Not sure of the demand for a 16-16 team that has lost 9 of the last 10...

I agree, pull the plug. Ferry, however, said last night that if invited to a low level post season tourney the are going. 

With the Vegas 16, there are a ton of spots to fill now. Unless they cut down the nets, it won't matter to me.

Spending any $$$ on a tournament of any sort would be amongst the most moronic moves ever.   Not that anyone is inviting them anywhere.

Last edited by duqkurt (3/10/2016 1:16 pm)

Amen Pete. We've hosted the NCAA's three times and wtf has it gotten us? Oh, I know, our logo was on the floors of the arena and console. Wow, the recruits came flooding in then!!

PistolPete wrote:

DKurt, that thud you heard was the hammer hitting the nail on the head!!!  Does anyone even think it makes sense to mass email Harper on this debacle??  Just interested to see what kind of response we'd get - as opposed to excuses.  I know Tejas said he spoke to him on another thread and expanded on the substance of the conversation - within confidential boundaries.  I'd love to hear the justification/rationalization for the whiff on this season by Ferry - and Harper should know we are not falling for the Kobe/JJones bullshi.....    

I emailed him a few weeks ago and just sent one off today (which I said was the last one I was sending because I realize he had better things to do resurrecting the dead than answer long griping emails from angry alumni, I get that, I really do  )  I will be posting edited versions of those in their own threads soon.

Maybe direct Harper to this Board if he wants to get the alumni temperature - although I suspect he is well aware.  Anyway, just a thought.

Harper knows what the deal is. The school is not going to eat three years of Ferry's contract, so we need to quit whining about it. He's here next year, and then if he doesn't get it done, he's gone. Harper isn't going to bash him to us, or in public, nor should he. As long as Ferry is coach, the AD needs to support him. Firing Ferry will fix nothing if we hire the wrong guy. Ferry will get his fifth year. In the meantime, Harper has a full year to do his due diligence, as far as seeing what's out there. Harper hasn't been an AD, so I doubt that he's been out there looking at coaches. You go out looking now, and you're going to get the same thing that brought Ferry here. They're going to see some coach at a low major program that won 20 games, and made the NCAAs, and he's going to be hired. Good luck with that. Better to take the year, and put yourself in position to make the right choice, than to rush into the wrong choice, and be right back here 4 years from now. If by some miracle Ferry pulls a PJ Carlesimo, and suddenly figures things out in his fifth season, that would be good as well.

duq81 wrote:

Harper knows what the deal is. The school is not going to eat three years of Ferry's contract, so we need to quit whining about it. He's here next year, and then if he doesn't get it done, he's gone. Harper isn't going to bash him to us, or in public, nor should he. As long as Ferry is coach, the AD needs to support him. Firing Ferry will fix nothing if we hire the wrong guy. Ferry will get his fifth year. In the meantime, Harper has a full year to do his due diligence, as far as seeing what's out there. Harper hasn't been an AD, so I doubt that he's been out there looking at coaches. You go out looking now, and you're going to get the same thing that brought Ferry here. They're going to see some coach at a low major program that won 20 games, and made the NCAAs, and he's going to be hired. Good luck with that. Better to take the year, and put yourself in position to make the right choice, than to rush into the wrong choice, and be right back here 4 years from now. If by some miracle Ferry pulls a PJ Carlesimo, and suddenly figures things out in his fifth season, that would be good as well.

duq81, good points. This current situation was caused by the knee-jerk reaction of GA, the President and the board; before you let someone go, you better have their replacement vetted and waiting in the wings (and not just a single target who had zero interest in the job). And now we are living with the results of this air of desperation hire.  Although many of us on this board might have been tempted to have the same knee-jerk reaction over the events of the last 6 weeks, I don't think that is going to be the case with Dave Harper. I would not be surprised if he already has a search consultant on retainer. With the 3 years remaining on the contract buyout plus paying for a new coach (Duquesne will have to overpay to attract a quality coach here - both in salary and length of contract), it isn't going to happen this year unless someone writes a 7 figure check (9 with decimals). As hard as it is to swallow, we're just going to have to let this play out another year.

Phoenix Rising with much due respect "knee jerk" reaction was not the case with RE. The fact was that "The Quinipiac Clown" out of pure jealously had worked 24/7 upon directing his flunkies to undermine Ron in every which way. However the President not the board had bought into "The Quinipiac Clowns " jihad to fire RE. This decision ultimately was the Presidents period! 5 million $$$$ contract😂. Fund raising alumni contributions what a joke. As Pistol had noted "Black Hole" not just the men's program but entire University. Very Sad.Duquesne U in regard to its once loyal fan base is currently at a very bad place. As far as the new AD good luck keep the current status quo and you join the Colleary & Quinipiac clown" as a failure upon your eminent  termination. This program is at a all-time low.

levon1975 wrote:

Why would Harper have been searching for a new coach when the Dukes were 15-7? You realize that the late year collapse makes it unlikely that a change will be made. As 81 mentioned you don't want to act now and put yourself in a desperate situation resulting in a bad hire. Duquesne has some promising players signed for next year, so it's probably not the time to make a change.

It's hard to be patient, but sometimes that is the best course. You especially have to really do your homework if you're looking at assistants. Regardless of all of that, I want a guy in here who is known for having well coached teams. No more of this "exciting style of play" BS. We've told for 40 years that if we ran, ran, ran, recruits would flock to our door. It hasn't worked yet.
 

CLK wrote:

I agree, pull the plug. Ferry, however, said last night that if invited to a low level post season tourney the are going. 

Let them go. Just ask them not to come back.