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No, Everhart did not recruit Jackson, but he did DEVELOP him. I don't know ED. I give most of the credit for AJAX to AJAX. He was pretty good as a freshman under Nee. 2-1 assist to turnover ratio. Lone bright spot on a horrible team. I liked him from the start, and actually feel that Ron retarded his development by giving so many minutes to the thoroughly overrated Kojo Mensah. Remember that Ron tried to run him off along with the rest of the roster when he was hired. AJax was having none of it. Ron liked his spunk, and allowed him to stay. I also remember certain Einsteins on this board who wanted to see AJax benched for the new superstar Eric Evans, who we supposedly stole from Michigan St., and Michigan. To his credit, Ron finally woke up during Aaron's last year, and let him take over. Totally agreed Duq81. Ajax made himself. Ron started the 5am runs to run off everyone and Ajax shoved it right back in his face. Mensah was a total mistake. He was a protected player in the MAAC and was afforded no such treatment in the A10. No, Everhart did not recruit Jackson, but he did DEVELOP him. I don't know ED. I give most of the credit for AJAX to AJAX. He was pretty good as a freshman under Nee. 2-1 assist to turnover ratio. Lone bright spot on a horrible team. I liked him from the start, and actually feel that Ron retarded his development by giving so many minutes to the thoroughly overrated Kojo Mensah. Remember that Ron tried to run him off along with the rest of the roster when he was hired. AJax was having none of it. Ron liked his spunk, and allowed him to stay. I also remember certain Einsteins on this board who wanted to see AJax benched for the new superstar Eric Evans, who we supposedly stole from Michigan St., and Michigan. To his credit, Ron finally woke up during Aaron's last year, and let him take over. Totally agreed Duq81. Ajax made himself. Ron started the 5am runs to run off everyone and Ajax shoved it right back in his face. Mensah was a total mistake. He was a protected player in the MAAC and was afforded no such treatment in the A10. All true, but it's time to start winning. No one is asking for a 25 win season at this point, but a winning season is a reasonable expectation. Totally agreed Duq81. Ajax made himself. Ron started the 5am runs to run off everyone and Ajax shoved it right back in his face. Mensah was a total mistake. He was a protected player in the MAAC and was afforded no such treatment in the A10. All true, but it's time to start winning. No one is asking for a 25 win season at this point, but a winning season is a reasonable expectation. All true, but it's time to start winning. No one is asking for a 25 win season at this point, but a winning season is a reasonable expectation. Robert Morris is at Palumbo. That's a must win. 9-4 would be a solid ooc record (13 games ooc, as tournaments count as one game, not three). Robert Morris is at Palumbo. That's a must win. 9-4 would be a solid ooc record (13 games ooc, as tournaments count as one game, not three). No, Everhart did not recruit Jackson, but he did DEVELOP him. I don't know ED. I give most of the credit for AJAX to AJAX. He was pretty good as a freshman under Nee. 2-1 assist to turnover ratio. Lone bright spot on a horrible team. I liked him from the start, and actually feel that Ron retarded his development by giving so many minutes to the thoroughly overrated Kojo Mensah. Remember that Ron tried to run him off along with the rest of the roster when he was hired. AJax was having none of it. Ron liked his spunk, and allowed him to stay. I also remember certain Einsteins on this board who wanted to see AJax benched for the new superstar Eric Evans, who we supposedly stole from Michigan St., and Michigan. To his credit, Ron finally woke up during Aaron's last year, and let him take over. Totally agreed Duq81. Ajax made himself. Ron started the 5am runs to run off everyone and Ajax shoved it right back in his face. Mensah was a total mistake. He was a protected player in the MAAC and was afforded no such treatment in the A10. Completely disagree. If Ron couldn't coach, how do you explain the fact that he actually WON at a school where Ferry's whining publicly about how hard it is to win. My last word on the topic of RE. Gratias agamus deum nostrum! Gratias agamus deum nostrum! Let us give thanks to our God. Last edited by CLK (5/08/2015 4:49 pm) Totally agreed Duq81. Ajax made himself. Ron started the 5am runs to run off everyone and Ajax shoved it right back in his face. Mensah was a total mistake. He was a protected player in the MAAC and was afforded no such treatment in the A10. Completely disagree. If Ron couldn't coach, how do you explain the fact that he actually WON at a school where Ferry's whining publicly about how hard it is to win. My last word on the topic of RE. 0 NCAAS in 17 attempts. A "coach" does get 1 right? Mr. Web, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyoneon this board is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. The part of the article I find interesting is how the program was so close to NCAA sanctions right as Ferry took over. Ouch. Not even close. Read what you what to believe, not even close. I don't know ED. I give most of the credit for AJAX to AJAX. He was pretty good as a freshman under Nee. 2-1 assist to turnover ratio. Lone bright spot on a horrible team. I liked him from the start, and actually feel that Ron retarded his development by giving so many minutes to the thoroughly overrated Kojo Mensah. Remember that Ron tried to run him off along with the rest of the roster when he was hired. AJax was having none of it. Ron liked his spunk, and allowed him to stay. I also remember certain Einsteins on this board who wanted to see AJax benched for the new superstar Eric Evans, who we supposedly stole from Michigan St., and Michigan. To his credit, Ron finally woke up during Aaron's last year, and let him take over. Totally agreed Duq81. Ajax made himself. Ron started the 5am runs to run off everyone and Ajax shoved it right back in his face. Mensah was a total mistake. He was a protected player in the MAAC and was afforded no such treatment in the A10. Completely disagree. If Ron couldn't coach, how do you explain the fact that he actually WON at a school where Ferry's whining publicly about how hard it is to win. My last word on the topic of RE. And this crap about other schools spending big bucks for arenas?? The Cosol Arena is less than a block off of the Campus (and it's ours) , and NO OTHER A-10 TEAM HAS THAT !! RON WON HERE PERIOD, FERRY HAD BETTER START WINNING AND QUIT WHINING. Mr. Web, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyoneon this board is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Okay, a simple "wrong" would've done just fine. Totally agreed Duq81. Ajax made himself. Ron started the 5am runs to run off everyone and Ajax shoved it right back in his face. Mensah was a total mistake. He was a protected player in the MAAC and was afforded no such treatment in the A10. Completely disagree. If Ron couldn't coach, how do you explain the fact that he actually WON at a school where Ferry's whining publicly about how hard it is to win. My last word on the topic of RE. And this crap about other schools spending big bucks for arenas?? The Cosol Arena is less than a block off of the Campus (and it's ours) , and NO OTHER A-10 TEAM HAS THAT !! RON WON HERE PERIOD, FERRY HAD BETTER START WINNING AND QUIT WHINING. That's tbe problem.. Who wants to play infront of 4,000 fans for an atlantic 10 matchup in a 18,000 capacity arena? Consol is just an excuse for the administrators to not give money for improvements or a new arena, that's a fact. There's one school that actually makes money and it pays off for them to play in a professional sports arena and that's Villanova. Seton hall plays at the prudential center and they get no fans to show up. Doesn't work for marquette, it will probby work for st johns cause they have mullin, but they by any means don't draw enough to play in the garden. The garden isn't even famous like it used to be, every team plays in there these days. It doesn't work for a bunch of schools. There's one similarity between all the schools too they're not very good besides nova. It's flat out an excuse for the president not to donate money. The city game should be the only game played at CONSOL IMO Last edited by Steel city AJ (5/09/2015 5:53 pm) And this crap about other schools spending big bucks for arenas?? The Cosol Arena is less than a block off of the Campus (and it's ours) , and NO OTHER A-10 TEAM HAS THAT !! RON WON HERE PERIOD, FERRY HAD BETTER START WINNING AND QUIT WHINING. That's tbe problem.. Who wants to play infront of 4,000 fans for an atlantic 10 matchup in a 18,000 capacity arena? Consol is just an excuse for the administrators to not give money for improvements or a new arena, that's a fact. There's one school that actually makes money and it pays off for them to play in a professional sports arena and that's Villanova. Seton hall plays at the prudential center and they get no fans to show up. Doesn't work for marquette, it will probby work for st johns cause they have mullin, but they by any means don't draw enough to play in the garden. The garden isn't even famous like it used to be, every team plays in there these days. It doesn't work for a bunch of schools. There's one similarity between all the schools too they're not very good besides nova. It's flat out an excuse for the president not to donate money. The city game should be the only game played at CONSOL IMO Agree. Perhaps I am in the minority, but I absolutely love watching games in Palumbo. I think the arena is really nice, and most of the seats are great. I know we joke about painting the bleachers, but they don't bother me at all. Students should be standing most of the time anyways. I think the only thing that could use some improvement are the game day atmosphere, the metal detectors, and the lobby area could be a bit nicer. Also, the food sucks. That's tbe problem.. Who wants to play infront of 4,000 fans for an atlantic 10 matchup in a 18,000 capacity arena? Consol is just an excuse for the administrators to not give money for improvements or a new arena, that's a fact. There's one school that actually makes money and it pays off for them to play in a professional sports arena and that's Villanova. Seton hall plays at the prudential center and they get no fans to show up. Doesn't work for marquette, it will probby work for st johns cause they have mullin, but they by any means don't draw enough to play in the garden. The garden isn't even famous like it used to be, every team plays in there these days. It doesn't work for a bunch of schools. There's one similarity between all the schools too they're not very good besides nova. It's flat out an excuse for the president not to donate money. The city game should be the only game played at CONSOL IMO Agree. Perhaps I am in the minority, but I absolutely love watching games in Palumbo. I think the arena is really nice, and most of the seats are great. I know we joke about painting the bleachers, but they don't bother me at all. Students should be standing most of the time anyways. I think the only thing that could use some improvement are the game day atmosphere, the metal detectors, and the lobby area could be a bit nicer. Also, the food sucks. well played on the billy madison quote! That's tbe problem.. Who wants to play infront of 4,000 fans for an atlantic 10 matchup in a 18,000 capacity arena? Consol is just an excuse for the administrators to not give money for improvements or a new arena, that's a fact. There's one school that actually makes money and it pays off for them to play in a professional sports arena and that's Villanova. Seton hall plays at the prudential center and they get no fans to show up. Doesn't work for marquette, it will probby work for st johns cause they have mullin, but they by any means don't draw enough to play in the garden. The garden isn't even famous like it used to be, every team plays in there these days. It doesn't work for a bunch of schools. There's one similarity between all the schools too they're not very good besides nova. It's flat out an excuse for the president not to donate money. The city game should be the only game played at CONSOL IMO Agree. Perhaps I am in the minority, but I absolutely love watching games in Palumbo. I think the arena is really nice, and most of the seats are great. I know we joke about painting the bleachers, but they don't bother me at all. Students should be standing most of the time anyways. I think the only thing that could use some improvement are the game day atmosphere, the metal detectors, and the lobby area could be a bit nicer. Also, the food sucks. well played on the billy madison quote! I"ll be the desenting voice. If the team becomes good, they won't be playing in front of 4,000 at the Consol. If you become good, you play your most attractive games there. You play the majority of your games at palumbo. Do you think a ranked Duquesne team would only draw 4,000 to a game vs a ranked VCU team at the Consol? If that's all we could draw, then it's time to give up playing hoops at a high level. You guys are people who think small. If it were 1905, you guys would be the people who were yelling "GET A HORSE" at the early motorists. Last edited by duq81 (5/10/2015 12:20 pm) Mamadou Datt declined because his legs were ruined. He showed more promise his first year than any of Ferry's big men have shown so far. Lewis might have some game if he can build his endurance. Gill might have some game if Ferry can coach him into playing forward instead of acting like a catch and shoot guard. Robinson is still a mystery. Mamadou Datt declined because his legs were ruined. He showed more promise his first year than any of Ferry's big men have shown so far. Lewis might have some game if he can build his endurance. Gill might have some game if Ferry can coach him into playing forward instead of acting like a catch and shoot guard. Robinson is still a mystery. C'mon now. Soko was better than Datt by a mile. So was McCoy. I know you don't like Ferry, but let's be fair now. Mamadou Datt declined because his legs were ruined. He showed more promise his first year than any of Ferry's big men have shown so far. Lewis might have some game if he can build his endurance. Gill might have some game if Ferry can coach him into playing forward instead of acting like a catch and shoot guard. Robinson is still a mystery. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? That may be the best post of the year. DATT was so bad he couldn't even finish his career in division 2. DATT makes Darius look like Kareem abdul jabbar. Him and Abele were God awful. Mamadou Datt declined because his legs were ruined. He showed more promise his first year than any of Ferry's big men have shown so far. Lewis might have some game if he can build his endurance. Gill might have some game if Ferry can coach him into playing forward instead of acting like a catch and shoot guard. Robinson is still a mystery. C'mon now. Soko was better than Datt by a mile. So was McCoy. I know you don't like Ferry, but let's be fair now. Mamadou Datt declined because his legs were ruined. He showed more promise his first year than any of Ferry's big men have shown so far. Lewis might have some game if he can build his endurance. Gill might have some game if Ferry can coach him into playing forward instead of acting like a catch and shoot guard. Robinson is still a mystery. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? That may be the best post of the year. DATT was so bad he couldn't even finish his career in division 2. DATT makes Darius look like Kareem abdul jabbar. Him and Abele were God awful. Mamadou Datt declined because his legs were ruined. He showed more promise his first year than any of Ferry's big men have shown so far. Lewis might have some game if he can build his endurance. Gill might have some game if Ferry can coach him into playing forward instead of acting like a catch and shoot guard. Robinson is still a mystery. ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? That may be the best post of the year. DATT was so bad he couldn't even finish his career in division 2. DATT makes Darius look like Kareem abdul jabbar. Him and Abele were God awful. Datt showed me nothing more impressive than Lewis or even Robinson. Hell, Powell has moves that Datt wishes he could have had. All I remember of Datt is him occasionally grabbing a rebound and putting it back in. Last edited by Simms (5/10/2015 10:42 pm) Let's be fair. Powell is one dimensional. Give him the ball underneath and he might jam it for you. Didn't see a hell of a lot of defense or rebounding from him, although to be totally fair he looks like he's 6-5. Robinson was handed a starting job, benched about 10 seconds into it (yes, I'm exaggerating), and had trouble finding the court after that. Lewis, as a freshman, looked stiffer than Charlie McCarthy. For those of you who are too young to know who he was, here's a picture: . Lewis stepped up last year, but played what, 10 minutes a game? Gill had one good game as a freshman (VCU), otherwise, he didn't show much. We can bash Datt all we want, the truth is that most people loved him freshman year and thought he could develop into something. He didn't, and blowing out a wheel didn't help him. Nor did being an Everhart recruit on a Ferry team help him, because Ferry was already intent on exiting him from the program. El D,
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Ferry realizes it's time to turn the corner and start winning. But again, program was a total mess when he came in. It's year 3 for me. Not 4. When you believe on winning with upperclassmen, it takes time, to you know, develop juniors and seniors.
I just think we are getting to the point now where when we graduate players, we have replacements who can step in. When Mason and Colter leave, Castro and Smith step in to starters minutes and we can continue developing in other areas. I recall some, maybe ElDuque?, calling for a tough nosed NJ PG. Well...we have one in the program now. Learned from Hurley also.
I don't know much about Steel, but often times the Euro players are more advanced and skilled than normal FR. That could benefit us tremendously.
Imperative to me to continue to develop Lewis, Robinson and Sanders. That's the weak spot but those guys have talent.
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WEB wrote:duq81 wrote:ElDuque wrote:
Ferry realizes it's time to turn the corner and start winning. But again, program was a total mess when he came in. It's year 3 for me. Not 4. When you believe on winning with upperclassmen, it takes time, to you know, develop juniors and seniors.
I just think we are getting to the point now where when we graduate players, we have replacements who can step in. When Mason and Colter leave, Castro and Smith step in to starters minutes and we can continue developing in other areas. I recall some, maybe ElDuque?, calling for a tough nosed NJ PG. Well...we have one in the program now. Learned from Hurley also.
I don't know much about Steel, but often times the Euro players are more advanced and skilled than normal FR. That could benefit us tremendously.
Imperative to me to continue to develop Lewis, Robinson and Sanders. That's the weak spot but those guys have talent.
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I don't know ED. I give most of the credit for AJAX to AJAX. He was pretty good as a freshman under Nee. 2-1 assist to turnover ratio. Lone bright spot on a horrible team. I liked him from the start, and actually feel that Ron retarded his development by giving so many minutes to the thoroughly overrated Kojo Mensah. Remember that Ron tried to run him off along with the rest of the roster when he was hired. AJax was having none of it. Ron liked his spunk, and allowed him to stay. I also remember certain Einsteins on this board who wanted to see AJax benched for the new superstar Eric Evans, who we supposedly stole from Michigan St., and Michigan. To his credit, Ron finally woke up during Aaron's last year, and let him take over.
Ferry realizes it's time to turn the corner and start winning. But again, program was a total mess when he came in. It's year 3 for me. Not 4. When you believe on winning with upperclassmen, it takes time, to you know, develop juniors and seniors.
I just think we are getting to the point now where when we graduate players, we have replacements who can step in. When Mason and Colter leave, Castro and Smith step in to starters minutes and we can continue developing in other areas. I recall some, maybe ElDuque?, calling for a tough nosed NJ PG. Well...we have one in the program now. Learned from Hurley also.
I don't know much about Steel, but often times the Euro players are more advanced and skilled than normal FR. That could benefit us tremendously.
Imperative to me to continue to develop Lewis, Robinson and Sanders. That's the weak spot but those guys have talent.
I have said it before and it will be my mantra: Maybe Ferry can put it on a motivational poster in his office with a picture of a kitty cat hanging from a branch. 
1. 70% Winning percentage in OOC. Lose to Pitt and Robert Morris, but win the cupcake games and win decisively. No more nail biters against the Shippensburgs and no more uh-oh losses against garbage teams. Now I do understand that we will play a better team or two during this tournament, so the OOC will be a tad tougher than last year's but still. 8-3, at worst 7-4 while being competitve.
2. No worse than .500 in the A-10! Competitive on the road and win at home. If the team is over .500 in the OOC, I think the fans will start to come back. Now it's Amodio and his staff's turn to start earning their money and market the hell out of these games at the Consol. Let's get 6-8 thousand DU fans into the Consol bowl for those games. Give away the tickets for a buck, I don't care, but time to step it up Greg. Make that locker room at the Consol mean something when recruits come here and see us beating Dayton again in that facility. So 9-9 or 10-8 brings us to the afore-mentioned 16-18 wins.
3. Avoid the play in day at the A-10 Tourney, which a .500 record would probably guarantee, and beat one team in the Tourney. "Hey guys, it's Friday and we are actually still playing meaningful basketball in March for the first tmie since 2009!" There is your 17th to 19th win!
4. We are now in the conversation for a tertiary tournament. Twenty wins and we are in the NIT discussion. "Hey guys, It's March and we are still playing basketball. Our goal next year is the next level tournament!"
I don't consider these outrageous goals! I will accept nothing less than 17 wins!
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Tejas_Duke wrote:duq81 wrote:WEB wrote:
Totally agreed Duq81. Ajax made himself. Ron started the 5am runs to run off everyone and Ajax shoved it right back in his face. Mensah was a total mistake. He was a protected player in the MAAC and was afforded no such treatment in the A10.
Ferry realizes it's time to turn the corner and start winning. But again, program was a total mess when he came in. It's year 3 for me. Not 4. When you believe on winning with upperclassmen, it takes time, to you know, develop juniors and seniors.
I just think we are getting to the point now where when we graduate players, we have replacements who can step in. When Mason and Colter leave, Castro and Smith step in to starters minutes and we can continue developing in other areas. I recall some, maybe ElDuque?, calling for a tough nosed NJ PG. Well...we have one in the program now. Learned from Hurley also.
I don't know much about Steel, but often times the Euro players are more advanced and skilled than normal FR. That could benefit us tremendously.
Imperative to me to continue to develop Lewis, Robinson and Sanders. That's the weak spot but those guys have talent.
I have said it before and it will be my mantra: Maybe Ferry can put it on a motivational poster in his office with a picture of a kitty cat hanging from a branch.
1. 70% Winning percentage in OOC. Lose to Pitt and Robert Morris, but win the cupcake games and win decisively. No more nail biters against the Shippensburgs and no more uh-oh losses against garbage teams. Now I do understand that we will play a better team or two during this tournament, so the OOC will be a tad tougher than last year's but still. 8-3, at worst 7-4 while being competitve.
2. No worse than .500 in the A-10! Competitive on the road and win at home. If the team is over .500 in the OOC, I think the fans will start to come back. Now it's Amodio and his staff's turn to start earning their money and market the hell out of these games at the Consol. Let's get 6-8 thousand DU fans into the Consol bowl for those games. Give away the tickets for a buck, I don't care, but time to step it up Greg. Make that locker room at the Consol mean something when recruits come here and see us beating Dayton again in that facility. So 9-9 or 10-8 brings us to the afore-mentioned 16-18 wins.
3. Avoid the play in day at the A-10 Tourney, which a .500 record would probably guarantee, and beat one team in the Tourney. "Hey guys, it's Friday and we are actually still playing meaningful basketball in March for the first tmie since 2009!" There is your 17th to 19th win!
4. We are now in the conversation for a tertiary tournament. Twenty wins and we are in the NIT discussion. "Hey guys, It's March and we are still playing basketball. Our goal next year is the next level tournament!"
I don't consider these outrageous goals! I will accept nothing less than 17 wins!
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duq81 wrote:Tejas_Duke wrote:duq81 wrote:
All true, but it's time to start winning. No one is asking for a 25 win season at this point, but a winning season is a reasonable expectation.
I have said it before and it will be my mantra: Maybe Ferry can put it on a motivational poster in his office with a picture of a kitty cat hanging from a branch.
1. 70% Winning percentage in OOC. Lose to Pitt and Robert Morris, but win the cupcake games and win decisively. No more nail biters against the Shippensburgs and no more uh-oh losses against garbage teams. Now I do understand that we will play a better team or two during this tournament, so the OOC will be a tad tougher than last year's but still. 8-3, at worst 7-4 while being competitve.
2. No worse than .500 in the A-10! Competitive on the road and win at home. If the team is over .500 in the OOC, I think the fans will start to come back. Now it's Amodio and his staff's turn to start earning their money and market the hell out of these games at the Consol. Let's get 6-8 thousand DU fans into the Consol bowl for those games. Give away the tickets for a buck, I don't care, but time to step it up Greg. Make that locker room at the Consol mean something when recruits come here and see us beating Dayton again in that facility. So 9-9 or 10-8 brings us to the afore-mentioned 16-18 wins.
3. Avoid the play in day at the A-10 Tourney, which a .500 record would probably guarantee, and beat one team in the Tourney. "Hey guys, it's Friday and we are actually still playing meaningful basketball in March for the first tmie since 2009!" There is your 17th to 19th win!
4. We are now in the conversation for a tertiary tournament. Twenty wins and we are in the NIT discussion. "Hey guys, It's March and we are still playing basketball. Our goal next year is the next level tournament!"
I don't consider these outrageous goals! I will accept nothing less than 17 wins!
Thanks for the correction. I was going on last year's schedule. Was not sure how the tournamant would affect things. Ok, my 17 wins seems very, very reachable now.
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WEB wrote:duq81 wrote:ElDuque wrote:
Ferry realizes it's time to turn the corner and start winning. But again, program was a total mess when he came in. It's year 3 for me. Not 4. When you believe on winning with upperclassmen, it takes time, to you know, develop juniors and seniors.
I just think we are getting to the point now where when we graduate players, we have replacements who can step in. When Mason and Colter leave, Castro and Smith step in to starters minutes and we can continue developing in other areas. I recall some, maybe ElDuque?, calling for a tough nosed NJ PG. Well...we have one in the program now. Learned from Hurley also.
I don't know much about Steel, but often times the Euro players are more advanced and skilled than normal FR. That could benefit us tremendously.
Imperative to me to continue to develop Lewis, Robinson and Sanders. That's the weak spot but those guys have talent.
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Good reminder, Grammy. Thanks.
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ElDuque wrote:WEB wrote:duq81 wrote:
I don't know ED. I give most of the credit for AJAX to AJAX. He was pretty good as a freshman under Nee. 2-1 assist to turnover ratio. Lone bright spot on a horrible team. I liked him from the start, and actually feel that Ron retarded his development by giving so many minutes to the thoroughly overrated Kojo Mensah. Remember that Ron tried to run him off along with the rest of the roster when he was hired. AJax was having none of it. Ron liked his spunk, and allowed him to stay. I also remember certain Einsteins on this board who wanted to see AJax benched for the new superstar Eric Evans, who we supposedly stole from Michigan St., and Michigan. To his credit, Ron finally woke up during Aaron's last year, and let him take over.
Ferry realizes it's time to turn the corner and start winning. But again, program was a total mess when he came in. It's year 3 for me. Not 4. When you believe on winning with upperclassmen, it takes time, to you know, develop juniors and seniors.
I just think we are getting to the point now where when we graduate players, we have replacements who can step in. When Mason and Colter leave, Castro and Smith step in to starters minutes and we can continue developing in other areas. I recall some, maybe ElDuque?, calling for a tough nosed NJ PG. Well...we have one in the program now. Learned from Hurley also.
I don't know much about Steel, but often times the Euro players are more advanced and skilled than normal FR. That could benefit us tremendously.
Imperative to me to continue to develop Lewis, Robinson and Sanders. That's the weak spot but those guys have talent.
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ElDuque wrote:WEB wrote:duq81 wrote:
Ferry realizes it's time to turn the corner and start winning. But again, program was a total mess when he came in. It's year 3 for me. Not 4. When you believe on winning with upperclassmen, it takes time, to you know, develop juniors and seniors.
I just think we are getting to the point now where when we graduate players, we have replacements who can step in. When Mason and Colter leave, Castro and Smith step in to starters minutes and we can continue developing in other areas. I recall some, maybe ElDuque?, calling for a tough nosed NJ PG. Well...we have one in the program now. Learned from Hurley also.
I don't know much about Steel, but often times the Euro players are more advanced and skilled than normal FR. That could benefit us tremendously.
Imperative to me to continue to develop Lewis, Robinson and Sanders. That's the weak spot but those guys have talent.
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NapaDuke wrote:ElDuque wrote:WEB wrote:
Ferry realizes it's time to turn the corner and start winning. But again, program was a total mess when he came in. It's year 3 for me. Not 4. When you believe on winning with upperclassmen, it takes time, to you know, develop juniors and seniors.
I just think we are getting to the point now where when we graduate players, we have replacements who can step in. When Mason and Colter leave, Castro and Smith step in to starters minutes and we can continue developing in other areas. I recall some, maybe ElDuque?, calling for a tough nosed NJ PG. Well...we have one in the program now. Learned from Hurley also.
I don't know much about Steel, but often times the Euro players are more advanced and skilled than normal FR. That could benefit us tremendously.
Imperative to me to continue to develop Lewis, Robinson and Sanders. That's the weak spot but those guys have talent.
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Steel city AJ wrote:NapaDuke wrote:ElDuque wrote:
Completely disagree. If Ron couldn't coach, how do you explain the fact that he actually WON at a school where Ferry's whining publicly about how hard it is to win. My last word on the topic of RE.
"You have to be realistic about these things." - Logen Ninefingers
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Simms wrote:Steel city AJ wrote:NapaDuke wrote:
And this crap about other schools spending big bucks for arenas?? The Cosol Arena is less than a block off of the Campus (and it's ours) , and NO OTHER A-10 TEAM HAS THAT !! RON WON HERE PERIOD, FERRY HAD BETTER START WINNING AND QUIT WHINING.
im with you on the AJP. i personally wish all games were there as well, including the city game...
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heelsdukesfan wrote:Simms wrote:Steel city AJ wrote:
im with you on the AJP. i personally wish all games were there as well, including the city game...
Also, I know they had an off year last season, but if you don't think Marquette is very good, you just haven't watched much basketball over the last decade or so.
Villanova plays a handful of games at the Sixers place. Most of their games are played at the Pavillion. The school that plays all of their games at a pro arena is Georgetown. I guess they suck too.
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duq81 wrote:ElDuque wrote:
You need to stop putting words in my mouth. If I get to the point where I don't like Ferry, I will say so myself. Soko and McKoy can't help us this year. We need Lewis, Robinson and Gill to step up. Or am I missing something?
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Steel city AJ wrote:ElDuque wrote:
And what have our current crop of big men shown to indicate we should have optimism? Just asking because maybe I'm missing something. Ps, check your grammar before posting. I don't like being scolded by someone who mixes up prepositions. :o)
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ElDuque wrote:Steel city AJ wrote:ElDuque wrote:
And what have our current crop of big men shown to indicate we should have optimism? Just asking because maybe I'm missing something. Ps, check your grammar before posting. I don't like being scolded by someone who mixes up prepositions. :o)
"You have to be realistic about these things." - Logen Ninefingers
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Remember, Datt didn't come here with the same hype that followed Robinson. Datt, in my opinion, was a bit of a pleasant durprise, while Robinson was a major dud. Powell and Lewis: so-so, certainly no great shakes.
And PS, Steel City AJ seems to forget that Ovie Soko couldn't hit a damned layup to save his life (watch this turn into me saying he sucked). Soko, too, was a far more hyped player.
My reason for commenting in the first place is that I'm sick of people putting misonformation on this board about the condition of the program under Everhart. Of course Amodio is going to say anything he can to paint a bad picture. He's still justifying what he did. If you read some of that crap, you'd think the guy was 0-28 every year, recruited nothing but D2 players, didn't know Xs and Os, had 100% roster turnover every year, murdered babies, and pushed wheelchair-bound grandmas down empty elevator shafts.
Can we get past this, and focus on here and now?
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I am with you on moving on, none of these guys were/are big time players.
If this team cam produce 15 wins this year, I will be surprised. Forget what a former coach did or didn't do, hope for the best with the one we got ( stuck with ? ).
A diehard fan since 1961
