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2/25/2016 12:28 pm  #1


Ron Cooke

seems to think Suzie and Dan are having a bit of a hissie fight.

 

2/25/2016 1:28 pm  #2


Re: Ron Cooke

WashPaRick wrote:

seems to think Suzie and Dan are having a bit of a hissie fight.

More details please!
 

 

2/25/2016 2:00 pm  #3


Re: Ron Cooke

Suzie started it AGAIN when she was quoted in the PGH piece on the Wise kid being recruited by Duquesne, but Suzi could tell that she wanted to go "big time", rather than Duquesne.  Just went out of her way to take a shot at a school that has beaten her school PITT 7 of the last 8 years.  Dan answered in a subtle manner today in the PG.

 

2/25/2016 2:46 pm  #4


Re: Ron Cooke

Funny how Dan Burt has Duquesne on the verge of their first NCAA Tourney bid as an at large if not the A-10 qualifier . That's pretty big time and something Suzie could not do here.  

 

2/25/2016 2:57 pm  #5


Re: Ron Cooke

All that losing must be clouding Suzies judgement.

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2/25/2016 6:17 pm  #6


Re: Ron Cooke

Bad blood started with the bogus ring ceremony.   Burt called her out on it and has been throwing shots himself.   Last week or so, he said in a tv interview (paraphrasing here) I believe that he doesn't want his assistant coaches sitting on their butts for 5 years while some one else does all the coaching.   

The Queen Bee has been dethroned by one of her drones and she isn't taking it well.

I bleeping love it when he responds to her.

Last edited by duqkurt (2/25/2016 6:19 pm)

 

2/25/2016 9:51 pm  #7


Re: Ron Cooke

Better be a little careful here.  We NEED the Pitt game on our schedule.  Pitt doesn't need us.

Also, I didn't see the "big time" as a shot at Duquesne, but rather a shot at the A-10 vs. the ACC.  Read the context the sentence before and two sentences later from the PG:
McConnell-Serio was still at Duquesne and admitted that Wise might be out of the Dukes’ league from a recruiting standpoint.
McConnell-Serio had the allure of the ACC — “big-time basketball” — behind her and, more importantly, her name and reputation.

While I can't stand Pitt, it's a bit of a reach for me to say SMS's PG quotes were a shot at DU.  It may have helped re-fuel the SMS vs Burt rivalry some, however...

 

2/26/2016 12:56 pm  #8


Re: Ron Cooke

Nonsense to say that we need pitt?  Take them off the schedule and we schedule someone else of that caliber, lower level ACC or BIG10 school.  If Syracuse was willing to play us, then I'm sure someone else will be more than happy to play a good program and an NCAA Tournament Team.  Do you really think she wants to end the series after seeing Pitt lose 2 of 3 to Duquesne under her regime, and 7 of the last 8?  It would look like she was afraid to lose to Duquesne again, so don't think she isn't waiting anxiously for next years Duquesne game.  She will have a good team at Pitt in time, maybe even next year, and eventually beat Duquesne again.  It will probably be a more even series in the future.  I really hold no ill feelings toward Suzi,, but she has seemed to adopt that ill-placed arrogance that pitt coaches and fans seem to emit.  It really is humorous because they like to play the bully against schools like Duquesne, but they never win anything, and  fail more often than not against their peers. 

 

2/26/2016 2:11 pm  #9


Re: Ron Cooke

If you think your school is too "small time" to get a recruit you've already made that a self fulfilling prophecy.

Yes this all started with the ridiculously timed ring ceremony and I'm loving the struggles since then.  Pitt 0-9 at home including that loss to Duquesne.  Sadly they probably still get more hype than the Duquesne ladies do this year.

 

 

2/26/2016 4:46 pm  #10


Re: Ron Cooke

Pitt takes out big ads every day in the PG  sports page.  The newspapers need money to survive, so of course they will cater to those who spend big bucks advertising.  The daily coverage of everything pitt is exactly what they are paying for with their advertising, indirectly of course.  Throwing an occasional ad the way of the two local fish wraps wouldn't be a bad idea for the new AD at Duquesne.

 

2/26/2016 6:08 pm  #11


Re: Ron Cooke

And maybe NEXT YEAR DU can "return the favor" and have the ring ceremony when you know who visits Palumbo!!

Beat St Bonnie!!!

 

2/26/2016 7:26 pm  #12


Re: Ron Cooke

Lots of interesting comments here....

Whether the Dukes "need" Pitt on their schedule may be irrelevant soon.  It wouldn't surprise me if Pitt drops Duquesne from its schedule like a hot potato.  The last thing a Power 5 school wants on its schedule is a so-called mid-major that can actually beat them.  Pitt will bow out of the series & make up some lame excuse about not wanting to play anybody home-&-home because they "need the revenue" from the extra home game.  After all, we used to play West Virginia every year, but not any more.  I don't claim to know why but I'll bet I can guess.

The arrogance of the Power 5 coaches & fans just kills me.  They honestly think that they're the "Power 5" because they're so much better & smarter than everybody else.  It doesn't seem to dawn on them that the playing field isn't level due to all the TV money being bestowed upon them & TV having turned these conferences into brand names.

When Susie was first hired at Pitt, I saw an article in The Pitt News* where she talked about recruiting Brianna Kiesel while at Duquesne but failing because Kiesel wanted to play "big-time basketball."  So Susie has publicly used that excuse twice for her failure to land a "big-time" player at Duquesne, yet Dan Burt was able to get Wumi Agunbiade to choose Duquesne over Michigan.  Susie had good success at Duquesne with players that Dan recruited & got Pitt to the NCAAs with players Agnus Berenato recruited.  How will she do at Pitt with players she recruited herself?  Time will tell, but so far, not so good.
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*I found it on line while searching for something else.  I don't read The Pitt News - honest!
 

 

2/26/2016 8:14 pm  #13


Re: Ron Cooke

Can someone post a link to where the coaches' banter over Suzie's comment about Brenna Wise's showing disinterest in playing for the Dukes?  I don't mean the article in the P-G by Sam Werner about Wise and her leadership qualities.  Where are the comments of Coach Burt.  Were these made on a radio broadcast?  Whether Suzie's comments reflected Wise's actual view of the Dukes or were just a subtle slight of Duquesne's basketball program by Suzie, the results of this season clearly shows the Dukes to be the superior program even without Wise's presence on the Dukes roster.  If it leads to an increased chippiness between the coaches, I'm all for it.  No need to make nice if you want a great rivalry.  

Last edited by godukes1970 (2/27/2016 10:46 am)

 

2/26/2016 8:36 pm  #14


Re: Ron Cooke

godukes1970, you can hear Burt's remarks here:



 

 

2/26/2016 10:39 pm  #15


Re: Ron Cooke

Officer Dribble wrote:

Lots of interesting comments here....

Whether the Dukes "need" Pitt on their schedule may be irrelevant soon.  It wouldn't surprise me if Pitt drops Duquesne from its schedule like a hot potato.  The last thing a Power 5 school wants on its schedule is a so-called mid-major that can actually beat them.  Pitt will bow out of the series & make up some lame excuse about not wanting to play anybody home-&-home because they "need the revenue" from the extra home game.  After all, we used to play West Virginia every year, but not any more.  I don't claim to know why but I'll bet I can guess.

The arrogance of the Power 5 coaches & fans just kills me.  They honestly think that they're the "Power 5" because they're so much better & smarter than everybody else.  It doesn't seem to dawn on them that the playing field isn't level due to all the TV money being bestowed upon them & TV having turned these conferences into brand names.

When Susie was first hired at Pitt, I saw an article in The Pitt News* where she talked about recruiting Brianna Kiesel while at Duquesne but failing because Kiesel wanted to play "big-time basketball."  So Susie has publicly used that excuse twice for her failure to land a "big-time" player at Duquesne, yet Dan Burt was able to get Wumi Agunbiade to choose Duquesne over Michigan.  Susie had good success at Duquesne with players that Dan recruited & got Pitt to the NCAAs with players Agnus Berenato recruited.  How will she do at Pitt with players she recruited herself?  Time will tell, but so far, not so good.
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*I found it on line while searching for something else.  I don't read The Pitt News - honest!
 

The end of your post said it all.   I think that Suzie has Wise and Diop and not much else.  And Diop really hasnt show much this year.  None of her recuits this year except for Wise shows anything.   Walsh was getting playing time but not recently.   She has a point guard transfer from SC next year so that tells you what she thinks of Walsh. 

I don't think she will end the series.  If they do that will bring laughs from the local media after all the whining they do about Penn State in football.

Last edited by duqkurt (2/26/2016 10:40 pm)

 

2/27/2016 4:43 pm  #16


Re: Ron Cooke

To suggest that a P5 school would be more than happy play Duquesne isn't likely.  If that game could have been scheduled, I'd venture we'd have seen that game and not the Slippery Rock game.  Burt has alluded to the challenges facing the Dukes and getting P5 schools to come here to Palumbo.

It wasn't fully SMS winning with Berenato's players.  Only 40% of the starting lineup for Pitt last year was Berenato's recruits.  Diop and Bugg were SMS's, and Monica Wignot off the volleyball team as a 5th year player was a huge addition and likely the player that put that team over the top (obviously with Kiesel's help).  I agree right now with the rest of many of the assessments of Pitt, however, with the exception that both this board and the Pitt one is underrating Carey a bit IMHO, particularly on the defensive end. 

I also think it's a bit different recruiting international players than US ones in terms of what they define as "big time".  Players outside the US like Agunbiade were not tainted by the ESPN/CBS media hype that goes along with the P5 only schools but may be more likely to see the Ws and Ls vs the US players who constantly are slammed with the BCS/P5 hype machine.  It's a great niche to have the international recruiting the way the Dukes have it rolling right now as one of only three teams fully recruiting Europe.

 

2/27/2016 10:28 pm  #17


Re: Ron Cooke

Forgot about Carey.  You are right about her.   Bugg has had a horrible season this year. 

If they cant schedule P5 schools, you have to go to next level of schools facing the same challenges as DU.  Go back with Green Bay.  Try and schedule FGCU, Temple, Western Kebtucky & JMU.  Teams in the same boat at you are in.  Also keep the series with St John's.   And upper MAC schools.   Wright St would also be good.

Last edited by duqkurt (2/27/2016 10:29 pm)

 

2/28/2016 10:25 am  #18


Re: Ron Cooke

duqkurt wrote:

The end of your post said it all. I think that Suzie has Wise and Diop and not much else. And Diop really hasnt show much this year. None of her recuits this year except for Wise shows anything. Walsh was getting playing time but not recently. She has a point guard transfer from SC next year so that tells you what she thinks of Walsh.

I don't think she will end the series. If they do that will bring laughs from the local media after all the whining they do about Penn State in football.

I saw about a half dozen Pitt games this year.  I still think we got the better of the Omigrosso-Walsh "trade" but Walsh looks like she can be a good one, too.  She hasn't gotten off the bench much lately as you said.  My criticism of Suzie, even when she was here, was that she has a big doghouse. It didn't seem to hurt us much at Duquesne because there were a lot of good players.  At Pitt this year, it seems like a player commits a turnover or an opponent is left wide open, then immediately you see one or two players run to the scorers table to come into the game.  I get it that sometimes you have to bench a player who makes repeated mistakes & doesn't follow instructions.  I also think that sometimes you have to give your players a chance to recover from mistakes so that they don't play afraid to make mistakes.  At Pitt, it seems that she's constantly shuttling players in & out & there's never continuity.  You gotta let a group of 5 players get into the flow of the game together.

 

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