be fired for the #mess that is Duquesne athletics?
Tyler Fircak@TheBigCat125h@SweeTnLoUU haha this Duquesne might be the worst program in the country. RMU beat them by 22!!!!!!!!!!! DUQ won 1 game in 2013 hahah
Yukudukes@StevefromYukuDU8hThinking a little more on this, it does piss piss me off that Duquesne never wins games when people are actually looking.
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CLK wrote:
Love this tweet:
John Steigerwald@Steigerworld5hMaybe RMU should follow Duquesne's lead and fire the coach.
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Anthony Boerio@coachanthony796h@_JoshTaylor_ Duquesne still has a basketball team?
Do you think Amodio is a huge liability for Charlie & the University?
Sam Fatula@samueljfatula7hKentucky losing to Robert Morris just shows how quickly a team can rise or fall, too bad Duquesne just sucks all the same every year
Michael DeCourcy@tsnmike9h“@keithRmcbride: @aprince27 RMU has beaten Duquesne in last 3 meetings…” They've been better for years. Wasn't the question
John C@JohnCPgh7h@GoDuquesne When is Greg Amodio going to be fired for the #mess that is Duquesne athletics?
Tyler Fircak@TheBigCat125h@SweeTnLoUU haha this Duquesne might be the worst program in the country. RMU beat them by 22!!!!!!!!!!! DUQ won 1 game in 2013 hahah
Yukudukes@StevefromYukuDU8hThinking a little more on this, it does piss piss me off that Duquesne never wins games when people are actually looking.
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I agree. Amodio is the wedge that has fractured the DU fan base. He fired the most successful coach at DU in 35-years. Last night put a big spotlight on RMU and their AD. What their AD has accomplished at that school with a heck of a lot less resources is amazing (did you see all the banners hanging in their gym). Yet after 7 or 8 years that Amodio has been at DU with increased funding, better tv exposue, better conference, & better facilities he has nothing to show for it in any sport in the way of NCAA appearances. Moreover, I do not understand how any DU fan does not feel disgusted or at the very least embarrassed over the comments all over Twitter & Facebook by Pittsburgh Sports Fans (not just disgruntled DU fans) on how Robert Morris has eclpised Duquesne, and how DU basketball is a joke. We are back to were we were when Amodio was hired, a laughingstock of college basketball, and after 35 years I am sick and tired of hearing people preach patience. I have nothing against Jim Ferry, and he may turn out to be a good hire if he can recruit exceptionally well, but who knows how long it will take him to win. Ferry did not have a winning record in 7 of his first 8 years at LIU and did not make the NCAA until his 9th year. Ron won in his second year and every other year except his first. Who know what he could have done given 9 years? I do not want to turn this into a Ron vs Ferry comment. I want Ferry to win at DU. This is about the AD. People want to give him one more year fine, I'll hang in there one more year. But if we do not see a winning season next year to give me some real hope and Amodio remains as AD then I will be done, and the perpetual sunshine boys can continue to sing the sun will come out tomorrow!
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This isn't the only board where people are complaining though. From the Pitt board:
Robert Morris' win... .Is the type of win that Pitt almost never has, I mean playing over their heads, and defeating a far superior opponent on national TV.
Pitt is almost always a victim of such games- losing to a lesser seed an making their season, almost never the team that rises up and beats the superior squad.
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We've been looking forward to that day for thrity years and what's funny is now we are saying Robert Morris where we used to say Pitt in that very thought!
We have one of the absoulute worst programs top to bottom ine very sport of any division I university anywhere (one lone bright spot Coach McConnell Serio I am so sorry your fine ladies were screwed over for an 18-11 Kansas team in part because "Hey they're Kansas, who the f**k is Duquesne?).
We are garbage!
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