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12/02/2022 10:52 pm  #1


Game Thread - Ball State University Cardinals

2:00pm EST tip on Saturday 12/3/2022 at the UPMC Cooper Fieldhouse, Pittsburgh, PA

Duquesne Virtual Game Program:  https://indd.adobe.com/view/bf7aaac4-339e-467b-86d4-f4867a699cd3

Per KenPom (363 D-1 Teams):
Dukes #111 (6-1) vs Ball State Cardinals #213 (4-3; 2-3 vs. D-1)
Game prediction: Dukes win by 9, 76-67 - Dukes with 80% probability of a win.
https://kenpom.com/gameprep.php?g=1385

Per Haslametrics:
Dukes #106 vs Ball St #193
Game prediction:  Dukes win by 8, 76.20-68.04
https://haslametrics.com/preview.php?yr=&tid1=4123&tid2=4391&neut=0

Betting line: Dukes are 9 point favorites; Over/Under 143
Duquesne 4-3 Against the Spread: Ball St 2-3 ATS

Duquesne Game Notes: https://goduquesne.com/news/2022/12/2/mens-basketball-preview-duquesne-vs-ball-state.aspx
Ball St Game Notes: https://ballstatesports.com/news/2022/12/2/mens-basketball-ball-state-hits-the-road-for-saturday-showdown-with-duquesne.aspx

Sports Reference College Basketball Team Pages:
Duquesne:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/duquesne/2023.html
Ball St:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/ball-state/2023.html

Dukes KenPom Best Wins: Colgate (115); UCSB (121); North Florida (223)
Dukes KenPom Worst Losses: Kentucky (6)
Ball St KenPom Best Wins: Missouri St. (118); Nebraska Omaha (303)
Ball St KenPom Worst Losses: San Jose St (203); Vermont (185)

Shooting Percentage Offense/Defense (per KenPom)
Dukes 3 Point:  Offense 38.5%, 37 in D-1; Defense 38.5%, 317 in D-1
Ball St 3 Point:  Offense 35.2%, 112 in D-1; Defense 34.9%, 227 in D-1
Dukes 2 Point:  Offense 52.7%, 95 in D-1; Defense 45.4%, 62 in D-1
Ball St 2 Point:  Offense 47.5%, 243 in D-1; Defense 52.0%, 246n D-1
Dukes FT:  Offense 64.8%, 305 in D-1; Defense 69.8%, 165 in D-1
Ball St FT:  Offense 66.7%, 266 in D-1; Defense 68.5%, 128 in D-1

Points per Possession and Number of Possessions (per KenPom)
Ball St Adj Offense Efficiency - 101.6; 172 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Defense Efficiency - 102.1; 174 in D-1
Ball St Adj Defense Efficiency - 105.2; 259 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Offense Efficiency - 107.5; 64 in D-1
Ball St Adj Tempo - 68.3; 164 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Tempo - 66.7; 239 in D-1

Miscellaneous (per KenPom)
D-1 Experience - Ball St 2.23 yrs; 113 in D-1; Dukes 2.05 yrs; 146 in D-1
Average Height - Ball St 77.1"; 180 in D-1; Dukes 76.5"; 278 in D-1

 

12/03/2022 9:01 am  #2


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Go Dukes!

 

12/03/2022 1:06 pm  #3


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     Thread Starter
 

12/03/2022 4:05 pm  #4


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No worries.

 

12/03/2022 4:06 pm  #5


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GREAT BALLS OF FIRE --  This Finish was CRAZY --  WAY TO GO CLARKIII

 

12/03/2022 4:06 pm  #6


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😳

 

12/03/2022 4:08 pm  #7


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This whole game had upset written all over it, but that last shot was fantastic!
 

 

12/03/2022 4:12 pm  #8


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That was one of the worst officiated games I have ever watched. Would have been even worse if we didn’t walk away with the win! What a thriller!

 

12/03/2022 4:29 pm  #9


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CityDuke wrote:

That was one of the worst officiated games I have ever watched. Would have been even worse if we didn’t walk away with the win! What a thriller!

I agree. They took the 3 pointer away from us on an inadvertent whistle?  I was thinking at that point, watch us need that 3 points at the end of the game.

 

12/03/2022 4:52 pm  #10


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I love the poise, togetherness & maturity of this team! It is thrilling to see their positive attitude & winning ways create some good fortune.

If you aren't pumped about/for Rotroff, you aren't alive!

Grant was out of rhythm because of foul trouble and because humans don't shoot .55/.56/.90 for an entire season.

I think Ball State would finish somewhere between 12th & 9th in the A-10.

Winning this game despite missing Reese & an unhealthy amount of foul trouble against a hot-shooting, quality opponent has me very impressed.

The officiating was incredibly poor. I don't think one team benefitted disproportionately but, the refs were historically bad.

The perimeter defense needs work. The continued high shooting percentages by opponents from 3 is not a coincidence. I think too much is being asked of Williams to challenge deep shots while avoiding fouls, the two little point guards don't provide enough resistance, & the weakside help is dropping too deep in the paint. 

 

12/03/2022 4:53 pm  #11


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NapaDuke wrote:

CityDuke wrote:

That was one of the worst officiated games I have ever watched. Would have been even worse if we didn’t walk away with the win! What a thriller!

I agree. They took the 3 pointer away from us on an inadvertent whistle?  I was thinking at that point, watch us need that 3 points at the end of the game.

That was the worst of many bad calls. Phantom fouls, blocking calls on charges and vice versa. Kudos to the shooter and the coach for not getting a "T" after the 3-pointer was taken away.
 

 

12/03/2022 5:17 pm  #12


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Indeed, the Great Ghost in Alive!!!!  This is the second time the Great Ghost has interceded for a Dukes W--Tevin Brewer's runner in the lane and Jimmy Clark's prayer that was answered.  An ESPN top tenner if I ever saw one!  

Last edited by grammudder (12/03/2022 5:18 pm)

 

12/03/2022 5:34 pm  #13


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Lordy, Lordy, Lordy. We scored 11 points or so in the first 10 minutes but came back to close the half in good shape. Dae Dae having a not so Dae Dae game. The second half just see-sawed back and forth once we caught up. Yeah, taking away the 3 sucked big-time. In the end, Mr. Grant comes through. He ball faked 3 times then let fly. From our angle the shot was dead-on. Swish. Loved it.


SORRY, WE ARE BACK TO THE GROUND FLOOR....
 

12/03/2022 5:40 pm  #14


 

12/03/2022 6:23 pm  #15


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Unbelievable win,best finish for Duquesne in 40 years.

 

12/03/2022 6:31 pm  #16


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KenOTR73 wrote:

Lordy, Lordy, Lordy. We scored 11 points or so in the first 10 minutes but came back to close the half in good shape. Dae Dae having a not so Dae Dae game. The second half just see-sawed back and forth once we caught up. Yeah, taking away the 3 sucked big-time. In the end, Mr. Grant comes through. He ball faked 3 times then let fly. From our angle the shot was dead-on. Swish. Loved it.

My bad. It was Clark!
 


SORRY, WE ARE BACK TO THE GROUND FLOOR....
 

12/03/2022 6:54 pm  #17


 

12/03/2022 7:05 pm  #18


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Amazing finish!
The refs were bad but I’m glad they missed Clark traveling pretty plainly on his 3 to win.


COFFEE
http://duquesnesports.blogspot.com/
Attitude is everything
 

12/03/2022 7:40 pm  #19


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It was a lot of fun to be at Cooper Fieldhouse today!

Good teams win these kind of games, teams that compete for championships. We're a long, long way from that at this point, but it's sure nice to take a step in that direction. 

 

12/03/2022 7:43 pm  #20


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I've always said, if you can't by 2 or more, win by 1.

 

12/03/2022 8:26 pm  #21


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This was a great win even if it wasn’t against a great team.  I’m not going to lie, I definitely was thinking in the first half “here we go again.” Even with a relatively young team nobody panicked though. They kept playing Duquesne basketball, ate away at the lead, and got clutch finishes to both halves.

This team is clearly our most talented in quite some time, but it also may be our most mature. They love playing together and have bought in to Dambrot’s defense first philosophy. Without that maturity, dedication, and contributions from all nine guys we don’t pull this one out. Overcoming injuries, foul trouble, poor officiating (although it probably helped us as much as it hurt), and an off game from our best player (I’m hoping it was just an off game and Grant isn’t sick or hurt) to get a W is a great sign for this team. You could tell how much both teams wanted this one, but good teams find ways to win even when they don’t have their A game and that’s exactly what the Dukes did today.

Last edited by luckymcd (12/03/2022 8:27 pm)

 

12/03/2022 8:28 pm  #22


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Fantastic win. Thanks Mr Clarke that was an amazing shot.
Too many times those buzzer beaters destroy us.
So satisfying to win one of our own.
When Grant has an off night and we get others to step up and win it’s a good sign.
Kudos to coach Dambrot and staff to manage the foul trouble very effectively.
Reece looked pretty good in warm ups and we definitely need his help going forward.
I love the energy from the crowd and students  really into an entertaining and nail biting game! First time this year (hopefully not the last) we heard the loud”Let’s Go Dukes Chant”
All I can say is after many years I can honestly say
“It’s great to be a Dukes Fan”

Last edited by Motor (12/03/2022 8:34 pm)

 

12/03/2022 10:55 pm  #23


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Was a great day at the Coop! Lots of fun. Great one to win. Still a few too many open looks against us but hopefully that can be tightened up. I did not expect us to be 7-1. Actually could easily be 5-3. Hopefully this year will be the start of a great run for the Dukes. Three freshmen on the floor together for a stretch.

Last edited by El Presidente (12/03/2022 10:56 pm)

 

12/03/2022 11:10 pm  #24


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The box score had the official attendance at 2012 today. Does anyone who was there think that is accurate?

Last edited by El Presidente (12/03/2022 11:14 pm)

 

12/04/2022 6:59 am  #25


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El Presidente wrote:

The box score had the official attendance at 2012 today. Does anyone who was there think that is accurate?

El-Pres 2,000 seems about right but it sounded like 4😜
Hoping for a larger turnout  against an excellent 8-1 Marshal team. I’m sure they will bring a contingent of fans.
Go Dukes!

 

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