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11/17/2015 11:01 am  #51


Re: New Orleans Privateers

There was nothing in the first half that the Dukes did that any common sense viewer could or should dislike.  The second half was a drain on everyone because of the incessant whistle blowing by the three referees.  No sense of flow for either team.  The only reason UNO even got close to 20 was their desperation 3 point shots launched from somewhere on Forbes Avenue.  The defense is getting better and I believe it will get even better.  You can hear the coaches constantly yell to the players "Switch, Switch!" off their man-to-man defense.  The big men are learning to play defense with their feet as opposed to their hands as they were wont to do in the past.  Looking ahead to PSU, I'll be interested to see who they assign to match up with and guard Donovon Jack.  Jack has been known to step outside and fire threes.  

 

11/17/2015 11:26 am  #52


Re: New Orleans Privateers

Things I saw...
Steele was a bright spot
Lewis has trouble vs. guys his size
I am not upset over the second half...he played more guys and practiced a zone and different offensive sets
Foul shooting % wasn't that high but there really weren't any bricks that went up
Castro dribbles TOO Much
Friday will show us how much we have improved

 

11/17/2015 11:36 am  #53


Re: New Orleans Privateers

Did anyone see the new AD at the game last night, or last Friday?

 

11/17/2015 11:57 am  #54


Re: New Orleans Privateers

Yes.  At both games.  He circulates through the crowd talking to anyone who stops him.  He seemingly takes his time to listen to anyone talking to or with him.  He does not confine himself to the President's room.  I asked him to check the availability on the charter to Florida for the Thanksgiving  tournament .  He went out of his way to make contacts to try and get me an answer before I left the game.  I have or will have the answer by 1:00 today!!  He is a hands on guy!! I met with him and a group of grads and season ticket holders recently for about an hour and a half.  He knows the business of being an AD.  You will just have to trust me on this one.  We have a keeper in Harper.

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11/17/2015 12:40 pm  #55


Re: New Orleans Privateers

Take aways
- Im sorry but engery level in a 25 point game will go down after the second half. UNO probably got fired up because they got smoked in the first half. Duquesne knew they had the game in the bag, still kept the score above 15. Energy level won't drop when they are in a 1 point contrast with a real team.
- As for as the fan base....Blame the university for not bringing the team to the students more. I was there making fun of players all second half. Also we were playing freaking UNO on a Monday night during the end of the semester when all of our term papers are due. Im getting everyone to come to the pitt game, a lot of kids are excited.
- Castro hasn't played in a year and a half, hopefully he starts to produce. I don't think he fits into our system of playing fast but i do think he can be successful here
- Anyone see what happened with Jones and Mason. It looked like they were about to fight after a turn over. Other players had to separate them. The very next play Mason gets a steal and gives it Jones for the dunk. The two were smiling and fits bumping each other. This is what I love, and why I think this team will take the step this year. These 3 seniors have played a boat load of games together and are truly brothers.
- Still don't like LG taking 3s and not fighting down low with his new bigger frame 
- Mason and Sanders....love it
- I really hope Powell is in Friday. He gets caught up with the libertine stuff here, hopefully as he becomes a leader on the team hell stop that.

In general, not going to take to much from this game because of the other team. However, I do like what I see so far, this team will have fight this year. Also I do like the new AD, he really does walk around the arena and look to talk to people. 

I love my dukes


Roll Dukes Roll
 

11/17/2015 12:56 pm  #56


Re: New Orleans Privateers

currentstudent wrote:

Take aways
- Im sorry but engery level in a 25 point game will go down after the second half. UNO probably got fired up because they got smoked in the first half. Duquesne knew they had the game in the bag, still kept the score above 15. Energy level won't drop when they are in a 1 point contrast with a real team.
- As for as the fan base....Blame the university for not bringing the team to the students more. I was there making fun of players all second half. Also we were playing freaking UNO on a Monday night during the end of the semester when all of our term papers are due. Im getting everyone to come to the pitt game, a lot of kids are excited.
- Castro hasn't played in a year and a half, hopefully he starts to produce. I don't think he fits into our system of playing fast but i do think he can be successful here
- Anyone see what happened with Jones and Mason. It looked like they were about to fight after a turn over. Other players had to separate them. The very next play Mason gets a steal and gives it Jones for the dunk. The two were smiling and fits bumping each other. This is what I love, and why I think this team will take the step this year. These 3 seniors have played a boat load of games together and are truly brothers.
- Still don't like LG taking 3s and not fighting down low with his new bigger frame 
- Mason and Sanders....love it
- I really hope Powell is in Friday. He gets caught up with the libertine stuff here, hopefully as he becomes a leader on the team hell stop that.

In general, not going to take to much from this game because of the other team. However, I do like what I see so far, this team will have fight this year. Also I do like the new AD, he really does walk around the arena and look to talk to people. 

I love my dukes

As for the students, I understand that term papers are due, but something still should be done.  You obviously aren't the problem.  You are a hardcore fan.  The issue is that everyone goes to the Pitt game.  That's all our students care about.  Then we lose and no one comes again.  The Bobby Mo game and others should be just as packed.  Make Palumbo into the mad house it should be!


"You have to be realistic about these things."  - Logen Ninefingers
 

11/17/2015 1:02 pm  #57


Re: New Orleans Privateers

The Dome wrote:

Gents I don't believe Powell will be playing for a few more games.

 Like maybe 30 more games.

 

11/17/2015 1:19 pm  #58


Re: New Orleans Privateers

You always have a core of students who come to every game, graduate, and stay fans, but the number has been dwindling for decades and it seems to have really tanked during the Amodio era. I'd be interested why today's students don't attend games. In my era (late 1970s-1980), we had the non-interested NATs (non-athletic types) who didn't like any sports, the organic chem crowd (I always pick on the pharmacy guys, but anyone who had a "killer course" always used it as an excuse), a large commuter base that refused to be on campus after dark, and what I used to call "dorm lumps" -- the ones who sat in their rooms and watched Charlie's Angels, Laverne & Shirley or Columbo on their 12-inch B&W TVs while eating ZTA or Alpha Phi hoagie-sale fare. I was lucky freshman year to have a bunch of friends who went to every game, and later on when I worked for The Duke and enjoyed the courtside seats, dirty water dogs, Pepsi-flavored water, and the camaraderie of Pittsburgh sports reporters and radiomen (Russ Franke, Phil Axelrod, Myron Cope) at halftime. There usually were 3,000 plus in the old Civic Arena (many more for the Pitt game), and while the place always seemed empty the atmosphere was still good. The Playboys and Sheiks (social clubs from a bygone era) made a LOT of noise, often getting responses from opposing players and coaches (NO, BLEEP YOU ROLLIE), and having the great Mossie Murphy leading cheers was amazing.

I had been a fan of the program since earlier in the decade, having seen the Dukes on the regional NBC game of the week broadcasts. Seeing where the program is now is tough. Reading that student interest has become nil doesn't bode well for the future.

Ugh.

 

11/17/2015 1:20 pm  #59


Re: New Orleans Privateers

Hey levon, is this kid a goner at this point?

What the deuce, especially after he lit up the Ireland trip?!?!?!

 

11/17/2015 1:25 pm  #60


Re: New Orleans Privateers

"Anyone see what happened with Jones and Mason. It looked like they were about to fight after a turn over. Other players had to separate them. The very next play Mason gets a steal and gives it Jones for the dunk. The two were smiling and fits bumping each other. This is what I love, and why I think this team will take the step this year. These 3 seniors have played a boat load of games together and are truly brothers."

Actually, I did hear what happened as my seats are in a the front row within ear shot.  Jones said something to Mason about the foul he had just committed.  When they came down Mason said something back to him about it and Jones said to him (AND I PARAPHRASE),  On the foul line Jones said to him... I can't yell at you???  You can yell at me!   I can yell at you...I can tell you what you should/shouldn't have done. Who are you?  They then exchanged a few more words.  Mason was actually more offended and Jones wouldn't let him off the hook.  After the foul shot they went down and Mason made a 3 and Jones came back and cheered for him.  Next time down Mason passed off to Jones for his shot on a break and they gave each other a five smack on the hands.  It was an excellent interchange of two fellow athletes who care about the program and each other.  I saw nothing wrong with it.
 

Last edited by FAM (11/17/2015 1:26 pm)

 

11/17/2015 1:27 pm  #61


Re: New Orleans Privateers

CLK wrote:

duq81, because some folks are frustrated and disgusted with what this program has become does not make them haters.  Most like me are sick and tired of losing and hearing excuses.  If you look at this team objectively and point out the weaknesses that does not make you a hater.  We are all hoping that we have a breakout season and make the NIT.   

I'm not thinking of you guys when I mention haters. The haters never post after a win. They come around after a loss. None of these guys are posting now, but they'll be here immediately if we happen to lose to Penn State.
 

 

11/17/2015 1:31 pm  #62


Re: New Orleans Privateers

grammudder wrote:

Yes.  At both games.  He circulates through the crowd talking to anyone who stops him.  He seemingly takes his time to listen to anyone talking to or with him.  He does not confine himself to the President's room.  I asked him to check the availability on the charter to Florida for the Thanksgiving  tournament .  He went out of his way to make contacts to try and get me an answer before I left the game.  I have or will have the answer by 1:00 today!!  He is a hands on guy!! I met with him and a group of grads and season ticket holders recently for about an hour and a half.  He knows the business of being an AD.  You will just have to trust me on this one.  We have a keeper in Harper.

This is a welcome change.

 

11/17/2015 1:32 pm  #63


Re: New Orleans Privateers

FAM wrote:

"Anyone see what happened with Jones and Mason. It looked like they were about to fight after a turn over. Other players had to separate them. The very next play Mason gets a steal and gives it Jones for the dunk. The two were smiling and fits bumping each other. This is what I love, and why I think this team will take the step this year. These 3 seniors have played a boat load of games together and are truly brothers."

Actually, I did hear what happened as my seats are in a the front row within ear shot.  Jones said something to Mason about the foul he had just committed.  When they came down Mason said something back to him about it and Jones said to him (AND I PARAPHRASE),  On the foul line Jones said to him... I can't yell at you???  You can yell at me!   I can yell at you...I can tell you what you should/shouldn't have done. Who are you?  They then exchanged a few more words.  Mason was actually more offended and Jones wouldn't let him off the hook.  After the foul shot they went down and Mason made a 3 and Jones came back and cheered for him.  Next time down Mason passed off to Jones for his shot on a break and they gave each other a five smack on the hands.  It was an excellent interchange of two fellow athletes who care about the program and each other.  I saw nothing wrong with it.
 

Jones and Mason were the two who got into some minor trouble last year. Obviously they are pretty close. You can talk smack, and argue with guys when they know they actually care about you, and no one really gets offended. When guys don't like each other, then it becomes a problem.
 

 

11/17/2015 1:49 pm  #64


Re: New Orleans Privateers

ElDuque wrote:

You always have a core of students who come to every game, graduate, and stay fans, but the number has been dwindling for decades and it seems to have really tanked during the Amodio era. I'd be interested why today's students don't attend games. In my era (late 1970s-1980), we had the non-interested NATs (non-athletic types) who didn't like any sports, the organic chem crowd (I always pick on the pharmacy guys, but anyone who had a "killer course" always used it as an excuse), a large commuter base that refused to be on campus after dark, and what I used to call "dorm lumps" -- the ones who sat in their rooms and watched Charlie's Angels, Laverne & Shirley or Columbo on their 12-inch B&W TVs while eating ZTA or Alpha Phi hoagie-sale fare. I was lucky freshman year to have a bunch of friends who went to every game, and later on when I worked for The Duke and enjoyed the courtside seats, dirty water dogs, Pepsi-flavored water, and the camaraderie of Pittsburgh sports reporters and radiomen (Russ Franke, Phil Axelrod, Myron Cope) at halftime. There usually were 3,000 plus in the old Civic Arena (many more for the Pitt game), and while the place always seemed empty the atmosphere was still good. The Playboys and Sheiks (social clubs from a bygone era) made a LOT of noise, often getting responses from opposing players and coaches (NO, BLEEP YOU ROLLIE), and having the great Mossie Murphy leading cheers was amazing.

I had been a fan of the program since earlier in the decade, having seen the Dukes on the regional NBC game of the week broadcasts. Seeing where the program is now is tough. Reading that student interest has become nil doesn't bode well for the future.

Ugh.

When we were in school, Duquesne was still perceived as a major program. The struggles of the last 35 years, plus the rise of the Big East killed that. In Pittsburgh, if it wasn't the Big East, it was seen as garbage. The fact that we've largely been non competitive even at our level hasn't helped that perception. This town won't support a loser. The Bucs, and Pens played in front of a ton of empty seats when they didn't contend. You can't say about the Steelers, because they pretty much never suck. A down stretch for the Steelers means 8-8, and missing the playoffs by a game. I wonder what would happen if they strung 7-8 losing seasons together, with a 3-13 in there? It's easy to draw when you've been the most successful team in the league by pretty much every metric, since the merger. On the other hand, Duquesne playing NO on a Monday in December isn't really going to get the juices flowing.
 

 

11/17/2015 1:51 pm  #65


Re: New Orleans Privateers

I think I might talk to the new AD and see if I can help generate a student fan base. We could look at other schools from around the country and see which one would work for us.


Roll Dukes Roll
 

11/17/2015 3:06 pm  #66


Re: New Orleans Privateers

Watched the URI game and they have hundreds of students and the game was at 10 AM. URi plays a boring style of basketball. Atleast the dukes score and play a fast paced style. The students should show up while the team wins against these cupcake schools. Showing for the PITT game is useless cause that is the last game they will show up for. Hopefully the bring in a marketing person who can get fans to the game. Put a keg in the practice gym and maybe the students will show up. Don't get me wrong it's tough to show up to watch a losing team but not showing up just makes it harder for them to play.

Last edited by Steel city AJ (11/17/2015 10:23 pm)

 

11/17/2015 5:52 pm  #67


Re: New Orleans Privateers

duqkurt wrote:

grammudder wrote:

Yes.  At both games.  He circulates through the crowd talking to anyone who stops him.  He seemingly takes his time to listen to anyone talking to or with him.  He does not confine himself to the President's room.  I asked him to check the availability on the charter to Florida for the Thanksgiving  tournament .  He went out of his way to make contacts to try and get me an answer before I left the game.  I have or will have the answer by 1:00 today!!  He is a hands on guy!! I met with him and a group of grads and season ticket holders recently for about an hour and a half.  He knows the business of being an AD.  You will just have to trust me on this one.  We have a keeper in Harper.

This is a welcome change.

Dave Harper is a breath of fresh air for Duquesne; he knows what he is doing, he's personable and playing politics seems to be way down on his list of priorities. A yin to the previous guy's yang. I don't think that there was any mention of this on the board - for the women soccer team's NCAA match at WVU, a chartered bus was offered up to the Red and Blue Crew students at no charge - a free road trip.  Nice touch.
 

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11/17/2015 6:26 pm  #68


Re: New Orleans Privateers

Grandmudder and Phoenix's posts about the new AD are the most encouraging signs I see with the program.  It starts with building a rapport. 

I never posted this but I know one of the DU Olympic sports coaches from going to their games.   That coach told me the the former AD (after Harper was hired) never spoke to the student athletes even at their year end banquets.  And the student athletes always commented on it.  You can't run a program like that.   

This are finally changing.

 

11/18/2015 8:11 am  #69


Re: New Orleans Privateers

even though competition is suspect, i like that in the 3 games this year, the dukes have come out with a killer instinct. felt like we were always behind 8ball by 1st media timeout last year.
this year, they are coming out strong

 

11/18/2015 10:28 am  #70


Re: New Orleans Privateers

He said it once last game. A kid from NO checked in and Ray said "what's the boys number that just checked in." I noticed it when he said it but I don't think it's fair to label him a racist. The guy has been around forever and loves Duquesne basketball, black and white players alike. Lets relax a little bit.

 

11/18/2015 10:49 am  #71


Re: New Orleans Privateers

Dukes2012 wrote:

He said it once last game. A kid from NO checked in and Ray said "what's the boys number that just checked in." I noticed it when he said it but I don't think it's fair to label him a racist. The guy has been around forever and loves Duquesne basketball, black and white players alike. Lets relax a little bit.

I don't think it would be a good idea to fire Ray Goss.  Here is a guy who has been calling the games for quite some time.  He has earned the right to decide when enough is enough.
 

 

11/18/2015 10:56 am  #72


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It should be the New Ad's decision, he doesn't run the athletic dept, so why should it be his decision to step down. If he's not doing a good job then he should be replaced. 

 

11/18/2015 11:57 am  #73


Re: New Orleans Privateers

hulahooper wrote:

Ray goss and JD are awful to listen to on the webcasts. They announce on the radio and on the webcasts and they have no clue that they are on the web casts too. "24 foot three for colder" Mean while his foot is right behind the arc which would make it a 22 foot three. I don't understand how he can't pronounce C-O-L-T-E-R. and now we have JD who calls darius lewis Damian lewis.. I don't know what he's smoking but the only Damian this team had was from about 7 years ago. Ray calls the african american players coming in the game "boy" if you don't think thats racist then I don't know what to say, while JD is next to him. The school needs to create a new brand, and it should start with getting rid of these 2 clowns. Put B-Mac on the radio along with Bob Healey.. will do a a way better job. "Wide open 25 foot three" while the other team blocks the shot and dunks it on on the other end. Unbelievable

Ray has always referred to players as boys. Nothing racist about it. Ray is deep into his 70s, so from his perspective, 18 to 22 year olds are boys. The racist use of the word boy was when a very grown man would be called "boy" to his face as a sign of disrespect. The end is near for Ray, as it is for Mike Lange, and Bill Hillgrove. Enjoy them while you can.

By the way, if you think listening to JD is tough, try Dick Groat sometimes.
 

 

11/18/2015 12:05 pm  #74


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hulahooper wrote:

Ray goss and JD are awful to listen to on the webcasts. They announce on the radio and on the webcasts and they have no clue that they are on the web casts too. "24 foot three for colder" Mean while his foot is right behind the arc which would make it a 22 foot three. I don't understand how he can't pronounce C-O-L-T-E-R. and now we have JD who calls darius lewis Damian lewis.. I don't know what he's smoking but the only Damian this team had was from about 7 years ago. Ray calls the african american players coming in the game "boy" if you don't think thats racist then I don't know what to say, while JD is next to him. The school needs to create a new brand, and it should start with getting rid of these 2 clowns. Put B-Mac on the radio along with Bob Healey.. will do a a way better job. "Wide open 25 foot three" while the other team blocks the shot and dunks it on on the other end. Unbelievable

Are you kidding me!  You come here and your first post is to accuse Ray Gross of being a racist.  Ray is a good man and a DU icon.  You and your PC gone a muck sensibility is what is wrong with this Country.   I don't know why I don't just ban you from this board right now. Consider yourself on notice. 
 

 

11/18/2015 4:34 pm  #75


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CLK wrote:

hulahooper wrote:

Ray goss and JD are awful to listen to on the webcasts. They announce on the radio and on the webcasts and they have no clue that they are on the web casts too. "24 foot three for colder" Mean while his foot is right behind the arc which would make it a 22 foot three. I don't understand how he can't pronounce C-O-L-T-E-R. and now we have JD who calls darius lewis Damian lewis.. I don't know what he's smoking but the only Damian this team had was from about 7 years ago. Ray calls the african american players coming in the game "boy" if you don't think thats racist then I don't know what to say, while JD is next to him. The school needs to create a new brand, and it should start with getting rid of these 2 clowns. Put B-Mac on the radio along with Bob Healey.. will do a a way better job. "Wide open 25 foot three" while the other team blocks the shot and dunks it on on the other end. Unbelievable

Are you kidding me!  You come here and your first post is to accuse Ray Gross of being a racist.  Ray is a good man and a DU icon.  You and your PC gone a muck sensibility is what is wrong with this Country.   I don't know why I don't just ban you from this board right now. Consider yourself on notice. 
 

 Ray has been recognized as an outstanding basketball announcer, and remains so today.  He is a consummate professional in his work.

 

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