if i was kidding, i woulda started with : a rabbi, father hogan, and coach ferry walk into the souper bowl...

Unfortunately, this was pretty awful.
im sure the eternal pessimists will want amodia, ferry, et al taken down to milterberger st and executed.
the eternal optimists will tell you of the glory of njit hoops and how they are a top 25 caliber team.

i said i wasnt gonna get down when we only beat shippensburg by 2 and that i wasnt overly excited to see us crush bluefield st. On one of the prediction threads I also said by the end of the year we would be saying something like "how in the world did a team that beat vcu and dayton lose to njit?!?"
Its such a long season and alot can happen. Im not giving up yet, but this was pathetic.

El duque, stevens may take over colters spot as the guy that needs to stop shooting so much..
colter and mason were lights out, i think stevens was 6-19 or 20...

I still dont think all is well with mckoy situation...on all fronts.
robinson, hmm???

I stopped being embarrassed by Duquesne basketball along time ago.

I'm just sad at this ongoing sad state of affairs. 

I also think something is going on with McKoy as if it would matter if there wasn't. 

I'm logging out.  My Buckeyes win today so I'm happy about that.   Even though JT was hurt.

I was going to drive to Pittsburgh this Friday.  I don't know if I can anymore.  

if a "next level coach" making that kind of cheddar cant figure out the coach from NJIT(no disrespect to him or his team), then DU hoops is truly screwed.

While we probably arent ready to declare a warm or hot seat just yet(gotta let the season play out), you gotta wonder if they are starting to defrost the turkey or pre heat the oven for both amodio and ferry..
its always wait til next year. 
In ferrys first year, it was wait til next year when soko is eligible; then last year, it was wait til next year when robinson is eligible; now its gonna be "wait til next year when castro is eligible." 
no offense to the kid but he didnt exactly light the world on fire at butler.
You could argue that it was bc of a coaching change, styles, etc. But couldnt you also argue that some of REs recruits(jack and moore) could have had stellar careers on the bluff?!?  not meant to stir up that arugment again, just making a point..
 

Last edited by heelsdukesfan (11/29/2014 5:19 pm)

Let's step back a little from the ledge.  Yes this was an ugly loss but there is a lot of season left to play.  I do believe,however, that we need to be better than last year if we are going to make a run next year.  We will know in the next three weeks if we will be contender or a pretender.   

There's a long list of things we need to improve on after todays game. One that can be easily fixed i would think, is inbounding the ball. We had at least 3 to's and some other close calls on inbounds plays.

Not stressing yet, heres why... Remember last year when we lost to UNH in our second or third game? This team is much better than UNH(actually the same score as last year, BUT they hit 15 3's!!!).  We lost to RMU, Pitt, and PSU last year. This year, RMU is not very good, Pitt has not been playing typical Pitt basketball, and PSU looks like the same team as last year and the previous 4 years, they are all winnable games. My point is we were in the same position last year, dont hit the panic button yet. I think we can beat Pitt, RMU and PSU. Lastly, NJIT is not a bad team, there is a reason they lost by a few points to Marquette AT Marquette. I dont care if you play CCAC north, if you let a team make 12 3's and shoot 50% from 3, your not gonna win many of them, if any. Also dont forget this, the dukes dont play well against teams that run that damn princeton offense. We got smoked by richmond twice without their best player, this offense spreads you out, and thats what happened today.
 

I hear you heelsdukesfan. 

Steel City AJ welcome to the Board.  IMHO it is yet to be determined if we are a better team than last year.  It is hard to judge from the first three games.   So far this team looks very weak inside. Powell is a nice addition, but we really have no consistent post scoring, and our defense is horrible.  Like I said the next three weeks will tell us if NJIT is this year's UNH  or was the beginning of a long disappointing season.

Last edited by CLK (11/29/2014 8:07 pm)

Agreed, El Duque, regarding McKoy.  He had some surgery about 10 days ago and was a game time decision today.  I'm guessing that he didn't practice much during this time.  Yet he played 17 minutes and was our leading rebounder with 5; he also added a bit of spark to the team in the second half.

I also believe that it is way too early to make a judgment on Robinson and even Lewis.  With experience, the game will slow down for them.  Besides, they are not anywhere close to being one of our significant issues.

Our problem continues to be defense, a consistent theme throughout Jim Ferry's tenure here.  NJIT scored 58 points vs. St. John's (L), 48 points vs. Albany (L), 61 points vs. UMass-Lowell (L) and 57 points vs. Marquette (L).  They shred us for 84 (W) and in their other win vs. Maine, they scored 90.  It isn't like we were going up against an unstoppable force.

The defense that we are getting from our guards is atrocious.  There is not one in the bunch (Colter, Mason, Stevens, Ridenour, Jones) that can stop ball penetration, have enough speed to keep up with the cuts and close out on the 3 point shooters. And if JJ is our defensive specialist, we have some serious issues because he is at best average defensively, and adds little or nothing offensively.  And if you run Gill at the #3, he can't defend.

The 3 starting guards today for NJIT combined for 56 points.  Abilene Christian's 3 starting guards combined for 57 points. Even the 3 starting guards for Bluefield St. got us for 40.  I think I see a pattern.

We do not take our opponents out of their offensive comfort zone; they have no fear of our defense.  The players/guards aren't going to change over the next couple of years, so the coaching better get a whole lot better on the defensive end.  If it doesn't, another sub-500 year awaits, even with the watered down A-10.

Last edited by PhoenixRising2 (11/29/2014 9:30 pm)

At least some of the mindless optimism about the season goes away with this loss. It's a garbage team playing a weak schedule and even one more win than last year will have everyone crowing about how the program is moving forward. But what happens when the other garbage teams beat you? Ah, now that's a problem because Ferry has to talk about either how well an Independent Division I school played or how bad the Dukes played.

I change my prediction after three games. I thought they would finish near the bottom of the A-10. Now I think they willl finish at the bottom of the A-10. 

Last edited by rittersdiner (11/30/2014 7:49 am)

I'm pretty new to the board, as I'm from Cleveland and I follow a couple of local kids on the dukes roster. I'm going to say one thing everyone CALM DOWN. This is one game against an opponent who played lights out. The dukes did play bad and the perimeter defense was non existent, but to say the season is a wash is a little premature.  They are young and are going to have games like this. The true test will be how they bounce back. They have a game Tuesday against another "subpar" opponent and then Pitt. Hopefully they will handle business Tuesday and give Pitt a game

Neoprep welcome. Even if NJIT plays "lights out," all it ought to buy them in our building is a 15 point loss. No one is going overboard here; team played awful, Ferry got out coached, we lost. But if the bad defense and poor shot selection continue, we're in for a long season.