Steel city AJ wrote:

Exactly Pepperdine was rated the best team in the tournament and the dukes never gave up. I thought for how bad the team shot they kept it relatively close. I watched some the UWM game and they have some HUGE dudes. MUST stay out of foul trouble in order to win. Doubt the dukes will shoot this poorly down here again. It just shows you that with micah not shooting well today its tough to make up his points, you saw jeremiah pick up some of his points but its tough... Good experience for the dukes hopefully they can go 2-1 which will give them the experience of what it takes to play 2 games in a row which will hopefully prepare them for the A10 tournament. Go DUKES

Exactly. If we would have played the way we did in the second half the entire game I think we had a good shot of winning this game, and we didn't even play particularly great in the second. Honestly, in my 6 years of closely following Duquesne basketball, I don't think I've ever witnessed a Duquesne team play as poorly as they did in the first half. Yet, they were still within striking distance. Hopefully that's a sign of a better team. We shall see.

Dukes2012 you must not have seen the St. Francis game last year

CLK wrote:

Dukes2012 you must not have seen the St. Francis game last year

Actually I did not see it. In my defense, that sfu game was right in the middle of law school finals weeks! However, after looking at the box score, the dukes still weren't 0-13 bad in that game. Still one of the worst results in recent memory though.

Well posters it wasn't real pretty here in Estero, Fl. Inside Germain Arena, that is. The cold shooting and quick foul trouble changed a lot of things as players had to sit. They were calling tricky tacky fouls on Dukes and allowing The Waves travel and hold and push off. At one point Coach took a timeout and told the ref about it and that bush ref followed him into the time out huddle, a little later he T Ed up Powell. Powell had an arm lock on him and couldn't get to the ball, he said something that the ref heard since he was running up court away from him.

When the Dukes fought back to 7 I thought if only mason had hit 2 threes and one of the layups he missed it would have been tied. But if and buts don't win games.

The Murry State team lost a lot of kids so with just average shooting Duquesne should have a different outcome, only saw Jones have one out of control moment and he drove inside on Big Guys.

Met some parents and players, coaches and Athelitics dept folks very accommodating , hope we can pull out the next two. Arena was cold, like going to the Civic Arena in mid 1970s when they didn't turn on heat😎

I don't think the outcome was ever in doubt once Pepperdine pulled ahead in what, the third minute of the game? Pepperdine did not look that good to me at all. BTW, Milwaukee beat Santa Clara and gave Notre Dame a decent game. They won't be a pushover.

None of the bigs played well, even though I thought it was a place where we could have some advantage.

Yeah, just a cold shooting day is all. Of course, the defense stunk, the FT shooting wasn't good, and we missed what, a dozen layups?

Hey, a lot of folks have high expectations for this team. Yesterday they played the way they have the past three years, which is why my expectations are more modest, and as everyone will see, more realistic. The difference makers this year were supposed to be the addition of Castro and defense. Plus a nucleus of senior guards and the continued development of big men. So far, that hasn't panned out. They only play defense for a couple of minutes, Castro doesn't play at all, and Colter-Jones-Mason plays too minutes. Colter's best games come when he takes 10 shots or fewer. When he takes 15 plus shots, the percentage is always hideous and the outcome is always disaster.

I tell you guys these things all the time and get labeled as negative. Smell that? It's the coffee.

ElDuque wrote:

Hey, a lot of folks have high expectations for this team. Yesterday they played the way they have the past three years, which is why my expectations are more modest, and as everyone will see, more realistic. The difference makers this year were supposed to be the addition of Castro and defense. Plus a nucleus of senior guards and the continued development of big men. So far, that hasn't panned out. They only play defense for a couple of minutes, Castro doesn't play at all, and Colter-Jones-Mason plays too minutes. Colter's best games come when he takes 10 shots or fewer. When he takes 15 plus shots, the percentage is always hideous and the outcome is always disaster.

I tell you guys these things all the time and get labeled as negative. Smell that? It's the coffee.

What do you mean so far it hasn't panned out?  We drilled PSU also.  Gave up 52 to them. We gave up 84 because we fouled a ton.

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ElDuque wrote:

I don't think the outcome was ever in doubt once Pepperdine pulled ahead in what, the third minute of the game? Pepperdine did not look that good to me at all. BTW, Milwaukee beat Santa Clara and gave Notre Dame a decent game. They won't be a pushover.

None of the bigs played well, even though I thought it was a place where we could have some advantage.

Yeah, just a cold shooting day is all. Of course, the defense stunk, the FT shooting wasn't good, and we missed what, a dozen layups?

ND had Milwaukee down by 20 and Milwaukee fought back. Once again, we get down by 19 and fight back to 7 and we stink. Another team does it and they gave someone a "game".

Regarding Pepperdines front court also, that is their strength. I did not see this as a game in any stratosphere where our front court could have an advantage.

See yinz at 12.

Last edited by WEB (11/24/2015 6:23 am)

WEB, you're certainly entitled to your opinions, and to disagree with everything I say. But you have a tendency to put words in my mouth that I have never used. I have never used the word "stink" to describe the team.

I think it's a waste of time to keep having to untwist my words, so I'll stop offering reality checks and let you folks enjoy your season.

ElDuque wrote:

Whatever happened to Rene Castro?

Ferry only seemed to want to sub him for Colter in the PSU game also, like he wasn't capable of playing the off-guard.  May or may not be a sign for next year in two directions...
 

CLK wrote:

WEB wrote:

ElDuque wrote:

I don't think the outcome was ever in doubt once Pepperdine pulled ahead in what, the third minute of the game? Pepperdine did not look that good to me at all. BTW, Milwaukee beat Santa Clara and gave Notre Dame a decent game. They won't be a pushover.

None of the bigs played well, even though I thought it was a place where we could have some advantage.

Yeah, just a cold shooting day is all. Of course, the defense stunk, the FT shooting wasn't good, and we missed what, a dozen layups?

Not to keep picking on you, but if Milwaukee beat SC and that's some feather in their cap, what's the harm in losing to Pepperdine, a team many have pegged as way better than Santa Clara?

WEB got to be honest here, it kinda does feel like you are nit picking at everything El Duque is saying.  I know you are passionate about this team, but there is a lot of truth in what El Duque is saying.  Our bigs did not play well, especially on defense, as evidenced by the number of fouls they garnered.  The team really seemed to lack the intensity they had against PSU, we did not come up with the lose balls and as the game went on our poor shooting even translated on missed layups. 

All teams are going to have these types of train wreck games at some point, the good ones shake it off and bounce back.
 

It does seem like I was taking it to far. I just disagreed with the double standard being offered up on us and our opponents.

Go Dukes.

Great ghosts alive!

PhoenixRising2 wrote:

I guess that Pepperdine was not that good after all...
Lost to Murray State; scored a whopping 55 points.
Shot 2 for 12 from the arc.
The Dukes defense is a little better this year (how could it be any worse than last year), but it still remains the biggest weakness for this season's team.

Also, Penn State falls to Radford 86-74.