ElDuque wrote:

Winters now Watkins. Hard to build a program when you keep losing good bricks.

I thought a healthy Watkins would be a pretty good player next year. Might have another addittion to this class.

Probably got frustrated with his lack of playing time. No one wants to sit the bench anymore.

One could argue that Watkins was our best recruit and the one Ferry could be most proud of.  Definitely stings.  Gill better be ready.  

Who says Duquesne can't get one-and-done players?

I wonder if Coach Ferry will be held to the same standard on player movement/transfers as the previous coach. How many is this now in the 2 years he has been here??

Westender wrote:

I wonder if Coach Ferry will be held to the same standard on player movement/transfers as the previous coach. How many is this now in the 2 years he has been here??

Well, seeing as how certain people have been bashing him since he got here, I have no doubt that he will get bashed for this too.
 

My point as well, Funny, wasn't not being able to hold onto players and constant transfers one of the knocks against the previous coach?

I am so sick of running in place against a brick wall.

This transfer is not akin to the Ron Everhart revolving door.  Ron over recruited then kicked off every freshman but the one which panned out. Then you guys wondered why we had 1 senior and 1 junior year after year. Turnover happens everywhere. Everhart was kicking guys off the team for new upside guys that never panne out. Big difference .

"I wonder if Coach Ferry will be held to the same standard on player movement/transfers as the previous coach. How many is this now in the 2 years he has been here??" Westender

Ya know Westender, I was thinking the exact same thing!   Here we go AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN

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J.D.McSwagger wrote:

ElDuque wrote:

The difference is Ferry's guys are leaving on their own. Spin that as being better if you can.

Duquesne basketball doesn't need fans like you. You think Everhart will return if you complain enough. He is gone. Get over yourself.

Is that you, Greg???  Tell me. How many transfers have there been in Ferry's 2 years here???

 

Sorry but I see a real difference in Watkins and others leaving along with how Ferry operates and the previous regime.  But I don't want to come across as bashing so I'm just leaving that statement stand without further explanation. I hope that this will prove itself over the next season or two.

ElDuque wrote:

It is different. What bothers me is not a guy leaving now and then because as Web points out it happens all the time. What bothers me is that Winters and Watkins came here with high expectations and now we won't get to see how they develop. The Ferry recipe is supposed to be finding four year players and developing them, and now two good ones have come and gone without making a significant mark.

 
I don't know if there is that big of a difference in player movement between Everhart and Ferry. I agree Ron recruited kids and then let them go, but in 2 years I count at least 5 players who have left under Ferry - 3 or 4 of whom appear to have been forced out. That's not much different in my eyes. The criticism of Everhart was that there was too much player turnover - there was no mention of the reasons for the turnover. Five players in 2 years seems like a lot to me and in terms of numbers no different than under Everhart. I just ask if the same standards will apply to Ferry as they did to Everhart in assessing coaching performance and behavior on this issue. I ask with "tongue in cheek" because I know they won't.