Anyone making the trip to nowhere?  Take along anything you want welded.  I hear they do a good job up there.

Kinda hard to get the numbers on the scoreboard to move if you can't put the ball in the basket.

Good job. Why would you put DC at line with game on line? Will Ferry never learn???

St. Louis just missrd 3 of 4 fts at end of game to let it go to ot.

Ferry perplexes the hell out of me. Gill and Ridenour were a big part of Saturday's win over URI. Tonight, Ridenour gets fewer minutes than White, who hasn't really done anything in weeks, and Gill gets three shots. Colter once again takes more shots than anyone else in a loss.

No surprise there.

The real development of a program is not based on a game you win but rather what you do the next game and the one after that. Saturday's win brings hope, Wednesday's brings you back down. Consistency decides whether a team has a winning record, has a chance for a postseason appearance, etc. This team lacks that. It's a talent problem, not ingame coaching. 

Bonnies fans have spirit and travel well. I heard that they even had the President of Duquesne stop by their get together when they played at Polumbo Center.  Duquesne has to develop a similar following.

Tony84 wrote:

I made the trip to Reilly center last night. I must say they have a great atmosphere there and a Homecourt advantage I dream of our Dukes having one day. I'm sure it's easier getting crowds to enthusiastically attend games when you are the main attraction for the Olean area, but Duquesne really needs to  bring some of that to Palumbo.  I have to beieve that a potential recruit for Bona is gonna be pretty impressed with a gameday visit there.  Let's find some way to similarly impress recruits at DU

 
That unfortunately is a pipe dream. In order to duplicate that atmosphere @ Palumbodo this would  require leadership vision competence remember the 11 game winning streak Amodio did nothing with the student body. Again Duquesne mens program viewed nationally as a joke. Coach Ferry will at best be able to recruit NEC players if he can coach them up then Duquesne best scenario middle of A-10.  Dayton @ the Consol will have more fans then Duquesne 4 hr drive that says it all about leadership.

duq81: Completely agree, we need a point guard. I have to attribute some of the other stuff to coaching; how do players go from being in the flow of the game one day to looking like they've never stepped on the court the next. And when I say it's coaching, it's more than in-game, although that is a problem as I've pointed out on several occasions. If talent is a problem, all you can says is that they're Ferry's guys. You bring 'em in, do something with 'em.

Kip McLane once made a great play in Olean -- he brought an icicle into the hotel room that was bigger than he was.  So, young recruit, if you like beautiful forests and icicles, ST. B, is the place for you.  If not --  and I remember Lionel B.  almost had a nervous breakdown in the widerness that is North Park -- give the Bluff a try.

duq81 wrote:

Keep in mind that those 20 win teams by Rice and RE were nice, but not comparable to Red's 20 win teams, because of the increase in number of games. Red's last 3 20 win teams lost 4,5 and 5 games, and all were ranked at some point. Winning percentage tells the story. Red's last winning team in 1973, won two thirds of their games. Only Rice's 20-10 team has matched that. Two whole generations have grown up seeing Duquesne ranging from mediocre, to terrible, and mediocre has been so rare that those teams are seen as good.

 
I am so aware of that increase of games and still hardly ever getting twenty, 69-70 was one of my favorite teams, it had size and talent, Red would win almost all the Arena games. That year he took the Dukes on the road to play Creighton with All America candidate Cryle Batiest (sp?)', a 6-10 post, Santa Clara and San Francisco and won every game. We may have been ranked as high as 4 or 5 at one time. A disappointing loss down at WVU in the NCAA to an Ivy League School ended us at 21-4' and the best returning player, Mickey Davis quit school before his senior to sit on the bench for the ABA Pgh Pippers. The mediocre years were just ahead. Cinny was Reds replacement and Al Bailey left since he thought he should have been offered the job and the Ohio and NYC recruiting dryed up. JC brought in Efrem Whitehead. And Mike James but I can't think of any talent the Dukes have had from that area. In the 1960s Duquesne was a well regarded school there since we recruited and played black kids, All America Si Green, Fletcher Johnson, etc, when most schools but some Cathelics were Lilly white. Old history but remember in the mid 1970's Duquesne was 5th in all time wining percentage of all Division 1 Colleges.

Phildog wrote:

duq81 wrote:

Keep in mind that those 20 win teams by Rice and RE were nice, but not comparable to Red's 20 win teams, because of the increase in number of games. Red's last 3 20 win teams lost 4,5 and 5 games, and all were ranked at some point. Winning percentage tells the story. Red's last winning team in 1973, won two thirds of their games. Only Rice's 20-10 team has matched that. Two whole generations have grown up seeing Duquesne ranging from mediocre, to terrible, and mediocre has been so rare that those teams are seen as good.

 
I am so aware of that increase of games and still hardly ever getting twenty, 69-70 was one of my favorite teams, it had size and talent, Red would win almost all the Arena games. That year he took the Dukes on the road to play Creighton with All America candidate Cryle Batiest (sp?)', a 6-10 post, Santa Clara and San Francisco and won every game. We may have been ranked as high as 4 or 5 at one time. A disappointing loss down at WVU in the NCAA to an Ivy League School ended us at 21-4' and the best returning player, Mickey Davis quit school before his senior to sit on the bench for the ABA Pgh Pippers. The mediocre years were just ahead. Cinny was Reds replacement and Al Bailey left since he thought he should have been offered the job and the Ohio and NYC recruiting dryed up. JC brought in Efrem Whitehead. And Mike James but I can't think of any talent the Dukes have had from that area. In the 1960s Duquesne was a well regarded school there since we recruited and played black kids, All America Si Green, Fletcher Johnson, etc, when most schools but some Cathelics were Lilly white. Old history but remember in the mid 1970's Duquesne was 5th in all time wining percentage of all Division 1 Colleges.

That was 70-71, not 69-70, and they finished 21-5. The 69 team had the 21-4 record. The 69-70 team was Billy Zoph's senior year. The Dukes started in the Top 10 after the great season in 69, but stumbled early, and ended up in the NIT. The Dukes were never in the Top 5 in 71. They started the season unranked, Had the awful loss to Pitt, which kept them from playing UCLA, and had to climb into the Top 20. The Ivy League team they lost to was the Penn Quakers, who swept the Big 5, and was undefeated, and led by Corky Calhoun. This is the team that reached the Eastern Regional Final at 28-0, only to be destroyed by a Villanova team that they had already beaten. 90-47 is the second most famous score in Philly college hoops history. That Villanova team, which Duquesne had beaten during the year, reached the Championship game, and gave UCLA really the only close game in the 10 Championship games they won under John Wooden, losing 68-62. This was the Howard Porter team.
The combination of Davis turning pro, and the loss of Ed Searcy, is what sunk Duquesne. With those two, I can't see us losing more than 1 or 2 games all year. I doubt that Red would have retired had things gone as planned.
I agree 100% about Al Bailey. I thought he was much more cut out to be a head coach in the late 70's into the 80's than Cinny was. Cinicola had paid his dues though, and they weren't going to jump over him. It was kind of a "Foge Fazio" type situation, and neither school has ever recovered from it.

Thinking about the 50's, Duquesne was in a position where they likely could have pulled an elite player out of NYC nearly every year after Sihugo Green established himself here, but they allowed a displeasure with being seen as a basketball school, along with complaints from some alums about too many black players, convince them to pull the reigns in, and mildly deemphasize hoops. Must be something in the water here, as Pitt did the same thing with it's football program twice. Both times, shortly after winning a National Championship.