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1/05/2024 9:37 pm  #1


Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

4:00pm EST tip on Saturday 1/6/2024 at the Gentile Arena, Chicago, IL

Betting line: Dukes are 1½ point underdogs; Over/Under 142
Duquesne 4-8 Against the Spread: Loyola Chicago 5-8 ATS

NET Ranking:  Dukes 85; Loyola Chicago 145

Per KenPom (362 D-1 Teams):
Dukes #101 (9-4; 0-1 A10) vs Loyola Chicago #125 (9-5; 1-0 A10)
Game prediction: Dukes lose by 1, 72-71 - Dukes with 47% probability of a win.
https://kenpom.com/gameprep.php?g=2710 
Per Haslametrics:
Dukes #113 vs Loyola Chicago #149
Game prediction:  Dukes lose by 1, 70.30-70.08
https://haslametrics.com/preview.php?yr=&tid1=4391&tid2=4723&neut=0
Per BartTorvik:
Dukes #90 vs Loyola Chicago #117
Game prediction:  Dukes lose by 2, 72-70 - Dukes with a 44% probability of a win.
https://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Duquesne&year=2024 
Duquesne Preview: https://goduquesne.com/news/2024/1/5/mens-basketball-preview-duquesne-at-loyola-chicago.aspx Duquesne Game Notes: https://goduquesne.com/documents/2024/1/5/14_Loyola_Chicago.pdf Loyola Chicago Game Notes: https://loyolaramblers.com/news/2024/1/5/mens-basketball-ramblers-take-on-dukes-in-a10-home-opener.aspx
Sports Reference College Basketball Team Pages:
Duquesne:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/duquesne/men/2024.html Loyola Chicago: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/loyola-il/men/2024.html 
Dukes KenPom Best Wins: UC Irvine (74); College of Charleston (112); Bradley (115); Cleveland St. (170)   
Dukes KenPom Worst Losses: Santa Clara (116); UMass (98); Princeton (57); Nebraska (49) 
Loyola Chicago KenPom Best Wins: Boston College (91); Harvard (190); Saint Louis (202); New Orleans (299) 
Loyola Chicago KenPom Worst Losses: Tulsa (168); Illinois Chicago (161); South Florida (142)

Shooting Percentage Offense/Defense (per KenPom)
Dukes 3 Point:  Offense 34.3%, 133 in D-1; Defense 35.3%, 273 in D-1
Loyola Chicago 3 Point:  Offense 35.0%, 108 in D-1; Defense 35.3%, 275 in D-1
Dukes 2 Point:  Offense 50.3%, 177 in D-1; Defense 46.9%, 74 in D-1
Loyola Chicago 2 Point:  Offense 53.2%, 84 in D-1; Defense 42.6%, 9 in D-1
Dukes FT:  Offense 69.9%, 232 in D-1; Defense 70.6%, 165 in D-1
Loyola Chicago FT:  Offense 68.6%, 267 in D-1; Defense 69.4%, 105 in D-1

Points per Possession and Number of Possessions (per KenPom)
Loyola Chicago Adj Offense Efficiency - 104.1; 185 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Defense dEfficiency - 103.1; 146 in D-1
Loyola Chicago Adj Defense Efficiency - 100.5; 97 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Offense Efficiency - 110.2; 79 in D-1
Loyola Chicago Adj Tempo - 69.8; 167 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Tempo - 68.1; 242 in D-1

Miscellaneous (per KenPom)
Experience - Loyola Chicago 2.63 yrs; 37 in D-1; Dukes 2.76 yrs; 23 in D-1
Average Height - Loyola Chicago 76.8"; 239 in D-1; Dukes 76.2"; 321 in D-1

 

1/06/2024 12:35 am  #2


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Here is what they are posting about the Dukes on the Rambler's message board.  

Saturday, January 6, 2024 3:00 p.m.
Gentile Arena, Chicago, Ill.

The Ramblers are seeking their first four-game winning streak since January 2022 when the Duquesne Dukes come to Gentile Arena Saturday afternoon. The Ramblers are coming off a gutsy 80-73 win over Saint Louis on the road, boosting their record to 9-5 and their KenPom ranking to 125. Duquesne lost their conference season opener at UMass Wednesday night, 80-61.

The Ramblers and Dukes have been playing each other since 1929, with the Dukes holding a 12-6 lead in the all-time series. Last year Duquesne beat the Ramblers 72-58 after coming back from a 40-31 Loyola lead at halftime. Four Dukes scored in double figures in that game, while Loyola’s Phil Alston led all scorers with 25 points. No other Rambler had more than 7 points and Loyola committed 18 turnovers and 19 fouls.

Dukes Coach Keith Dambrot is in his seventh season in Pittsburgh, and has already notched twice as many .500 or above conference seasons in his six completed campaigns as in the previous 21 seasons at Duquesne. The Dukes were picked to finish fourth in this year’s preseason poll, and come into the game in Rogers Park with a 9-4 record and a KenPom at 101.

The probable starters for Duquesne are 6’2” senior guard Dae Dae Grant, 6’3” senior guard Jimmy Clark III, 5’9” sophomore point guard Kareem Rozier, 6’7” senior forward Fousseyni Drame, and 6’9” sophomore forward David Dixon. Grant played his first two seasons at Miami OH, and then exploded as an offensive force last year at Duquesne. Grant leads the A-10 in scoring at 19.0 ppg, and adds 3.5 rebounds, and 2.1 assists on average. One of the best there is in the league at getting to the free throw line, Grant knocks them down at a conference best 93.9%.

Clark was a preseason second team selection, and also made the all-defensive team. His first two years were at VCU. This season, he’s averaging 16.5 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 3.8 apg, and leads the league in steals at 2.3 per game. Rozier has improved his shooting as a sophomore, averaging 7.1 points, 2.0 rebounds, and 2.3 assists; he’s shooting 44.9% on three-point shots and plays the second-most minutes on the team.

The starting frontcourt players are both new to the team. Drame is a grad senior transfer coming over from La Salle. He averages 7.2 points and 6.2 rebounds. He’s more opportunistic on offense than a focal point—his scoring has declined lately, with only 14 points scored in his last four games. The other starting big man is Dixon, who averages 5.3 points and 3.9 rebounds.

The top bench player is actually the third leading scorer, Andrei Savrasov, a 6’7” grad transfer from Georgia Southern, originally from Russia. Savrasov averages 8.1 ppg playing 20 minutes off the bench. Hassan Drame (Fousseyni Drame’s twin brother) is a 6’7” forward averaging 3.4 points and 3.2 rebounds. Niles Notre Dame product Dusan Mahorcic just became eligible in the 2nd semester and previously played at Illinois State, Utah, and NC State (you get to do that, I guess, when you’re 6’10”). Mahorcic averages 6.3 points. Six-nine sophomore forward Halil Barre (2.8 points, 2.9 rebounds) and 6’8” forward Jakub Necas also get playing time.

Duquesne’s guards are really fantastic. Grant and Clark are probably both on the list of the top five guards in the A-10, with Grant maybe the best scoring guard in the conference and Clark the best defender at guard (who also happens to score 16+ points per game). Rozier is a dynamic point guard who gives the Dukes a great outside shot and a speedy complement to the other two backcourt players. But it falls off drastically after that, and if a team can somehow make one or more of the guards sit for longer (as UMass was able to do in their game Wednesday), it will behoove the opposition to do so.

Duquesne’s backcourt isn’t as inept as most think. They are serviceable and experienced, and they’ve got a stockpile of big bodies who concentrate on rebounding and getting in the way of opposing teams’ big men and drives to the hoop. That’s all they worry about—the guards do 70% of the scoring. And they’ve got roughly 25 fouls to play with before the stockpile of bodies thins out.

The big things to watch out for against Duquesne—keep them off the free throw line, where they’re had three games with 31 or more trips to the line and only three games with fewer than 17. Second, keeping their three-point attempts down helps to keep their made threes down—UMass, Princeton, and Nebraska kept their made threes to 6, 7, and 8 respectively. They’re not a great percentage shooting team from three, so if you keep their attempts down it helps. And finally, get some points at the line—in their losses to Santa Clara, Nebraska, and UMass, the opposition got a combined 94 trips to the free throw line (average of 31.3) and they scored an average of 24.3 points from the line. And in their six games so far away from home (road and neutral), their opponents have had 160 trips to the line for an average of 26.7 attempts per game. Use their aggressiveness against them and get to the line and sink those freebies.

 

1/06/2024 9:25 am  #3


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Betting line now has the Dukes as 1½ point favorites with the O/U at 142½.

     Thread Starter
 

1/06/2024 10:32 am  #4


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

PhoenixRising2 wrote:

Betting line now has the Dukes as 1½ point favorites with the O/U at 142½.

Win today and the Dukes season will still be on tract. Go Dukes.

 

1/06/2024 11:12 am  #5


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

I think the 'Kes will bounce back today and beat the 'Blers.

 

1/06/2024 1:22 pm  #6


     Thread Starter
 

1/06/2024 3:52 pm  #7


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Starting 5:

Rozier
Grant
Clark
Savrasov
Barre

LETS DO THIS!

 

1/06/2024 4:36 pm  #8


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Kareem came to play today.

 

1/06/2024 5:01 pm  #9


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

12 turnovers is way too much. Also of note: no Mahorcic this half

 

1/06/2024 5:02 pm  #10


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Ok, play SOME  D in the 2nd half and win this.   
Nice to see Dave scoring and moving well on O.

 

1/06/2024 5:09 pm  #11


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

BluffHunter wrote:

12 turnovers is way too much. Also of note: no Mahorcic this half

No Tre Williams either

 

1/06/2024 5:53 pm  #12


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

How does Dixon commit a foul while laying on his back?

 

1/06/2024 6:00 pm  #13


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

We are getting great looks. Need to make open shots/layups. Dixon and Dimichele have been great. Need our experienced leaders to step up down the stretch!

 

1/06/2024 6:01 pm  #14


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Please tell me Dusan is injured. How many back downs for layups?

 

1/06/2024 6:05 pm  #15


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Doesn’t look good. Couldn’t hold a lead. What’s the problem here sports fans. Our chance of getting an at large bid to the NCAA just tanked. Now hoping we win the A10 or get an NIT bid as we continue.

 

1/06/2024 6:06 pm  #16


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Our best players are killing us right now. Simplify!

 

1/06/2024 6:18 pm  #17


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Wow, that was hard to watch.  So many awful possessions with terrible decisions and ugly shots.   Its only going to get worse.   I wouldnt be surprised to see a total collapse.  Like a 4-14 a10 record.  Really sad to see that product in January.

 

1/06/2024 6:19 pm  #18


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Such a frustrating last two games. Both could have easily been won with better play.  We look sloppy and without any real rhythm as a team. Hope this season gets better but I’m losing hope.

 

1/06/2024 6:21 pm  #19


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Positives: Jake Dimichele can definitely contribute some good minutes moving forward. Dixon continues to impact the game, just wish he would have figured out that the big fella for Loyola can only go right. You could see our coaching staff constantly reminding him. Our best players will not have games like that too often.

Negatives: where has Savrasov gone? Where have the Drame twins gone? What happened to Tre Williams? Our lack of one four man stepping up in that game killed us. I’m sure we will right the ship, but there are no easy games in the A10.

When things aren’t going well for you individually, less is more. Too many guys are trying to force their way out of their struggles. Charmin ultra; less is more!

 

1/06/2024 6:36 pm  #20


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

WTF was that???!!!!....Soon to be 0-3 in the A-10..... simply unbelievable....,

 

1/07/2024 3:57 pm  #21


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

Not really unexpected with two road games to start the A-10 schedule.  They could overcome those two loses, but the larger issue is the lackluster performances on both ends of the court.  The team looks like it has the same set of weaknesses as last year.  Poor shot selection and no flow on offense.  Defense   Is  “Deja vu”.  Poor transition defense, trouble controlling drives to the hoop, poor interior defense, give up high percentage shots, no ability to change defenses, very predictable outcome once the opposition finds the matchups that they can exploit.  Things never change.

 

1/07/2024 5:30 pm  #22


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

When your best offensive weapons are firing blanks, it's not going to go well. Taking and making good shots can cover for some defensive lapses. Turnovers and forced shots on offense proved deadly yesterday.

 

1/07/2024 7:30 pm  #23


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

applecorps wrote:

When your best offensive weapons are firing blanks, it's not going to go well. Taking and making good shots can cover for some defensive lapses. Turnovers and forced shots on offense proved deadly yesterday.

When a coach knows nothing else but to only give the green light to Dae Dae and Clark, then expect a loss. Every team going forward will, by game films, press the in-bounds to milk the clock because Dae Dae and Clark will waste 10 seconds walking the ball down the court, ( just plain stupid)  Instead of sprinting down the court, leaving defenders behind them and, for that moment, have numbers to the hoop. Just beat the crap out of the next opponent with that, and no one will mess with you again. But KD will continue this mess all year, because he just doesn't know. This is as bad as watching Ferry's teams roll the ball to mid-court with no resistance from our defense.

 

1/07/2024 11:00 pm  #24


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

I questioned this team’s roster construction from the beginning.  It has too many guys trying to compete for the forward positions while there is little depth at guard, and only one point guard, who gives his all, but can be a liability on defense due to his size.

 

1/08/2024 3:56 pm  #25


Re: Game Thread - Loyola University Chicago Ramblers

As Yogi Berra once said: "It's Deja Vu all over again." Optimism in October and November crashing to realization in January. I'm starting to think that my beloved campus was built on a Native American burial ground. Napa and Levon hit the nail on the head.  At least I can still hold onto my memories of the Nelsons, Jarrett. Mike Barr, Mickey Davis and Jack Wodjowski. Haven't seen a better Dukes team in 52 years. Now that's truly amazing!


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