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1/05/2018 6:01 pm  #1


Game Thread: @ Fordham

For those of us who have raised our expectations, this is a key game. To be a mid level team (8 to 10 wins), we have to beat mid level teams and lower, at home, and beat weak teams on the road. We have started well with regard to the first part, but we need this road win tomorrow. If we can't beat Fordham on the road, who will we beat there? Beat Fordham, and then you can start thinking about beating SLU, and St. Joe's.

 

1/05/2018 6:40 pm  #2


Re: Game Thread: @ Fordham

3:30pm EST tip on Saturday 01/06/2017 at Rose Hill Gym, Bronx, NY
Per KenPom:
Dukes #189 (11-4; 2-0) vs Fordham #226 (6-8; 1-1)
Fordham projected to finish 14th (6-12) in the 14 team Atlantic 10 Conference
Game prediction: Dukes lose by 2, 64-62 - Dukes with 46% probability of a win.
Betting line: Dukes are 1½ point underdogs; Over/Under 131½
Duquesne 4-3 Against the Spread: Fordham 3-6-1 ATS

Fordham Best Win(s): Manhattan (201)
Fordham Worst Loss(es): Miami OH (259)

Four Factors ==> Effective field goal percentage; Turnover percentage; Offensive rebounding percentage; Free throw rate
Top 100 ranking noted as a strength; Bottom 100 ranking as a weakness
Here's a look at Fordham:
Offensive Strength:  None
Offensive Weakness:  Effective FG%, Offensive Rebounds, Getting to FT Line
Defensive Strength:  Creates Turnovers
Defensive Weakness:  Allows Offensive Rebounds

Here's a look at the Dukes (national ranking out of 351 teams):
Offensive Strength:  Getting to the FT Line (59); Limit Turnovers (47): Offensive Rebounds (23)
Offensive Weakness:  None
Defensive Strength:  Effective FG% (45), Limits FT Chances (99)
Defensive Weakness:  None

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1/05/2018 7:25 pm  #3


Re: Game Thread: @ Fordham

all things considered I'm surprised Vegas has us as dogs here, even on the road.

anybody know a good place that will play CBS SN tomorrow ?


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1/05/2018 7:34 pm  #4


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yak-rbc wrote:

all things considered I'm surprised Vegas has us as dogs here, even on the road.

anybody know a good place that will play CBS SN tomorrow ?

I thought I saw someone on Twitter saying something about a viewing party but can’t locate the tweet

 

1/05/2018 7:34 pm  #5


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Dukes had a taste of the 1-3-1 zone vs GW and now a steady dose of it vs Fordham. Just need to take care of the ball.
I think the defense matches up well statistically.  They shoot a ton from deep and they aren't good at all at it. I do feel teams that spread us out like San Francisco but more so Cornell and pitt gave us some major issues, so hopefully we don't see a lot of back cuts beating our guys for easy lay-ins.

 

1/05/2018 8:09 pm  #6


Re: Game Thread: @ Fordham

Looks like another slobberknocker. Teams shooting 45% from the 2 against them but only 31% from the 3. They shoot 28% from the 3 but have 3 guys hitting at 37%. Duo of Tavares and Chartouny having really good seasons. Chartouny gets almost 4 steals per game.

 

1/06/2018 1:29 am  #7


Re: Game Thread: @ Fordham

duqkurt wrote:

yak-rbc wrote:

all things considered I'm surprised Vegas has us as dogs here, even on the road.

anybody know a good place that will play CBS SN tomorrow ?

I thought I saw someone on Twitter saying something about a viewing party but can’t locate the tweet

Archie's on SouthSide is having a watch party


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1/06/2018 9:06 am  #8


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Line down to 1½ underdogs with O/U at 133½ as of 9:00am.

https://sportschatplace.com/college-basketball-picks/2018/01/06/fordham-vs-duquesne-1/6/18-college-basketball-pick-odds-and-prediction

Edit of o/u

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1/06/2018 9:29 am  #9


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Odds Shark betting line game final score predictor format has the Dukes winning by a score of 70-64.  This, despite most betting lines giving the Dukes 1.5 points with an O/U of 133.5  Go figure!!

 

1/06/2018 10:43 am  #10


Re: Game Thread: @ Fordham

Fordham will score 59. Can we score 60?

 

1/06/2018 10:44 am  #11


Re: Game Thread: @ Fordham

From what I see from the ranking formulas like the Power Rankings on the Real Time RPI site, the systems don't know how to compute the lack of a Duquesne road record even though they have a much higher rating (126 to 217 currently over Fordham).

Fordham' home record is highlighted as a favorable advantage over the Dukes as is Duquesne's road record as winless- techically they are. 

Power Ranking data page is here -
http://realtimerpi.com/cgi-bin/rpi/scouting?team1=111&team2=112&gender=1&home=at&date=01-06

It's unheard of to not play away until this late but KD probably needed time before he set the challenge.  The guy thinks way ahead of the rest of us!

Last edited by coffee (1/06/2018 10:50 am)


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1/06/2018 10:53 am  #12


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ElDuque wrote:

Fordham will score 59. Can we score 60?

 
I'll agree with your Fordham prediction of 59...

Dukes get 68.

Last edited by coffee (1/06/2018 10:55 am)


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1/06/2018 11:05 am  #13


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coffee wrote:

From what I see from the ranking formulas like the Power Rankings on the Real Time RPI site, the systems don't know how to compute the lack of a Duquesne road record even though they have a much higher rating (126 to 217 currently over Fordham).

Fordham' home record is highlighted as a favorable advantage over the Dukes as is Duquesne's road record as winless- techically they are.

Power Ranking data page is here -
http://realtimerpi.com/cgi-bin/rpi/scouting?team1=111&team2=112&gender=1&home=at&date=01-06

It's unheard of to not play away until this late but KD probably needed time before he set the challenge. The guy thinks way ahead of the rest of us!

​Yeah I had a hunch that "No road record at all" thing was going to mess the statistical analysis.  So, just saying if we win today, our RPI should go up a decent chunk?
 


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1/06/2018 11:22 am  #14


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Tejas_Duke wrote:

coffee wrote:

From what I see from the ranking formulas like the Power Rankings on the Real Time RPI site, the systems don't know how to compute the lack of a Duquesne road record even though they have a much higher rating (126 to 217 currently over Fordham).

Fordham' home record is highlighted as a favorable advantage over the Dukes as is Duquesne's road record as winless- techically they are.

Power Ranking data page is here -
http://realtimerpi.com/cgi-bin/rpi/scouting?team1=111&team2=112&gender=1&home=at&date=01-06

It's unheard of to not play away until this late but KD probably needed time before he set the challenge. The guy thinks way ahead of the rest of us!

​Yeah I had a hunch that "No road record at all" thing was going to mess the statistical analysis.  So, just saying if we win today, our RPI should go up a decent chunk?
 

 

Unfortunately, I don't think that the Regular RPI will be influenced by the new road record alone.  However, the RPI Power Rankings should since the power rankings were developed as a "predictor" when so many complained that the traditional RPI traditional formula was not as accurate as other services.

"RPI" for Dukes is only 224 and punished our weak schedule inordinately.
"RPI Power Rankings" put us at a much higher 126.

See- http://realtimerpi.com/ncaab/college_Men_basketball_atl10.html

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1/06/2018 11:47 am  #15


Re: Game Thread: @ Fordham

Mike Lewis is due for a big day. I'd like to see him go on one of his tears in the first half and give us an early lead. The Dukes have played well with the lead this year.

 

1/06/2018 11:48 am  #16


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I'm predicting a Krivacevic sighting today. Look's like Fordham has a couple of Euro's. Maybe our Euro get's a couple of minutes.

 

1/06/2018 11:58 am  #17


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Thought for a minute I tuned into a business site there, WashPaRick. 

 

1/06/2018 12:07 pm  #18


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Live rpi has our expected record up to 17-14.
http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/Duquesne.html

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1/06/2018 12:09 pm  #19


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Excited to watch the team on tv today! Hoping to see the defensive intensity and effort come with us on the road. Looking to see the experienced guards lead the team offensively and is to play tough under the basket on both sides of the ball. Want to see Lewis and Williams have another big day.

Should be a win if we can continue together do what we've been doing.

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1/06/2018 12:31 pm  #20


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ElDuque wrote:

Thought for a minute I tuned into a business site there, WashPaRick. 

You are. Winning is our business, and business is good


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1/06/2018 12:33 pm  #21


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Good analysis/prediction -  https://sportschatplace.com/college-basketball-picks/2018/01/06/fordham-vs-duquesne-1/6/18-college-basketball-pick-odds-and-prediction

Dukes to win outright... can't imagine why the Rams are even favored.

😉

Last edited by coffee (1/06/2018 12:34 pm)


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1/06/2018 1:09 pm  #22


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coffee wrote:

Good analysis/prediction -  https://sportschatplace.com/college-basketball-picks/2018/01/06/fordham-vs-duquesne-1/6/18-college-basketball-pick-odds-and-prediction

Dukes to win outright... can't imagine why the Rams are even favored.

😉

Home teams are 13-1 in the A10 so far

 

1/06/2018 1:21 pm  #23


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https://twitter.com/pghsportsnow/status/949362844281331718

For those looking for where to watch game

 

1/06/2018 2:17 pm  #24


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3:30 can't get here soon enough

 

1/06/2018 3:51 pm  #25


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rosceaux wrote:

3:30 can't get here soon enough

SLO start Brown and Taylor with 2 fouls this game could be ugly


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