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1/17/2023 4:32 pm  #1


Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

7:00pm EST tip on Wednesday 01/18/2023 at the Reilly Center, Olean, NY

Per KenPom (363 D-1 Teams):
Dukes #104 (13-5; 3-2 A10) vs Saint Bonaventure Bonnies #155 (9-9; 3-2 A-10)
Game prediction: Dukes win by 1, 71-70 - Dukes with a 50% probability of a win.
https://kenpom.com/gameprep.php?g=3370

Per Haslametrics:
Dukes #88 vs Saint Bonaventure #155
Game prediction:  Dukes win by 2, 70.41-67.94
https://haslametrics.com/preview.php?yr=&tid1=4391&tid2=381&neut=0

Betting line: Dukes are 1½ point favorites; Over/Under 140½
Duquesne 11-7 Against the Spread: Saint Bonaventure 11-7 ATS

Duquesne Game Notes: https://goduquesne.com/news/2023/1/17/mens-basketball-preview-duquesne-at-st-bonaventure.aspx
Saint Bonaventure Game Notes: https://gobonnies.com/news/2023/1/17/mens-basketball-plays-host-to-duquesne-wednesday-night.aspx

Sports Reference College Basketball Team Pages:
Duquesne:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/duquesne/2023.html
Saint Bonaventure:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/st-bonaventure/2023.html

Dukes KenPom Best Wins: VCU (93); UCSB (94); Indiana St. (111); Colgate (116); DePaul (136); Ball State (138)
Dukes KenPom Worst Losses: New Mexico St (166); Richmond (102); Marshall (72); Dayton (50); Kentucky (34) 
Saint Bonaventure KenPom Best Wins: Richmond (102); George Mason (120); Middle Tennessee (128); Notre Dame (130)
Saint Bonaventure KenPom Worst Losses: Canisius (270); Buffalo (216); Rhode Island (212)

Shooting Percentage Offense/Defense (per KenPom)
Dukes 3 Point:  Offense 38.1%, 23 in D-1; Defense 35.3%, 265 in D-1
Saint Bonaventure 3 Point:  Offense 34.8%, 128 in D-1; Defense 28.9%, 16 in D-1
Dukes 2 Point:  Offense 48.9%, 219 in D-1; Defense 47.6%, 102 in D-1
Saint Bonaventure 2 Point:  Offense 47.6%, 268 in D-1; Defense 51.0%, 219 in D-1
Dukes FT:  Offense 68.8%, 251 in D-1; Defense 70.0%, 134 in D-1
Saint Bonaventure FT:  Offense 70.0%, 214 in D-1; Defense 71.8%, 223 in D-1

Points per Possession and Number of Possessions (per KenPom)
Saint Bonaventure Adj Offense Efficiency - 103.0; 193 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Defense Efficiency - 105.3; 213 in D-1
Saint Bonaventure Adj Defense Efficiency - 102.0; 132 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Offense Efficiency - 111.3; 51 in D-1
Saint Bonaventure Adj Tempo - 65.8; 277 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Tempo - 67.3; 210 in D-1

Miscellaneous (per KenPom)
D-1 Experience - Saint Bonaventure 1.78 yrs; 207 in D-1; Dukes 2.07 yrs; 149 in D-1
Average Height - Saint Bonaventure 77.0"; 190 in D-1; Dukes 76.2"; 317 in D-1

 

1/17/2023 5:59 pm  #2


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

PR good job as always. Surprised at the point spread as to the Dukes are the favorites. Unfortunately, at Bonnie’s home court the  crowd will influence the referees. The Dukes will be facing the 70’s Philly Flyers or an MMA cage match. Inevitable….Hopefully, a Duquesne player will avoid a serious injury. If Dambrot sees a Richmond repeat I hope he purposely takes a double technical. While he is escorted to the locker room I hope he raises his middle finger to the Bonnie’s fans & A10 officials. This may ensure a win down the road at the Cooper Center. Unfortunately, I see a hockey game. Bonnies(Flyers) vs. Dukes(Russian all stars. Hopefully, I am wrong and the most talented team, Dukes get a big win on the road. Coach Dambrot you may need to go Gene Hackman👍

 

1/17/2023 6:24 pm  #3


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

Ironduke81 wrote:

PR good job as always. Surprised at the point spread as to the Dukes are the favorites. Unfortunately, at Bonnie’s home court the crowd will influence the referees. The Dukes will be facing the 70’s Philly Flyers or an MMA cage match. Inevitable….Hopefully, a Duquesne player will avoid a serious injury. If Dambrot sees a Richmond repeat I hope he purposely takes a double technical. While he is escorted to the locker room I hope he raises his middle finger to the Bonnie’s fans & A10 officials. This may ensure a win down the road at the Cooper Center. Unfortunately, I see a hockey game. Bonnies(Flyers) vs. Dukes(Russian all stars. Hopefully, I am wrong and the most talented team, Dukes get a big win on the road. Coach Dambrot you may need to go Gene Hackman👍

Thanks, Ironduke81.  If you look at this game objectively, the line makes sense.  But there is nothing objective about playing in Olean.  I'm still pissed from that game up there in 2011 where the Dukes had their 8 game conference opening winning streak snapped. TJ McConnell stole the inbounds pass (right in front of the Bonnies student section) with less than 10 seconds left in the game, but the refs called a phantom travel. Of course, the Bonnies then hit a 3 to win the game. Hoping this trip will be different for the Dukes.

     Thread Starter
 

1/18/2023 10:36 am  #4


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PhoenixRising2 wrote:

Thanks, Ironduke81.  If you look at this game objectively, the line makes sense.  But there is nothing objective about playing in Olean.  I'm still pissed from that game up there in 2011 where the Dukes had their 8 game conference opening winning streak snapped. TJ McConnell stole the inbounds pass (right in front of the Bonnies student section) with less than 10 seconds left in the game, but the refs called a phantom travel. Of course, the Bonnies then hit a 3 to win the game. Hoping this trip will be different for the Dukes.

That game still stings. I think Davenport hit the three. No, I KNOW it was Davenport. Only thing I know about that kid.

 

1/18/2023 11:07 am  #5


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

PhoenixRising2 wrote:

Ironduke81 wrote:

PR good job as always. Surprised at the point spread as to the Dukes are the favorites. Unfortunately, at Bonnie’s home court the crowd will influence the referees. The Dukes will be facing the 70’s Philly Flyers or an MMA cage match. Inevitable….Hopefully, a Duquesne player will avoid a serious injury. If Dambrot sees a Richmond repeat I hope he purposely takes a double technical. While he is escorted to the locker room I hope he raises his middle finger to the Bonnie’s fans & A10 officials. This may ensure a win down the road at the Cooper Center. Unfortunately, I see a hockey game. Bonnies(Flyers) vs. Dukes(Russian all stars. Hopefully, I am wrong and the most talented team, Dukes get a big win on the road. Coach Dambrot you may need to go Gene Hackman👍

Thanks, Ironduke81.  If you look at this game objectively, the line makes sense.  But there is nothing objective about playing in Olean.  I'm still pissed from that game up there in 2011 where the Dukes had their 8 game conference opening winning streak snapped. TJ McConnell stole the inbounds pass (right in front of the Bonnies student section) with less than 10 seconds left in the game, but the refs called a phantom travel. Of course, the Bonnies then hit a 3 to win the game. Hoping this trip will be different for the Dukes.

That was one of the most blatant homer jobs of all time. The calls went against the Dukes for the last 8-10 minutes. It wasn't a phantom travel, TJ was shoved hard. The Bonnie faithful seated with me were alternating between laughing at the refs' obvious bias & chastising me for selling out my hometown team in favor of the Dukes.

I too retain my rage over that loss.

 

1/18/2023 11:29 am  #6


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

Big BIG game tonight IMO, gigantic!   Win and we are up in the top 4, and we have 5 of the next 7 at home.   Could really put pressure on Dayton, yes, I said it, I know they beat us, be we are currently 1 game behind them in the L column, and dont play them again.   Beating St Bona would provide a real wind in our sails too, us as fans know what its been like vs them over the years.   Winning up there would be fantastic, and might spark some local interest, campus interest, for the upcoming home games.   Hope we can beat the piss out them tonight.   That said, I kinda like SB and the 1+.   :-)))

 

1/18/2023 12:28 pm  #7


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

I would feel a lot better if I knew Tre was playing tonight.  If the perimeter shooting is cold we need to be able to score consistently inside and having Tre complement Big Joe underneath is a must.  I know Rotroff and Dixon have been good filling the rim in spots but having an experienced scorer taking the high percentage shots in that environment is huge, 

I keep fighting the instinct to lock the office door, get in the car, and head up I 79!  I could get a nice dinner in Olean and head over to the game.  There is still time!  Tonight should be an epic battle.  Both teams fighting to solidify their identity in the league.  And for those that have never been - a Bonnies game in Olean is bucket list stuff.  The whole town is there and it seems like they all know each other.  And they all are rabid SBU fans

 

1/18/2023 12:41 pm  #8


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

I'll be at the women's game tonight, Styles1229, but sure wish that I was on the road to Olean for a cheeseburger at The Burton before a Dukes win.  It will be a fun ride home afterwards, that's for sure.  I'm VERY confident in a Dukes win tonight!  

 

1/18/2023 1:20 pm  #9


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

My belief is that tonight could define the rest of the season.    A win, and the Dukes have turned the corner.  A loss and other concerns of same old same old may surface.   Up to the defense!!!  Come on Duquesne!!!!

 

1/18/2023 1:22 pm  #10


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

Williams, and the team, took some photos on MLK Day, he still had the bandage over his eye.  He must really have been busted open.   

 

1/18/2023 1:24 pm  #11


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

This thread is getting me super pumped for this game tonight.
 

 

1/18/2023 7:20 pm  #12


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

rosceaux wrote:

This thread is getting me super pumped for this game tonight.
 

I was pumped also but I've got a major leak and am almost deflated.

 

1/18/2023 7:24 pm  #13


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

And people wonder why attendance at home games is lacking. Who would want to show up and watch this team, that’s disappointed for decades, and does so again today. 

 

1/18/2023 7:28 pm  #14


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

I’ve seen this show before.

 

1/18/2023 7:28 pm  #15


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This first 11 minutes & the constant player turnover are why I think KD is a subpar coach that is not capable of taking the program to the top of the league on a consistent basis. 

He's done well building the program from the abyss & been outstanding on the recruiting trail. Unfortunately, his incredibly predictable offense with very few wrinkles & one-trick-pony defensive philosophy are regularly crushed by well coached A-10 teams.

This team has proven to be resilient & tough. They may just win this one but they will do so having started out at a major tactical disadvantage.

 

1/18/2023 7:31 pm  #16


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

Oh my oh my oh my

 

1/18/2023 7:32 pm  #17


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

Bonnies D is tenacious. 

 

1/18/2023 7:35 pm  #18


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

Teams have the most wide open 3 pt shots against KD’s brilliant man 2 man defense.

Old blue shoes sets up camp in the paint.  He doesnt move and refs dont care. 

Keep Reece on the bench!

Last edited by townsonkid (1/18/2023 7:52 pm)

 

1/18/2023 7:44 pm  #19


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

We’ll win this game. We have shown to struggle when the refs let a physical game be played (on one end at least). Meanwhile, we are getting called for handcheck on our end, but I digress. We have adjusted, and I like our chances moving forward.

 

1/18/2023 7:48 pm  #20


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

We have seen too clearly that "It ain't over till it's over."

 

1/18/2023 7:50 pm  #21


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

WashPaRick wrote:

Bonnies D is tenacious. 

Their scouting & implementation has bee excellent for tonight's game. I watch most of their games & while they are generally quite good defensively, this is not a scheme I have seen them use this season.

On top of that, yes 100%, they have been ferocious & controlled.

 

1/18/2023 7:55 pm  #22


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

DuqLaw95 wrote:

And people wonder why attendance at home games is lacking. Who would want to show up and watch this team, that’s disappointed for decades, and does so again today. 

 


Then why are you watching?

 

1/18/2023 7:57 pm  #23


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

phil95 wrote:

This first 11 minutes & the constant player turnover are why I think KD is a subpar coach that is not capable of taking the program to the top of the league on a consistent basis. 

He's done well building the program from the abyss & been outstanding on the recruiting trail. Unfortunately, his incredibly predictable offense with very few wrinkles & one-trick-pony defensive philosophy are regularly crushed by well coached A-10 teams.

This team has proven to be resilient & tough. They may just win this one but they will do so having started out at a major tactical disadvantage.

KD, half-court is laying an egg. Pre-game the announcers talked about the Dukes high scoring running high presser style, but KD with a week off, just instructed this team to play low scoring dumb-down basketball. We are playing into the strength of St.B.  No presser inbound and no presser up the court, and no transition to the hoop by the Dukes. 13-5 start means nothing if you can't beat a middle of the road A-10 team with this much talent. This first half was a joke. This is all KD.

 

1/18/2023 7:59 pm  #24


Re: Game Thread - St. Bonaventure University Bonnies (A)

phil95 wrote:

WashPaRick wrote:

Bonnies D is tenacious. 

Their scouting & implementation has bee excellent for tonight's game. I watch most of their games & while they are generally quite good defensively, this is not a scheme I have seen them use this season.

On top of that, yes 100%, they have been ferocious & controlled.

A 9-9 team isn't that good, but KD's half court is worse. It's sad to watch so much running talent stand still like this.

 

1/18/2023 8:00 pm  #25


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CityDuke wrote:

We’ll win this game. We have shown to struggle when the refs let a physical game be played (on one end at least). Meanwhile, we are getting called for handcheck on our end, but I digress. We have adjusted, and I like our chances moving forward.

I promise am not trying to pick a fight. The officiating has nothing to do with the current score. 

I am appalled with the unthinking defense that Dae Dae, Clark, Gunn, & Reece are playing this far into their careers & this season. I think we can now also expect to see a steady diet of our PGs being driven around & through by smart A-10 opponents. Those 2 are just getting out-physicalled.

KD  has the deepest bench in the league. HOW ABOUT PRESSING TO SHOW THE BONNIES A DIFFERENT LOOK!!!! Heaven forbid they play zone for a few possessions.

 

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