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Offline What can you say, LaSalle beat DU like they were playing a CYO team. Lasalle's guards were terrific. The Dukes still have a long way to go in that regard. Next year we will be bigger, and should not get pushed around inside. However, we still need a couple of really good guards that can, defend, shoot and handle ball. Last edited by CLK (3/02/2013 4:15 pm) Offline What can you say, LaSalle beat DU like they were playing a CYO team. Lasalle's guards were terrific. The Dukes still have a long way to go in that regard. Next year we will be bigger, and should not get pushed around inside. However, we still need a couple of really good guards that can, defend, shoot and handle ball. Wasn't a big believer on the Dukes getting a JUCO guard for next year until about an hour ago. They did a very good job of convincing me that we need to improve there and fast if we want any shot at being decent. Last edited by steve19981 (3/02/2013 4:28 pm) Offline Our guards were a step slow, and I stop counting how many open shots they missed. Here is the bitter truth, Ferry needs to recruit well enough that only Colter and Winters get significant minutes next year from the remaining guards on this year's squad, and even there they need to be fighting for a starting spot. To do this Datt or/and Martin need to transfer to open up another ship (or two) to be able to recruit at least two more quality guards. I am not giving up on Indy Jones or Biney as they can be significant role players, but we need better talent and guys who are consistent shooters-scorers. Last edited by CLK (3/02/2013 4:58 pm) Offline Obviously we need as many good players as we can find and I'm encouraged by our recent committment .That being said, I think Coulter is out of gas.Before the URI game had had already played 831 min which probably means he's over 1000 at this point. Thats a lot for a freshman. Offline I agree that the freshmen are out of gas. That being said, I'm not sure how good they can be once they get to be juniors. Jim Ferry got into the job late and had little time to recruit, so this is not a criticism of him. Offline I agree that the freshmen are out of gas. That being said, I'm not sure how good they can be once they get to be juniors. Jim Ferry got into the job late and had little time to recruit, so this is not a criticism of him. Long term, I think they are important reserves, or role player type starters. All of them have shown that they can produce at this level, but I don't know if they can do it consistently, at a high enough level to be impact players. That said, every team needs quality reserves, as well as complementary type starters. I think that these guys can fit those roles, as opposed to the sophomore class, which is clearly in over it's head at this level. Offline I agree that the freshmen are out of gas. That being said, I'm not sure how good they can be once they get to be juniors. Jim Ferry got into the job late and had little time to recruit, so this is not a criticism of him. I think Colter and Winters are players and I think serve as a solid fondation. I like Jeremiah Jones' defense but I'm not sold on him at the other end to play more than 20-25 minutes a game. Of course, we just got drubbed by a team with 5 good and more experienced guards so clearly we're going to be a little hard on ours. It will be nice when we finally have the luxory of giving our freshman a handful of minutes a game. Offline Obviously we need as many good players as we can find and I'm encouraged by our recent committment .That being said, I think Coulter is out of gas.Before the URI game had had already played 831 min which probably means he's over 1000 at this point. Thats a lot for a freshman. It's hard to understand how playing as a starter in two games per week causes a kid to run out of gas. Freshman or otherwise, this is not a physical strain, of course. Is it a mental or emotionally strain? It's only a strain when confidence is lacking. Offline Can we just forfeit the rest of the season so we don't have to suffer these types of embarrassing losses? Offline Anyone know why Abele was suspended for the game? Offline These freshman got thrown into 'adversity bigtime' right from the start of the season -- with a supporting cast that lacked physiclal presence in a league that has plenty. The freshman for the most part did as well as can be expected from youngsters. The seniors for the most part were missing in action except that Marhold began to show some talent toward the end. However it was too little, too late. Offline There isn't a frontcourt player who should even get major minutes on this team. The guards are wretched: can't shoot, create their own shot or mkae free throws. Offline Wow. If your last 2 posts are indicative of how you feel about the team I'm not sure where you emotionally go from here. I agree its been a mostly horrible 30 years, but I would think the play of the 3 freshmen and the addition of 3 6'8 kids should be cause for a little cautious optimism. If not your looking at another lost decade. Not a good place to be. Offline Next year, we'll have three sophomores and three first-year players who will mkae up hhe core the team. There should be two seniors on next year's team: Jones and Abele, and neither is any more than a bench player. Offline Negativity breeds negativity. If you think negative thoughts all day long, your life will tend to embrace the negativity. Not a basketball post, just something to try and help some of my fellow human beings out. BTW, Duquesne basketball is definitely on the rise. I couldn't be more excited about our future. There I've legitimized the post with a BBall comment. Offline Next year, we'll have three sophomores and three first-year players who will mkae up hhe core the team. There should be two seniors on next year's team: Jones and Abele, and neither is any more than a bench player. Ummmmm, Soko?
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dukesfan86 wrote:
Clearly, there was no fatigue seen in Colter or the other young
guys when they came out for the second half.
This season has been a disaster, but things can turn around next year. Time away should heal bad vibes.
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What a poathethic group. And there is no reason this is going to improve next year.
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Can the freshman improve? If they get help from newcomers [Watkins, Robinson and Ovie Soko], it can be a whole new ball game. Then you might have some inside options - discouraging opponents from pushing outside the arc and taking away the easy 3-pointers. Then the guard play would become more effective.
Badly needed depth can be realized if Abele and Martin can make room for several more scholarships.
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If you think things will improve next season, you are dillusional. We are back to the Darrelle Porter era.
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What also bugs me is that this team hasn't significantly improved in any area. That, I believe, falls to coaching. I'm not soured on Ferry yet, but even the win over Temple was more of a fluke as they lost an 8-point lead in the final 2 minutes. Only to win on a foul call that was at best, a stupid play by Temple.
. By then, the A-10 will have probably asked us to leave.
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What also bugs me is that this team hasn't significantly improved in any area. That, I believe, falls to coaching. I'm not soured on Ferry yet, but even the win over Temple was more of a fluke as they lost an 8-point lead in the final 2 minutes. Only to win on a foul call that was at best, a stupid play by Temple.
. By then, the A-10 will have probably asked us to leave.