Anyone catch it?

If that's the case it's over! Duquesne has everything going for it. Forget the past live in the presence it's about market share. What happens when butlers or vcu coaches move on.I really can't believe GA can't deliver.  At this point forget wins & losses lack of student support etc.Duquesne must be part of this conference sell the schools naming rights. This league means tv dollars prestige & national recognition. Not currently a GA fan but I would build him a statue to get this done!

CLK wrote:

Mike DeCourcy said that the 7 teams most likely would not get the Big East name, and are really nothing special by themselves.  Adding Butler, Xavier and depending on the ultimate size of the league a few more strong programs would bolster their chance at a TV contract.  Only one question about DU.  Stan asked if the Pittsburgh market was a strong enough draw to get DU an invite.  Mike DeCourcy said that because DU basketball history was so bad they most likely would not get serious consideration.  Thanks again Dr. Murray.

I have known DeCourcy's work for a long time, since he was a local writer covering who else, but Pitt. He is a Pitt fan, and has been very supportive of their program. He has had a long-standing dislike for Duquesne going back to the days when they used to kick Pitt's ass.  I would expect him to react exactly as he did to that question.  He wouldn't want to see anything good happen to Duquesne basketball,  he kind of enoys that fact the Pitt controls the town from a basketball perspective.  Legitimizing the Duquesne program is the last thing that he wants to see.

I think that NY Post article gave most of us some hope that we had a shot. But realistically I do not we believe we do either.

I'm sorry but I am not the optomist that some people all. I truly believe that if the top 4 or 5 leave, the A10 splinters apart and us and Bonas go to some other league together.

My faith is exhausted that DU can pull a miracle out of its hat now or win in the future in any league based on the leadership we have witnessed. They will always have some excuse, some thing to blame and some coach to fire.

They had 35 years to develop a plan and execute it.   They couldn't do it.  I doubt if they will in the future either.

I think he will get back in the groove, hopefully againt LL.  Kadeem just needs to relax, and enjoy playing like he was back on the playground. He said on a recent interview he thinks too much.

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CLK wrote:

At this point I am not very optimistic about Duquesne's chances of being invited.  There is a lot of posuring and speculation all centering on Xavier, Butler, SLU, Dayton & VCU.  I hope Dr. D and Amodio can pull a rabbit out of their hat, but listening to Amodio's interview on Wednesday there was nothing to give any indication we are in the mix.  Just the opposite.  Just my read of the interview.  If the remaining A10 teams hold together it will be greatly weaken. 

Here is an Andy Katz artictle on the League.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8770316/with-catholic-7-looming-atlantic-10-braces-impact-college-basketball

I feel it makes better sense for the 7 to join the A10. Based on the media markets already in place, New York, Pittsburgh, Cincinnatti, Philadelphia, Washington D.C. and then add Chicago if they come. Like Katz said, they would have to create an office, hire staff, negotiate a TV contract, etc... This is all in place, and if they would join it becomes what the Big East was, a power house for BB. 2 divisions with probably 6 to 7 at large bids into the tourney. Also I would like to see George Mason added which would make the number of schools even in both divisions.

On a side note, again, no transparancy from GA.

Last edited by Scotchngars (12/22/2012 3:31 am)

Scotchngars wrote:

CLK wrote:

At this point I am not very optimistic about Duquesne's chances of being invited.  There is a lot of posuring and speculation all centering on Xavier, Butler, SLU, Dayton & VCU.  I hope Dr. D and Amodio can pull a rabbit out of their hat, but listening to Amodio's interview on Wednesday there was nothing to give any indication we are in the mix.  Just the opposite.  Just my read of the interview.  If the remaining A10 teams hold together it will be greatly weaken. 

Here is an Andy Katz artictle on the League.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8770316/with-catholic-7-looming-atlantic-10-braces-impact-college-basketball

I feel it makes better sense for the 7 to join the A10. Based on the media markets already in place, New York, Pittsburgh, Cincinnatti, Philadelphia, Washington D.C. and then add Chicago if they come. Like Katz said, they would have to create an office, hire staff, negotiate a TV contract, etc... This is all in place, and if they would join it becomes what the Big East was, a power house for BB. 2 divisions with probably 6 to 7 at large bids into the tourney. Also I would like to see George Mason added which would make the number of schools even in both divisions.

On a side note, again, no transparancy from GA.

What is GA supposed to do, run his mouth? None of the other A10 ADs is running his mouth. The problem is that Villanova, St. John's Georgetown, etc., don't want to be in a league with us, and our long suffering friends, nor do they want to share their markets, plus they want to run the league. The only way we get in a league with them, is if tv tells them they need the Pittsburgh market. That's it.

Duq81 tell me how this works please.Dr. D has spent the money made the improvements and ofcourse pulled the trigger on RE based on GAs recommendation. Coach Ferry to his credit gets a lifetime contract.Get an AD that can deliver Duquesne to the new Catholic league. No excuses forget the past sell Duquesne on all the positives no need to repeat.the poaitives.If I mean when Duquesne is left out the blame game will begin with Hogan Murray past coaches Colleary Alumni Students & yes Charlie.  The new a-10 means the end of basketball at Duquesne dont accept the excuses Duqu81 its for losers. l

duq81 wrote:

Scotchngars wrote:

CLK wrote:

At this point I am not very optimistic about Duquesne's chances of being invited.  There is a lot of posuring and speculation all centering on Xavier, Butler, SLU, Dayton & VCU.  I hope Dr. D and Amodio can pull a rabbit out of their hat, but listening to Amodio's interview on Wednesday there was nothing to give any indication we are in the mix.  Just the opposite.  Just my read of the interview.  If the remaining A10 teams hold together it will be greatly weaken. 

Here is an Andy Katz artictle on the League.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8770316/with-catholic-7-looming-atlantic-10-braces-impact-college-basketball

I feel it makes better sense for the 7 to join the A10. Based on the media markets already in place, New York, Pittsburgh, Cincinnatti, Philadelphia, Washington D.C. and then add Chicago if they come. Like Katz said, they would have to create an office, hire staff, negotiate a TV contract, etc... This is all in place, and if they would join it becomes what the Big East was, a power house for BB. 2 divisions with probably 6 to 7 at large bids into the tourney. Also I would like to see George Mason added which would make the number of schools even in both divisions.

On a side note, again, no transparancy from GA.

What is GA supposed to do, run his mouth? None of the other A10 ADs is running his mouth. The problem is that Villanova, St. John's Georgetown, etc., don't want to be in a league with us, and our long suffering friends, nor do they want to share their markets, plus they want to run the league. The only way we get in a league with them, is if tv tells them they need the Pittsburgh market. That's it.

Butlers is, X is,

CLK wrote:

The AD's may not make the ultimate decision but they are absolutely at work behind the scenes jockying for position.  Because of their relationships with the media they are using local media to sell their positions.  Amodio regrettably does not have that kind of relationship with the local media or we would be seeing stories about how DU has invested in its program..new exciting coach, great consol, Pittsburgh market, recent success, commitment to winning, sleeping giant, legacy includes a national championship and so on to deserve consideration in the new league.  It just seems to me Amodio is content to let others define DU.  Not say it would be an easy sell, or would ultimately result in an invitation but certainly someting you would like to see happening as a fan.

Agreed. Amodio does the one half time interview a year on the radio and that is all you hear from him.  He totally lets the media define Duquesne.  Excellent post!!!

duq81 wrote:

Scotchngars wrote:

duq81 wrote:

What is GA supposed to do, run his mouth? None of the other A10 ADs is running his mouth. The problem is that Villanova, St. John's Georgetown, etc., don't want to be in a league with us, and our long suffering friends, nor do they want to share their markets, plus they want to run the league. The only way we get in a league with them, is if tv tells them they need the Pittsburgh market. That's it.

Butlers is, X is,

Are you really comparing X and Butler to Duquesne? If we were what those two are, we would be at the top of the list. I have a novel concept, instead of trying to piggyback off of the success of other programs, how about Duquesne becoming one of the pillars of whatever league we're in. That way, instead of schools in other leagues sneering at us, and calling us garbage, and schools in our league wishing we would go away, we would be listed as a prime reason why our league (whatever it turns out to be), is so good. If Duquesne, and maybe, say LaSalle, start carrying own weight, all of a sudden, the A10 looks much better, even without the schools that will be leaving.

Not comparing just giving you an example of who is giving transparency. You said "what should Amodio do run his mouth". All I said is X is and Butler is, thats not comparing just an example.

As far as being a pillar, less the 6 years under RE, we are a stick in the mud, far from being a Pillar. So are you saying if the best leave we will be the best of the worst?

CLK wrote:

Len Robins of NY Post still mentions Duquesne in his article

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/game_of_name_in_big_east_split_Z8tWWS17CNrVQYweK2jPQK

Argh!!!  Don't do that to me again. Anyone know if the author went to DU???

While visions of The Big Priest Conference danced in their heads.

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