None. Absolutely no evidence.  If you can't beat an NEC team without there best player after 3 years, you can't coach. 

This is terrible to say but I'm going to root against them for the remainder or the year.  We are committed to hosting A10 and NCAA in the future.  The only way this can turn around is for Amodio to be fired.

It pains me to say this, but after the last few games I have to say "no."  I've seen some spark over the last few years. I was one of the few to find a silver lining in the Pitt loss last year. Remember, I only get to see about five games a year, where I live, unlike you seasonticket holders and the ones who get to see the games on local cable.  Last year I was impressed that we actually had some size and some degree of inside game against Pitt. It was nice seeing them be competitive until PItt's depth wore us out, as opposed to 90% of the recent Pitt games where their 7 footers just laugh at our 6' 6" power forwards.

1. Ferry is not a good "in game" coach and let's be honest, that can be the difference between 16 and 20 wins in a season, where your team is not Kentucky or Duke in terms of talent.  We need the coach who can win that game by drawing up the winning play in the last timeout, and he has not proven to be that.

2.  He makes poor personel decisions with the limited talent he does get.  In the spring of 13, all I heard on this board was "We got  ____ and _____" and then they almost never got to play and they transferred, all the while we saw Derek Coulter get 35 minutes a game, going 5 for 18 with 8 turnovers.  Ferry shows his players that apparently game performance has nothing to do with playing time.  Now, we don't watch practices, so we don't know what happens there, but still, to me the proof is in the lineups he runs out there.  Suck on the court and you still get the minutes!

I am just totally disgusted because now, it appears that no matter what happens, we are going to hit that 40 year streak in 17!  Ferry is obviously not going to get it done, and the next great rebuilding plan will be only geting started. We are not going to make the Big Dance before then, (Let's be honest, we will NEVER make the Tournament!) and that just breaks my heart!

I have nothing more.

CLK wrote:

Check this comment out from Ferry.


 

 
Holy cow, I thought these were the Danny Nee quotes before the door hit him where the good Lord split him. Is Ferry saying he's lost this team? That scares the crap out of me. PS, how come these words only get spoken here? How do other coaches manage to figure kids out?

Ferry must not count coach K among his friends I guess.

CLK wrote:

Check this comment out from Ferry.


 

CLK, I read this and it makes me think of the big Danny Nee article before he left.

Now as an aside, I can agree that helicopter parents are a BIG problem right now. That work ethic and all sorts of other issues exist these days with kids. Case in point - when a school board member went after the job of CV's Tim McConnell because his kid wasn't getting enough playing time. 

But reading it in this context, all I can think of is Danny Nee going "Old school... isn't working."

(EDIT: I just read further and saw that ED said the same thing... yeah, I'm with you.)

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Quote: Every coach we've hired has proclaimed that we will play an uptempo style that will lead recruits, and fans to our door. Meanwhile, Pitt plays an ugly grind it out style that doesn't attract recruits, but wins at a high level. I'd love to get a guy who came in and said "we're going to play smart, and defend at a high level".  Close Quote


That's a point that I have always questioned. Every coach since John Carroll has said the same thing, yet, it fails.  I would like to see a coach come in and put a new stamp on things and build a program by finding those gems in the rough and building a team based on teamwork and strong defense. It can be done!  John Cheney anyone? 
 

In my opinion , it is nothing about the "kids."   He was reaching to cover his own ass and Toole's speech was the nearest thing handy.

I think they hired the wrong coach, period.
St. Bona took Pitt to the wire at Pitt with a mediocre team.
FGCU come up from Ft Myers to Play Pitt next week.
They are in 10 year Div 1' third year eligible to go to NCAA, a real recruiting nightmare until 4 years ago.
Hired a Kanas Asst for 200m , is that close to Ferry pay range, they are 8-1 losing only to Wisconsin-Milwalki

Will got to NCAA this year, was Sweet 16 2years ago.
And play in Atlantic Sun, not a Mecca for big time recruiting but would pound our hapless Dukes, maybe next year in tournament Dukes are coming to in Nov 2015.

It saddens me to see Duquesne just pissing away a once powerful tradition.

ElDuque wrote:

CLK wrote:

Check this comment out from Ferry.


 

 
Holy cow, I thought these were the Danny Nee quotes before the door hit him where the good Lord split him. Is Ferry saying he's lost this team? That scares the crap out of me. PS, how come these words only get spoken here? How do other coaches manage to figure kids out?

In 8½ years, we are coming full circle. I had to re-read this one from the archives.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/duquesne/2006/03/03/Embattled-Duquesne-coach-fights-a-losing-battle/stories/200603030231

It amazes me how some of the numb nuts on twitter still want to place blame for this Ferry debacle on Ron.  Ron has been gone for three years folks. He came in here and resurrected a program that had been dead for over 30 years. That is a fact. Any opinion of what he would have accomplished if he was not fired is speculation.  Personally I believe he would have reloaded and we would be among the best teams in the League.  Others I know think differently.  The bottom line is that Ferry was hired by our illustrious AD to be the next level coach and he is failing miserably based on performance to date.  I hope he can turn it around and salvage this season and give us hope that he is next level guy.  But If he does or does not, either way it is on him an in no way does Ron get any blame or credit for Ferry's performance or lack thereof PERIOD!

By the was I will never feel the same about Duquesne after the leaked memo that destroyed a good man's career.  I am not alone in this thinking but I am the exception because I root and still hope that DU can win again.  Others have just walked away.  Things will never be right on the Bluff until Amodio is gone.

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The "Hate Ron" faction will always be there. I'm certain that, for example, if the Dukes were to lose 20 or more games this year that the intensity would increase. I'm hoping that Ferry figures things out, one way or the other. He seems to be in pretty far over his head right now, but if he has ambitions beyond the Bluff, he needs to find an accelerator.

Westender wrote:

CLK wrote:

It amazes me how some of the numb nuts on twitter still want to place blame for this Ferry debacle on Ron.  Ron has been gone for three years folks. He came in here and resurrected a program that had been dead for over 30 years. That is a fact. Any opinion of what he would have accomplished if he was not fired is speculation.  Personally I believe he would have reloaded and we would be among the best teams in the League.  Others I know think differently.  The bottom line is that Ferry was hired by our illustrious AD to be the next level coach and he is failing miserably based on performance to date.  I hope he can turn it around and salvage this season and give us hope that he is next level guy.  But If he does or does not, either way it is on him an in no way does Ron get any blame or credit for Ferry's performance or lack thereof PERIOD!

By the was I will never feel the same about Duquesne after the leaked memo that destroyed a good man's career.  I am not alone in this thinking but I am the exception because I root and still hope that DU can win again.  Others have just walked away.  Things will never be right on the Bluff until Amodio is gone.

CLK - I am not on Twitter. I have enough trouble with email and texts. Can you tell me who the "numb nuts" are that are still blaming Ron and/or how I can access their Tweets so I can read them myself. They must be real Ferry apologists, members of Greg Amodio's crew or Greg Amodio himself to still be blaming Ron for the disaster that is Duquesne basketball right now. I say "right now" to be fair because there still is the chance that Ferry can turn things around. And you're right - there are those who have walked away and will not return until Greg Amodio is gone.

 

I think the guy he has in mind is not on this board.