applecorps wrote:

The officiating is dreadful.

So is DC.

I understand that DC thinks he needs to take over the game because everyone else looks confused, but dear lord, Powell and Lewis score 70% of the time they get touches down low!

Not happy with the lose at all. As a program playing the #1 with two seniors out and hanging in there kind of feels good but i just can't be happy with the amount of turn overs.

Young guys look good, as I said LG need to stop shooting and take it to the rack. Feed them bigs more. 

Great defensive game, with mason coming back hopefully our offensive possessions look better. 

Also why does it look like we barely run plays? Only 2-3 passes before an iso game. 

Finally....worse take away from the game was the piss poor student section. Don't care if we are on break, half the school is from pittsburgh.  

1. Wow, 11 of 13 from the stripe in the first half. How un Duquesne-like! But then there was that stretch in the middle of the second where they went something like 1-6 when they could have but the lead to one score.

2.  With five minutes to play in the first half I observed:  If Dayton could hit 3s they would be up by 20. If the Dukes could make layups they would be up by 10.

3. Note  to Darius Lewis:  Dude, you are 6' 11" you don't need to put it on the floor every single time you get it above your shoulders in the paint. Go to the Hole!!!!

Nobody really won that game.  Dayton was bad and Duquesne was even worse.  Two games in a row Colter has had really bad shooting nights, and a turnover machine.  I know they played him tight, but got to wonder what is going on with him?  Fatigue, sick, hurting?  We need him and Gill to get back on track.

By the way the uncontested point blank missed layup by Steel made the folks in Vegas  happy.

Colter had 8 turnovers, 3 assists, and was 2-12 and 0-4 three pointers.  Gill was 1-6 and 0-2.  Steel was the only one that hit a trey (he had two).  On the flip side the Dukes outrebounded Dayton 44-39.  James had 12 rebounds.  Dayton only made 3 -25 three pointers, most were wide open.  You won't see many teams shoot that badly and still win.

Box Score

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2015-2016/14duqday.html

If Rene Castro was 50% of the player that I thought he would be, the Dukes might have pulled this one out. Ferry had no other point guard option other than Colter, who just had a miserable game. DC looks like he has nothing left in the tank over the past couple of games; hope he gets his second wind soon.

I know there has to be some sort of story with Castro. It's rare that a guard, rated 3 star coming out of prep school, looks so out of place and overmatched in college. To me at this point, it's not rust.

Simms wrote:

PhoenixRising2 wrote:

If Rene Castro was 50% of the player that I thought he would be, the Dukes might have pulled this one out. Ferry had no other point guard option other than Colter, who just had a miserable game. DC looks like he has nothing left in the tank over the past couple of games; hope he gets his second wind soon.

I know there has to be some sort of story with Castro. It's rare that a guard, rated 3 star coming out of prep school, looks so out of place and overmatched in college. To me at this point, it's not rust.

I remember people talking about him scoring like 52 points a game in the summer league or some such nonsense.  I realize they don't play defense in those games, but come on.  Also, without Mason, our only outside shooter is Steele.  

He did score 52 points in a game at Greentree. They don't play much defense in the summer league, but still. This isn't like Stevens last year, where it quickly became apparent that his lack of size would prevent him from doing the things he did in JC. Stevens was still explosive, he just had trouble dealing with the bigger defenders at this level. Castro looks like he would struggle at the D2 level. He has a weak handle, and he's not explosive at all. It's hard to believe that he was a three star player in high school, but then, so was Jon Severe, and he's been underwhelming at Fordham.

We are getting better as a program. I can tell because we're losing by fewer points.

CLK wrote:

Colter had 8 turnovers, 3 assists, and was 2-12 and 0-4 three pointers.  Gill was 1-6 and 0-2.  Steel was the only one that hit a trey (he had two).  On the flip side the Dukes outrebounded Dayton 44-39.  James had 12 rebounds.  Dayton only made 3 -25 three pointers, most were wide open.  You won't see many teams shoot that badly and still win.

Box Score

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2015-2016/14duqday.html

The ones that were open went in. Just 3 of them. Majority were hotly contested. Even my wife who knows next to nothing about strategy even commented how tough it was for Dayton to get a clean open 3 ball look.

WEB wrote:

CLK wrote:

Colter had 8 turnovers, 3 assists, and was 2-12 and 0-4 three pointers.  Gill was 1-6 and 0-2.  Steel was the only one that hit a trey (he had two).  On the flip side the Dukes outrebounded Dayton 44-39.  James had 12 rebounds.  Dayton only made 3 -25 three pointers, most were wide open.  You won't see many teams shoot that badly and still win.

Box Score

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2015-2016/14duqday.html

The ones that were open went in. Just 3 of them. Majority were hotly contested. Even my wife who knows next to nothing about strategy even commented how tough it was for Dayton to get a clean open 3 ball look.

With all due respect to you and your wife, I watched the game again and just about all of the missed treys were wide open with our guys running out late.  Most teams would have killed us with those looks.  Maybe you and your wife were watching a different game.
 

Last edited by CLK (1/03/2016 2:44 pm)

CLK wrote:

WEB wrote:

CLK wrote:

Colter had 8 turnovers, 3 assists, and was 2-12 and 0-4 three pointers.  Gill was 1-6 and 0-2.  Steel was the only one that hit a trey (he had two).  On the flip side the Dukes outrebounded Dayton 44-39.  James had 12 rebounds.  Dayton only made 3 -25 three pointers, most were wide open.  You won't see many teams shoot that badly and still win.

Box Score

http://www.goduquesne.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2015-2016/14duqday.html

The ones that were open went in. Just 3 of them. Majority were hotly contested. Even my wife who knows next to nothing about strategy even commented how tough it was for Dayton to get a clean open 3 ball look.

With all due respect to you and your wife, I watched the game again and just about all of the missed treys were wide open with our guys running out late.  Most teams would have killed us with those looks.  Maybe you and your wife were watching a different game.
 

We were at the game.

Getting a hand up while a guy is shooting is not a wide open look.

I can remember quite a few times that Eric James was all over their players shooting threes. 

No one will give Ferry credit for defense I get it. 

You just gave up 66 against the top team in the league. But wait, it was because dayton stunk.

CLK, I think I watched the same game as you did (both in person and on my DVR).  More than half of the 3 point attempts were uncontested. But I think if Dayton hit a couple of those early ones, I think the Dukes would have become more aggressive in contesting the 3 pointers. Also, I think the Dukes are better equipped to guard the 3 pointer with Mason out of the line up; I think they are quicker and taller with James and Steel in there to challenge outside shooters.  And they are going to have to defend the 3 against Davidson or your prediction will come true.

WEB, it was a fine defensive effort in limiting Dayton to 66 points. Statistically, it was their 3rd best game as far in terms of defensive efficiency (Penn St. and Robert Morris being better).

With or without Mason, the Dukes need to get more offensively from LG Gill - he is really hurting them.  Over the past 5 games, Gill has averaged 30 minutes on the floor, shooting 30% from the field, good for 6.2 points per game and 5.0 rebounds.


 

CLK I swore not to  be bothered posting again but between WEB and Grammy the cheerleading must stop. Yes there has been improvement but let's be realistic. The Dukes are playing a schedule ranked 231st by ESPN only 1 other team in the A-10 is playing an easier schedule and that's Fordham. I'm tired of the if's and but's that are stated after every game. Each of the last two games where more than winnable. Look at the numbers statistically for the past 3 games and justify the playing time being given to Gill and Colter. While building that 10-3 record many of us complained about the minutes the starters where putting in. Dayton played 11 guys only 2 of which played more than 30 minutes, 2 of those where Freshman.