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5/11/2016 9:18 am  #1


Ferry will attempt to pad the win total with a soft OOC schedule...

that includes playing at Kentucky.  Doesn't seem to fit the narrative put forward by some. 

http://www.aseaofblue.com/2016/5/11/11656292/kentucky-basketball-exhibition-games-big-blue-madness-duquesne
 

 

5/11/2016 9:42 am  #2


Re: Ferry will attempt to pad the win total with a soft OOC schedule...

One game does not a schedule make, although I would also assume that we will have Pitt and Penn State too for Power 5 match ups.  PSU should be at home if that series is to continue, although I bet that game is played at Consol.  Any idea on whether or not GT was a series, or just a one time game?  I wouldn't be opposed to a relatively mediocre schedule for the rest of the games.  The A10 is hard enough.  


"You have to be realistic about these things."  - Logen Ninefingers
 

5/11/2016 10:02 am  #3


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Many observers including Coach Ferry seem to persistently critique current crop of student athletes as soft/ego-centric (my words, not his).  Yet, my experience is more than ever, today's ball players just want to play the best out there. Hats off to both Harper and Ferry for scheduling the Wildcats - well done!

 

5/11/2016 10:52 am  #4


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Great to get on Kentucky's schedule.  Have Duquesne and Kentucky ever played?  If so, how did it turn out?

 

5/11/2016 11:40 am  #5


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Should be an interesting game and certainly about the most high profile team that we will have played for many a year. Does anyone remember the last such game that the Dukes took part in or any that stand out?

 

5/11/2016 11:43 am  #6


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president wrote:

Should be an interesting game and certainly about the most high profile team that we will have played for many a year. Does anyone remember the last such game that the Dukes took part in or any that stand out?

We played Arizona a few years ago which most likely led to us losing TJ to them. We also played duke when Aaron Jackson was playing

 

5/11/2016 12:26 pm  #7


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Forgot about the Duke game. Coach K commented after the game that the Dukes kept playing hard for the entire game.

 

5/11/2016 12:43 pm  #8


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Bilgy wrote:

Great to get on Kentucky's schedule.  Have Duquesne and Kentucky ever played?  If so, how did it turn out?

Duquesne is 0-1 against Kentucky losing a 55-42 contest on Dec. 17, 1982.

 

5/11/2016 1:26 pm  #9


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I remember that game. It was in what they called the University of Kentucky Invitational Tournament (UKIT)–Kentucky and 3 cupcakes usually (although lots of teams are cupcakes compared to Kentucky). I was living in Cincinnati and listening to the game on my crystal set (just kidding, radio). I remember what Cawood Ledford, their announcer, said about us after we threw a couple of bad passes: "Slop, slop, slop." But we didn't really embarrass ourselves.

 

5/11/2016 1:35 pm  #10


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scduke wrote:

I remember that game. It was in what they called the University of Kentucky Invitational Tournament (UKIT)–Kentucky and 3 cupcakes usually (although lots of teams are cupcakes compared to Kentucky). I was living in Cincinnati and listening to the game on my crystal set (just kidding, radio). I remember what Cawood Ledford, their announcer, said about us after we threw a couple of bad passes: "Slop, slop, slop." But we didn't really embarrass ourselves.

The Dukes were 40 point underdogs for that game with Kentucky.  6' 8"Joey Myers from Lower Burrell was the Dukes' scoring leader that season, and I believe for that game.  Losing by only 13 points was kind of a moral victory.
 

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5/11/2016 2:08 pm  #11


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It's easy to pick a red jellybean out of a pile of yellow ones. Give me 10-11 games like that and I'll eat my hat. But if it's Kentucky and the 10 dwarfs, I'll remain unimpressed.

 

5/11/2016 3:46 pm  #12


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ElDuque wrote:

It's easy to pick a red jellybean out of a pile of yellow ones. Give me 10-11 games like that and I'll eat my hat. But if it's Kentucky and the 10 dwarfs, I'll remain unimpressed.

10-11 games against similar caliber competition to Kentucky would by far be the hardest out of conference schedule in the entire country by a ridiculous margin. That doesn't even make sense. That would be disastrous to this program, we'd be 0-10 going into conference play. How does that help anything? 

About 5 years ago Long Beach State started putting out a nationally ranked program for a couple years in a row, then they tried to open a season against all ranked opponents, pretty much lost every game and haven't heard about them since. It's good to pepper in some tough tests with some winnable games, not get in way over your head. You have to go into the conference schedule with some momentum especially for a team like us who is usually running uphill in terms of talent. I don't even necessarily agree with scheduling Kentucky. I mean, is anyone willing to bet  we lose by less than 30? I'm sue were getting a pretty fat check to go down there though.

 

5/11/2016 3:50 pm  #13


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I really like the idea of scheduling teams like Georgia Tech last year, schools in a BCS conference with national name recognition that we actually have a chance to compete with. Although there was that Georgetown game a few years back.....

 

5/11/2016 4:28 pm  #14


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ElDuque wrote:

It's easy to pick a red jellybean out of a pile of yellow ones. Give me 10-11 games like that and I'll eat my hat. But if it's Kentucky and the 10 dwarfs, I'll remain unimpressed.

Pitt and Penn State will likely be on the schedule.  2 more top 100 teams.  Penn State may have the beginnings of a very nice run. 

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5/11/2016 4:46 pm  #15


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godukes1970 wrote:

scduke wrote:

I remember that game. It was in what they called the University of Kentucky Invitational Tournament (UKIT)–Kentucky and 3 cupcakes usually (although lots of teams are cupcakes compared to Kentucky). I was living in Cincinnati and listening to the game on my crystal set (just kidding, radio). I remember what Cawood Ledford, their announcer, said about us after we threw a couple of bad passes: "Slop, slop, slop." But we didn't really embarrass ourselves.

The Dukes were 40 point underdogs for that game with Kentucky.  6' 8"Joey Myers from Lower Burrell was the Dukes' scoring leader that season, and I believe for that game.  Losing by only 13 points was kind of a moral victory.
 

Joey played very well in that game. We got the UK broadcast, and the announcers complained about Satalin slowing the game down. They wanted us to try to run with them, so they could blow our doors off.
The A10 would be very upset if Duquesne scheduled more than a handful of unwinnable games, as it would wreck our rpi, and possible cost the league a bid in March. Before you say "screw the A10", you need to consider how little value Duquesne has brought the league since it's founding. We're lucky they haven't asked us to leave.
 

 

5/11/2016 5:04 pm  #16


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Duques102 wrote:

ElDuque wrote:

It's easy to pick a red jellybean out of a pile of yellow ones. Give me 10-11 games like that and I'll eat my hat. But if it's Kentucky and the 10 dwarfs, I'll remain unimpressed.

10-11 games against similar caliber competition to Kentucky would by far be the hardest out of conference schedule in the entire country by a ridiculous margin. That doesn't even make sense. That would be disastrous to this program, we'd be 0-10 going into conference play. How does that help anything? 

About 5 years ago Long Beach State started putting out a nationally ranked program for a couple years in a row, then they tried to open a season against all ranked opponents, pretty much lost every game and haven't heard about them since. It's good to pepper in some tough tests with some winnable games, not get in way over your head. You have to go into the conference schedule with some momentum especially for a team like us who is usually running uphill in terms of talent. I don't even necessarily agree with scheduling Kentucky. I mean, is anyone willing to bet  we lose by less than 30? I'm sue were getting a pretty fat check to go down there though.

Let's just not play a top 20 soft schedule with DII teams.

 

5/11/2016 5:45 pm  #17


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ElDuque wrote:

Duques102 wrote:

ElDuque wrote:

It's easy to pick a red jellybean out of a pile of yellow ones. Give me 10-11 games like that and I'll eat my hat. But if it's Kentucky and the 10 dwarfs, I'll remain unimpressed.

10-11 games against similar caliber competition to Kentucky would by far be the hardest out of conference schedule in the entire country by a ridiculous margin. That doesn't even make sense. That would be disastrous to this program, we'd be 0-10 going into conference play. How does that help anything? 

About 5 years ago Long Beach State started putting out a nationally ranked program for a couple years in a row, then they tried to open a season against all ranked opponents, pretty much lost every game and haven't heard about them since. It's good to pepper in some tough tests with some winnable games, not get in way over your head. You have to go into the conference schedule with some momentum especially for a team like us who is usually running uphill in terms of talent. I don't even necessarily agree with scheduling Kentucky. I mean, is anyone willing to bet  we lose by less than 30? I'm sue were getting a pretty fat check to go down there though.

Let's just not play a top 20 soft schedule with DII teams.

Here here. At this point Ferry needs to be earning every dollar of his contract. He's been way over paid to this point.

 

5/11/2016 7:42 pm  #18


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$3 million after this year. That's a lot of freakin jelly beans.

 

5/11/2016 8:20 pm  #19


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This is for sure a fantastic thing that we should be hype about. Yes we will get killed but this is how you prepare yourself for the A10s. 

This will get all the students of Duquesne to actually watch the game. It's much easier for me to convince my boys to put the dukes game on when they aren't playing some school they never heard of. Our boys are going to be playing against the best kids out there. 
We get a fat pay day, national recognition, and prepare ourselves for the A10s.

Would love to see a couple more power 5 schools in our OOC schedule. Our record doesn't matter, it only makes a bad program feel good by winning against crap teams. Let's go compete with the best so we can be the one day be the best. 


Roll Dukes Roll
 

5/12/2016 8:27 am  #20


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5/12/2016 8:54 am  #21


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Haha definitely not the most flattering picture of Harper. Hey Dave what happened at the end of last season?


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5/13/2016 12:52 pm  #22


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i had no idea ferry actually made the schedule. at most schools its usually the AD....

it seems live every year we play Pitt/Penn St and one other power 5 program, whether it be duke, arizona, ga tech, WVU, etc.

i would assume the problem most of us have with the schedule is the d2 teams that actually count as a regular season win, along with the multitude of sub 300 RPI teams we play. 

 

5/13/2016 1:30 pm  #23


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There's no reason we can't play teams in the bottom half of the power conferences. Have to play Pitt and RMU. I like Penn State on the schedule. Kentucky is a good add. I would have either a Florida or Cali trip, a Jersey trip or Lehigh Valley, a decent Midwestern game. Play where we have either an alumni base or recruiting targets. I know that's a lot of variables but it beats starting with the bottom 10 RPI teams. Would also help put fannies in the seats.

 

5/13/2016 1:47 pm  #24


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ElDuque wrote:

There's no reason we can't play teams in the bottom half of the power conferences. Have to play Pitt and RMU. I like Penn State on the schedule. Kentucky is a good add. I would have either a Florida or Cali trip, a Jersey trip or Lehigh Valley, a decent Midwestern game. Play where we have either an alumni base or recruiting targets. I know that's a lot of variables but it beats starting with the bottom 10 RPI teams. Would also help put fannies in the seats.

Bottom half P5 teams aren't coming to Palumbo. Just like every other program, they want mostly home games, with maybe a regional home and home, plus one game as a road whore. No one wants to play tough games, especially against teams that rank below you. It trickles down until you get to the low majors, who end up having to absorb all of the road games. BE won't play at A10. A10 won't play at MAAC, MAAC won't play at NEC. NEC goes on the road.
 

 

5/13/2016 3:08 pm  #25


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Duquesne plays St. Francis (NEC) on the road.  Well at least in Johnstown.

 

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