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1/14/2022 2:07 pm  #1


Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

12:30pm EST tip on Saturday 01/15/2022 at the UPMC Cooper Fieldhouse, Pittsburgh, PA
Per KenPom:
Dukes #182 (6-8; 1-1 A-10) vs Dayton Flyers #94 (10-6; 2-1 A-10)
Game prediction: Dukes lose by 3, 69-66 - Dukes with 39% probability of a win.
Betting line: Dukes are 3½ point underdogs; Over/Under 134½
Duquesne 6-8 Against the Spread: Dayton 10-6 ATS

Dukes Best Win(s): UC Irvine (111); Bradley (123); UMass (148)
Dukes Worst Loss(es): Northeastern (214); Marshall (185); Fordham (183)
Dayton Best Win(s): Kansas (10); Virginia Tech (31); Belmont (42)
Dayton Worst Loss(es): Austin Peay (306); Lipscomb (265); UMass Lowell (245)

Four Factors ==> Effective field goal percentage; Turnover percentage; Offensive rebounding percentage; Free throw rate (shown below if team has Top 100 ranking overall or top 4 in conference as a strength; if team has Bottom 100 ranking or bottom 4 in conference as a weakness)

Here's a look at Dayton for the season (national ranking out of 358 teams):
Offensive Strength: Effective FG % (39); FT Rate (41); Offensive Rebound % (46)  
Offensive Weakness: Turnover % (328)
Defensive Strength: FT Rate (47); Offensive Rebound % (62)
Defensive Weakness: None

Here's a look at Dayton in the A-10 (conference ranking out of 14 teams):
Offensive Strength:  Effective FG % (2); FT Rate (2); Offensive Rebound % (3)
Offensive Weakness:  Turnover % (12)
Defensive Strength:  Effective FG % (2); FT Rate (3); Turnover % (3)
Defensive Weakness:  None

Here's a look at the Dukes for the season (national ranking out of 358 teams):
Offensive Strength: Turnover % (38); Offensive Rebound % (62)
Offensive Weakness: FT Rate (309)
Defensive Strength: FT Rate (38)
Defensive Weakness: Effective FG % (274)

Here's a look at the Dukes in the A-10 (conference ranking out of 14 teams):
Offensive Strength:  None
Offensive Weakness:  FT Rate (13)
Defensive Strength:  None
Defensive Weakness:  None

Points per Possession and Number of Possessions
Dayton Adj Offense Efficiency - 107.3; 100 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Defense Efficiency - 104.9; 201 in D-1
Dayton Adj Defense Efficiency - 99.1; 87 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Offense Efficiency - 103.5; 180 in D-1
Dayton Adj Tempo - 65.1; 323 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Tempo - 67.1; 259 in D-1

Miscellaneous
Experience - Dayton 0.35 yrs; 358 in D-1; Dukes 0.78 yrs; 354 in D-1
Average Height - Dayton 77.9"; 54 in D-1; Dukes 77.1"; 142 in D-1


Haslametrics = has the Dukes as 190th in the country.
Dayton is 80th in the country.
Automated Game Preview:  https://haslametrics.com/preview.php?yr=&tid2=4391&tid1=4359&neut=0
Overall Ratings:  http://haslametrics.com/ratings.php

 

1/14/2022 2:17 pm  #2


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

This game is also televised. I hope we are competitive at worst and win at best. Will be interested to see if the students come out.

 

1/14/2022 3:57 pm  #3


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Dayton is a young team, younger than DU.
Dayton has had some nice wins--Kansas, Virg Tech
and some awful losses--Austin Peay and LIpscomb which'
is typical of young teams.
They appear to turn over the ball.
DU is a 3 1/2 point underdog which better than I expected.
A possible win if DU can play hard for a 40 minutes.

 

1/14/2022 6:44 pm  #4


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Dayton is very young, but has  higher rated players; deeper, stronger, etc. better pedigree and has beaten, Kansas and VA Tech.  To qualify those "big" wins keep in mind that Kansas is nowhere near the team they were in previous years.  I've seen Kansas twice and its surprising how little paint-presence they possess this year.  Maybe the "pay for play" scandal has made it more difficult to Bill Self to drop big sums of cash in the laps of recruits.  They really have no inside game, so like many lower-rated teams they live and die by the three.  Consequently, the Dayton win is a probably a bit over-rated.  Virginia Tech is a seven-loss team, and has lost to every decent team they've played with the exception of Maryland who is really down this season, and St. Bonaventure who must have played its worst game in several years.  So I think the Dukes will come out and play hard, and make it an interesting game; but as we have seen, but it remains to be seen when they learn to close out games.

 

1/14/2022 8:00 pm  #5


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

On a different note… VCU AT BONNIES on ESPN 2 right now. 7:30–9:30 PM.

 

1/15/2022 8:43 am  #6


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Bonnie’s won that one by 20; but the better A-10 game last night was Davidson winning at Richmond, 87-84!  After a so-so start Davidson is rolling! Great coaching and recruiting to a system seems to work well for Davidson.  That’s why I sung the praises of Ryan Odom several years ago at UMBC.  He has a system and gets guys who can play it.  He is now working at Utah State; so he’s already moved up; but who knows; before he beat UVA in the NCAA he might have listened if Duquesne through a bunch of money and promises at him at UMBC.

 

1/15/2022 12:26 pm  #7


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Rotroff not dressed. Injured.

     Thread Starter
 

1/15/2022 12:38 pm  #8


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

I don;t see this on ESPN+. Where is it?

 

1/15/2022 12:45 pm  #9


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

applecorps wrote:

I don;t see this on ESPN+. Where is it?

Think national game on USA Network.

     Thread Starter
 

1/15/2022 12:53 pm  #10


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

They are so much better than us, its like college v high school.

 

1/15/2022 12:54 pm  #11


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Rough start!!

 

1/15/2022 1:16 pm  #12


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Dayton is a big time program. Looks like a total mismatch.
Maybe a better second half.

 

1/15/2022 1:27 pm  #13


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Dambrot did not call any time outs in the first half. I guess he could not hear me shouting at my TV

 

1/15/2022 1:38 pm  #14


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Deron Holmes !!!!!! Only good thing about him is that he will be in the NBA next year.

 

1/15/2022 1:39 pm  #15


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They dont miss much.

 

1/15/2022 1:39 pm  #16


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Sitting here at game… More Dayton folks than DU. Maybe one day we will have a coach who can recruit really good players who can win games.
What an embarrassing showing so far.

 

1/15/2022 1:42 pm  #17


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Deron Holmes !!!!!! Only good thing about him is that he will be in the NBA next year.

 

1/15/2022 1:54 pm  #18


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Great job.   Embarrassed on national tv.   Clear the bench.

Announcer just says Dayton 6’8”, 9”, 10” on the court at same time.   I got more depressed.

Last edited by townsonkid (1/15/2022 2:12 pm)

 

1/15/2022 2:03 pm  #19


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

We need a rim protector.  When Austin Peay beat Dayton earlier this year , they used their 6-11, 270LB freshman center (who was a 4 star recruit from Connecticut).  He had 14 rebounds and 25 points.  Why can't we attract players like that?  I don't want another point guard or undersized forward. 

 

1/15/2022 2:05 pm  #20


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Hima needs to play the remainder of this game.

AND the offense sucks! We have good offensive weapons & no functioning system.

 

1/15/2022 2:12 pm  #21


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Back to the drawing…er, water board .

 

1/15/2022 2:14 pm  #22


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Over/under on KD speaking to radio team after this one?

 

1/15/2022 2:19 pm  #23


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

So much for being a "tough out"

 

1/15/2022 2:23 pm  #24


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

Amen FAM and INDY, you guys said it all.

 

1/15/2022 2:26 pm  #25


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (H)

PhoenixRising2 wrote:

Rotroff not dressed. Injured.

Tough break for Rotroff. Hima has a great opportunity to get some floor time. This team needs height & a rim protector. Disappointed in the lack of progress by Okani. This kid has physical & athletic abilities. Oh well burn the tape.

 

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