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3/31/2015 10:58 am  #1


Ridenour's gone

Can't blame him. Who's next?

 

3/31/2015 11:18 am  #2


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Losing Desmond Ridenour means nothing. Colter left him in the dust even though you were advocating for more PT for Des. all last year.  You have Castro to replace Colter in the future.

Ridenour showed us nothing. Best to move on. 

I suspect we won't be seeing him transfer to Duke.

Last edited by WEB (3/31/2015 11:19 am)

 

3/31/2015 11:40 am  #3


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And I suspect Duquesne University will finish under .500 again next year in men's basketball.

Enjoy it!
 

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3/31/2015 11:50 am  #4


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No surprise here. He obviously didn't figure to play a major role going forward, so I don't blame him for looking elsewhere.

 

3/31/2015 12:02 pm  #5


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ElDuque wrote:

Can't blame him. Who's next?

Thanks my friend.  I had heard rumors that Powell was going to transfer.  I hope that is not the case.  We will see.
 

 

3/31/2015 12:15 pm  #6


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I barely noticed Ridenour was on the team.  Now Powell, he had some great games and has a lot of upside.  I would hate to see him leave.


Vicimus Atlanticum decem
 

3/31/2015 12:19 pm  #7


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Jeff Goodman transfer list.  This one has Ridenour.  I previously posted the Verbal Commits list.  Both lists are growing fast.

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-goodman/post/_/id/4899/top-10-transfers-and-complete-transfer-list&ex_cid=InsiderTwitter_GoodmanTransferList2015March

 

 

3/31/2015 12:24 pm  #8


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WEB check your inbox

Last edited by CLK (3/31/2015 12:34 pm)

 

3/31/2015 12:53 pm  #9


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You have to wonder how Ferry's building a program when three guys play 38 minutes a game and two of them were recruited to play at LIU originally. Say what you want about Ridenour, last year he showed a lot of promise and this year he was nailed to the bench. Meanwhile, DC still can't handle a double team or drive in traffic, and Jones loves to string together sequences of turnover, dumb foul, turnover, dumber foul, missed bad three-pointer. So next year you have four returning starters and no one with significant PT in a meaningful role.

Don't expect things to get better.

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3/31/2015 1:08 pm  #10


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El Duque, someone said the good news is you have four starters back.  The bad news is you have the same four starters back.  The biggest question I have is can this team get better defensively?  The Dukes are not going to move up playing the same horrible defense they have shown the last three years under Ferry.  If in year three you have to dummy down exclusivelt to a 2-3 zone because you have not recruited good enough payers to even occasionaly play man, you are not building a program.  I want Ferry to succeed but if his team's identity is to out score his opponents in the A!0 without playing defense he is doomed to failure.  None of his teams even in his best years could be considered good defensive teams.  This is what worries me about Ferry. 

 

3/31/2015 1:24 pm  #11


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ElDuque wrote:

You have to wonder how Ferry's building a program when three guys play 38 minutes a game and two of them were recruited to play at LIU originally. Say what you want about Ridenour, last year he showed a lot of promise and this year he was nailed to the bench. Meanwhile, DC still can't handle a double team or drive in traffic, and Jones loves to string together sequences of turnover, dumb foul, turnover, dumber foul, missed bad three-pointer. So next year you have four returning starters and no one with significant PT in a meaningful role.

Don't expect things to get better.

You have Rene Castro who just about every mid major wanted. That's part of a building block.

 

3/31/2015 1:26 pm  #12


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ElDuque wrote:

You have to wonder how Ferry's building a program when three guys play 38 minutes a game and two of them were recruited to play at LIU originally. Say what you want about Ridenour, last year he showed a lot of promise and this year he was nailed to the bench. Meanwhile, DC still can't handle a double team or drive in traffic, and Jones loves to string together sequences of turnover, dumb foul, turnover, dumber foul, missed bad three-pointer. So next year you have four returning starters and no one with significant PT in a meaningful role.

Don't expect things to get better.

Taurean Prince was recruited and committed and signed to LIU with Jim Ferry and is the  best player on Baylors team. Signing with LIU doesn't mean you can't play.

 

3/31/2015 1:33 pm  #13


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WEB wrote:

ElDuque wrote:

You have to wonder how Ferry's building a program when three guys play 38 minutes a game and two of them were recruited to play at LIU originally. Say what you want about Ridenour, last year he showed a lot of promise and this year he was nailed to the bench. Meanwhile, DC still can't handle a double team or drive in traffic, and Jones loves to string together sequences of turnover, dumb foul, turnover, dumber foul, missed bad three-pointer. So next year you have four returning starters and no one with significant PT in a meaningful role.

Don't expect things to get better.

You have Rene Castro who just about every mid major wanted. That's part of a building block.

He barley saw any action at Butler, and nobody has seen him play in a DU uniform yet, so kinda premature to call him a building block.  Yes he had some nice games in the summer league but so did Stevens.  I will wait to see how he plays defense and how Ferry uses him before saying he is a building block. I also thought Watkins and Robinson were going to be building blocks.  I am not buying any preseason hype any more about players. 
 

 

3/31/2015 1:37 pm  #14


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CLK wrote:

WEB wrote:

ElDuque wrote:

You have to wonder how Ferry's building a program when three guys play 38 minutes a game and two of them were recruited to play at LIU originally. Say what you want about Ridenour, last year he showed a lot of promise and this year he was nailed to the bench. Meanwhile, DC still can't handle a double team or drive in traffic, and Jones loves to string together sequences of turnover, dumb foul, turnover, dumber foul, missed bad three-pointer. So next year you have four returning starters and no one with significant PT in a meaningful role.

Don't expect things to get better.

You have Rene Castro who just about every mid major wanted. That's part of a building block.

He barley saw any action at Butler, and nobody has seen him play in a DU uniform yet, so kinda premature to call him a building block.  Yes he had some nice games in the summer league but so did Stevens.  I will wait to see how he plays defense and how Ferry uses him before saying he is a building block. I also thought Watkins and Robinson were going to be building blocks.  I am not buying any preseason hype any more about players. 
 

Brad Stevens wanted him. That's good enough for me.

 

3/31/2015 2:17 pm  #15


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WEB wrote:

CLK wrote:

WEB wrote:


You have Rene Castro who just about every mid major wanted. That's part of a building block.

He barley saw any action at Butler, and nobody has seen him play in a DU uniform yet, so kinda premature to call him a building block.  Yes he had some nice games in the summer league but so did Stevens.  I will wait to see how he plays defense and how Ferry uses him before saying he is a building block. I also thought Watkins and Robinson were going to be building blocks.  I am not buying any preseason hype any more about players. 
 

Brad Stevens wanted him. That's good enough for me.

That's great if you're crafting quotes for Tiger Beat magazine Web. I remain unimpressed.

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3/31/2015 5:12 pm  #16


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Didn't Ridenour originally commit to DAYTON??  Not surprising he left given the amount of playing time he received -  (I think he was WAY to erratic -  seemed to turn lay ups and drives to the hoop into triple pump shots)  As Paul Evans once told Demetrius Gore -  "You DON'T get extra credit based on "degree of difficulty"  If he DID commit to Dayton - we weren't the ONLY ones to misjudge him - DEFINITELY WANT POWELL TO STAY!!

 

3/31/2015 6:10 pm  #17


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Not to be critical, but it was Roy Chipman who told "Me" Gore you get nothing extra for degree of difficulty.  Said it publicly after Gore missed a 360 dunk and helped blow a Pitt lead that led to an evenutual loss.

 

3/31/2015 6:42 pm  #18


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grammudder wrote:

Not to be critical, but it was Roy Chipman who told "Me" Gore you get nothing extra for degree of difficulty.  Said it publicly after Gore missed a 360 dunk and helped blow a Pitt lead that led to an evenutual loss.

Gramm, Gore was called "Me", not because he was selfish, it was short for Demetrius.
 

 

3/31/2015 9:24 pm  #19


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CLK wrote:

I want Ferry to succeed but if his team's identity is to out score his opponents in the A!0 without playing defense he is doomed to failure.   

Right on.  I haven't had much affinity for Ferry from the start, but I became really concerned watching his press conference after Davidson beat us, 107-78.  Ferry was asked questions about the defense but shrugged them off & essentially blamed the loss on his offense.  I don't ever see too many victories in the A-10 by scores of 108-107.
 

 

3/31/2015 9:29 pm  #20


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WEB wrote:

You have Rene Castro who just about every mid major wanted. That's part of a building block.

Castro went to 3 high schools & didn't last one season at Butler.  I'm gonna wait & see if he has the ability to even stay in one place for a while before I get excited about him being at Duquesne.

 

4/01/2015 9:57 am  #21


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Who does Castro take minutes from? Mason? Colter? I read on the other board that those guys have a shot to be all conference. Not that I buy into that -- I don't -- but how would that happen if they're sharing minutes with Castro. What about Jones? Does he take Jones' minutes? Which means he plays the Ferry version of a 3? So we can have three small guards on the court at the same time? Does he take minutes from Lewis? Hell the guy can only play 10 minutes a game as it is. That leaves the 4 spot. Wait ... I get it! Jones becomes the 4. Mason becomes an experiment at 3, just like last year's point guard experiment. Now it makes perfect sense to me!

Of course, once conference play begins, Castro gets planted on the bench and the walk-ons get minutes again.

Genius. Sheer genius.

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4/01/2015 1:38 pm  #22


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ElDuque, welcome home!!!!  I have stated the same point how disingenuous was it to the kids when you started the A-10 tourney playing 6 maybe 7 players but 3-4 of them playing as you stated 38 minutes. Castro sat out a year and will need sometime to fit in. I also don't see us getting any bigger at the guard position a disadvantage that Ferry himself alluded to when excusing the outrageous 3 point percentage we gave up this season. I stated from the start of the small spurt that everyone wants to latch onto that Ferry buried valuable experience for guys to paper off a disastrous season with a couple of wins. In the end when he had a golden opportunity to beat GW in the final the team couldn't or wouldn't get it to the hottest player on the court and eventually fatigue set in.

 

4/01/2015 3:01 pm  #23


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ElDuque wrote:

Who does Castro take minutes from? Mason? Colter? I read on the other board that those guys have a shot to be all conference. Not that I buy into that -- I don't -- but how would that happen if they're sharing minutes with Castro. What about Jones? Does he take Jones' minutes? Which means he plays the Ferry version of a 3? So we can have three small guards on the court at the same time? Does he take minutes from Lewis? Hell the guy can only play 10 minutes a game as it is. That leaves the 4 spot. Wait ... I get it! Jones becomes the 4. Mason becomes an experiment at 3, just like last year's point guard experiment. Now it makes perfect sense to me!

Of course, once conference play begins, Castro gets planted on the bench and the walk-ons get minutes again.

Genius. Sheer genius.

Obviously you would expect that he'll go to a 3 guard rotation, with the three each getting 25-28 minutes a game. Was hard to go the bench when the other guards were so horrible, and Mason and Colter were your two best players. The team got better after Stevens was sent away.

Ferry's future is riding on Castro. If Castro doesn't live up to his hype, Ferry will be getting a pink slip, sooner rather than later. If he's the real deal, we'll probably have a decent season next year.
 

 

4/01/2015 3:27 pm  #24


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If Castro is next year's Stephens, then what?

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4/01/2015 3:55 pm  #25


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ElDuque wrote:

If Castro is next year's Stephens, then what?

Bye bye Ferry! To be fair though, Castro was a very highly regarded recruit. Ferry wanted Castro, not Notice, or Severe the year he came out. Butler was a disaster after Stevens left last year, so you don't want to write Castro off based on last year.
Hey, there are no guarantees, but I'd rather be depending on a guy who Brad Stevens thought was good enough to play for him, than some guy we got over Rider. Time will tell. There's no point in making yourself upset over things. This is the year when the program should take a clear step forward. If it doesn't, the blame falls on the coach.
 

 

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