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Offline Terrible Loss today. We were given every chance to win (technical fouls anyone) and still fell apart. This was a game that many of us had marked down as an easy win. I don't want to hear about them beating VCU. I should hope my 16 win prediction doesn't come true! I certsainly don't have high hopes for the GW game, but if they could somehow manage to win that one and the RI game, I might forgive this awful loss. How Hines or Hindes or whoever the hell he is scored as much as he did is beyond me. Last edited by Simms (2/14/2016 5:27 pm) Online! Terrible Loss today. I should hope my 16 win prediction doesn't come true! My 15 is still on the table. Offline This might have been even worse than the Dayton collapse. Three-point defense was soft and DC played his worst game in a long time. Should be 17-8 (7-5) right now. The bad thing about raising expectations is that the disappointments hurt that much more Last edited by Dukes2012 (2/14/2016 5:32 pm) Offline If you want a defining loss of the season, this is it. Derek Colter has no basketball sense or he would not have drove the basket with 40 seconds left. This team is a .500 team and won't be visiting any -- ANY -- postseason tournament, unless maybe Division II offers. Offline You want a prediction about the weather, you're asking the wrong Phil. I'll give you a winter prediction: It's gonna be cold, it's gonna be grey, and it's gonna last you for the rest of your life.---Phil(bill murray, groundhog day) Offline This loss is on coaching. They were shooting wide open 3s all second half and no coaching adjustments were made. We gave up 75 points in the second half and OT ---- just embarrassing. Offline Step up or fold up which will it be? El Foldo Offline My 16 wins maybe accurate , CLK has it on paper! There is an old basketball writers prediction discription for this team, Mediocre at best. Offline My 16 wins maybe accurate , CLK has it on paper! There is an old basketball writers prediction discription for this team, Mediocre at best. That's what happens when you don't toughen up on OOC schedule. This a soft team that has been highly overrated by some this year. Winning one more game this year is I believe an optimistic view. Offline Out coached. Poor use of the time out when he waited for them to tie us and then used it. Well my 15 wins is also out there. But hey, it was a great halftime with N Nixon and others. In the one end zone were a number of players/ students from high schools And In the student side maybe 20?? No more students the rest of this year.. Second game in a row where there were a few folks and another loss. But hey, I should be happy because they tried, right? Last edited by FAM (2/14/2016 6:14 pm) Online! I'm Done!! This is too painful to watch after seeing a well-coached and solid women's game yesterday. This is an outrage, UMASS WAS CALLED FOR AT LEAST FOUR TECNICAL FOULS, A totally undisciplined team! Yet Duquesne manages to lose at home to them. Offline My 16 wins maybe accurate , CLK has it on paper! There is an old basketball writers prediction discription for this team, Mediocre at best. That's what happens when you don't toughen up on OOC schedule. This a soft team that has been highly overrated by some this year. Winning one more game this year is I believe an optimistic view. Offline Unacceptable lose for the program. Its all about confidence with this team...we are losing it fast. Hope one of the players can lead. Offline I was wrong when I said that the Dayton game was Ferry's worst coaching job, this debacle was by far the worst. Levon you are absolutely correct this team is totally undisciplined, and Ferry sits there with the same old "Deer in the headlights" look as one guy kills us. Give this team to any other coach in the League and the Dukes come away a winner. Colter could not have played any worse, or made more horrible decisions, if was trying to play for the Mob. Last edited by CLK (2/14/2016 6:56 pm) Offline It's simply time to get used to the idea that this program is never going to get a postseason berth. They are soft, cupcakes on the court and twinkies on the bench. Offline You guys are all a bunch of haters. 😂😂😂😂 Ferry and Dixon suffer from a deep seated love of their point guards neither of which deserve the length of their leashes. I have preached about the total lack of discipline on this team time after time. I have been accused of not being able to understand the sophisticated offense we run the defensive improvement I wasn't seeing, gents it was like the emperors clothes. I have been told we have no talent or a lack of it. Steel comes off the bench and scores 11 on 4/5 from the field. Is he defensively suspect sure a little but Colter played a horrible game and watched a guy throw 37 in his face. What was our solution toward the end let's put Powell on him. Offline I was wrong when I said that the Dayton game was Ferry's worst coaching job, this debacle was by far the worst. My wife and I had early dinner reservations, so I turned off the game with 5 minutes left. She said "At least you can be confident that they'll win." I shook my head and reminded her that in the 32 years since I first went to the bluff, I could not feel less confident than I did today. And then it happened... Last edited by rosceaux (2/14/2016 7:59 pm) Offline Ponder this...if UMASS wouldn't have gotten 4 technical fouls (BTW, I don't know about you, but I have never seen 4 technical fouls on one team ever...) we probably wouldn't have made it to overtime. Offline Been lurking for two years. Have attended about 20 home games the past two years including the fiasco today. Coulter is brutal. Cannot comprehend what he was thinking or trying to do with that ridiculous rush down the court with 40 seconds left. His basketball IQ is laughable and today was a perfect example. Absolutely no excuse for a Senior to do what he did. His decision making cost them the game and any shot at the NIT............. It's over folks and Coulter is the reason. Does anyone on the staff hold this kid accountable for the way he runs the point? Absurd. Offline FAM, Micah had 10 assists hell there have been games where we haven't had 10. I would feel a lot better if I saw a coaching staff hold its players accountable and move toward a better rotation that allows guys to flourish. IMHO players are rotting on that bench and it's a horrible inditement of the staff. Last edited by The Dome (2/14/2016 9:40 pm) Offline Ponder this...if UMASS wouldn't have gotten 4 technical fouls (BTW, I don't know about you, but I have never seen 4 technical fouls on one team ever...) we probably wouldn't have made it to overtime. Lewis didn't make a dumb foul, twice our guards didn't give Lewis enough time to set a pic but instead ran the defender into Lewis still on the move. It happened twice on Lewis in this game, just bad guard play. Also, this is no fast pace running team, period. They are just carelessly turning the ball over for the effort. This season is going into the hole fast, Ferry should really try slowing that offense down and work some half-court offense, and see what happens. Hey, maybe without all the turnovers and really bad quick shots, the Dukes might win? Offline In HINDSIGHT perhaps Colter should have pulled it up on that last minute rush up court - but consider the following - I think there WAS Contact on Powell's missed dunk - had Colter pulled it up a U Mass player could have fouled Sanders and let HIM shoot two - even if he did NOT have the ball he could have been fouled - all four of the U Mass T's were for Verbal and an unsportsmanlike ball toss so I don't think we would have seen "deliberate foul - two free throws PLUS possession" - So in the future when we have the Option of a Powell Dunk or a pair of Sanders Free Throws let me know which one you prefer. Offline In HINDSIGHT perhaps Colter should have pulled it up on that last minute rush up court - but consider the following - I think there WAS Contact on Powell's missed dunk - had Colter pulled it up a U Mass player could have fouled Sanders and let HIM shoot two - even if he did NOT have the ball he could have been fouled - all four of the U Mass T's were for Verbal and an unsportsmanlike ball toss so I don't think we would have seen "deliberate foul - two free throws PLUS possession" - So in the future when we have the Option of a Powell Dunk or a pair of Sanders Free Throws let me know which one you prefer. Colter played the drive in the last 40 seconds as if he didn't know what the score was. No way do you take that chance. You pull back, run the clock, take the foul, make the free throws and win the game. Offline This game should have been no surprise. Mason and Colter, alone, cannot match Clark, Davis and Hinds, who combined 80 points. Add in double/double guy, Space, with 17 and 17. Offline This is how most Duquesne fans feel this morning. Last edited by CLK (2/15/2016 10:07 am)
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"You have to be realistic about these things." - Logen Ninefingers
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Until we get serious about a head coach, we are a .500 team.
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WashPaRick wrote:
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A diehard fan since 1961
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A couple of sets in the first half we had 4 guys out front and one at the foul line. Heaven forbid if we go low post. Our defense was terrible. Oh, I'm sorry, they tried the best they could...Ferry did the best he could today Hmmm think about that for a bit.
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Ritter' you are correct, how can a senior guard with all the starts and playing time be so selfish to race down court with time running down and not pull back and get it to other shooters, he is a hard working kid but at 5-8 he was never gonna penetrate, plus Mason was lights out at the line.
A diehard fan since 1961
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Once again we were out rebounded by a smaller team and we gave up a 14 offensive rebounds. Is there no one on that bench worth trying. Can Sanders be any worse or Robinson.
I wanted to start a seperate thread and here was my question, Who's roster would you rather have St. Bonnaventure or ours and why is one team 17/6 9/3 in the league and the other 15/10 5/7 in the league? •Thread Starter
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I agree that this was an absolute clunker. UMass has been a terrible team this year, and their fans have been saying that its because they are so undisciplined on both sides of the court. They typically revert to streetballin'. And they they come in and we teach them a lesson about how a really undisciplined team plays.
I have to imagine that if Colter isn't doing what he's being told, then at least he hasn't been told not to drive first and think later, drive 1 on 2 when he should be burning clock, and firing up threes as a first option. I have a lot of respect for the kid, but there wasn't a whole lot of basketball sense today.
I keep harping on the long-term effects of not giving the younger guys PT. It bore fruit today as they were charged with playing meaningful minutes in OT, when they hadn't seen truly meaningful minutes in quite some time.
ugh. RPI down to 132. There is no post season. Were people really talking about the NIT last week?
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I can't just blame DC, but it was interesting that when he was on the bench due to foul trouble, we went up by 10 points. Lewis made a really dumb foul at the end of regulation, and Micah had at least 4 turnovers himself. LG played a good game but we had NO ONE to guard the 37 point outpoint their main man put out today. Well, back to crowds of 987, 5 students, and the Pep-Band...and next year, we are losing our two leading scorers. Hey but let's look on the bright side...can someone show me a bright side???
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BTW we are still #1 in the conference in 2 point defense!!!!!! •Thread Starter
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FAM wrote:
I can't just blame DC, but it was interesting that when he was on the bench due to foul trouble, we went up by 10 points. Lewis made a really dumb foul at the end of regulation, and Micah had at least 4 turnovers himself. LG played a good game but we had NO ONE to guard the 37 point outpoint their main man put out today. Well, back to crowds of 987, 5 students, and the Pep-Band...and next year, we are losing our two leading scorers. Hey but let's look on the bright side...can someone show me a bright side???
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As for NEXT YEAR - we will probably struggle -- the best teams are usually the ones with the experienced/talented back courts - we will have basically NOTHING - DON'T tell me about Smith - We've had White, Castro and I forget the third one in the last three years who were SUPPOSED to be the answer - Just because Smith "went to St Anthony's" doesn't carry any additional weight - as for the incoming freshman as many coaches have said about freshmen "the BEST thing about them is THEY BECOME SOPHOMORES" - Other than Gill where are the points going to come from - Just about everyone else in the program (Steel, James. Jackson, Lewis, Powell etc) seems to be erratic and from one game to the next have NO idea what we will get from them. Even if Smith is "as good as others think" who will he be passing too?"
Finally as to "style of play" - Here is an INTERESTING QUOTE from Coach Burt which showed up in the Trib Review - they are "only" 23-2 - WHO WANTS TO WATCH PEOPLE PLAY DEFENSE? I DON'T. KIDS WANT TO PLAY FAST EVERYBODY WANTS TO SCORE.
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As for NEXT YEAR - we will probably struggle -- the best teams are usually the ones with the experienced/talented back courts - we will have basically NOTHING - DON'T tell me about Smith - We've had White, Castro and I forget the third one in the last three years who were SUPPOSED to be the answer - Just because Smith "went to St Anthony's" doesn't carry any additional weight - as for the incoming freshman as many coaches have said about freshmen "the BEST thing about them is THEY BECOME SOPHOMORES" - Other than Gill where are the points going to come from - Just about everyone else in the program (Steel, James. Jackson, Lewis, Powell etc) seems to be erratic and from one game to the next have NO idea what we will get from them. Even if Smith is "as good as others think" who will he be passing too?"
Finally as to "style of play" - Here is an INTERESTING QUOTE from Coach Burt which showed up in the Trib Review - they are "only" 23-2 - WHO WANTS TO WATCH PEOPLE PLAY DEFENSE? I DON'T. KIDS WANT TO PLAY FAST EVERYBODY WANTS TO SCORE.
It's Basketball 101.
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Apparently, we had bought in to coach Ferry's over promising the past 3-4 years: from Binny to White to Stevens and then Castro, JRob and Ridenour, who couldn't/can't seem to get off the bench. Pre-season prognosticators and 11th place was/is about right.
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