This is not surprising, as we had heard Ferry was going to promote from within.  What is odd is still no well wishes for Nash, and feels to me like is was not a good departure. Also, it appears that the position of Associate Head Coach may have just been eliminated. We will see.

His A10 playing experience was baseball. Well, his list of attributes appears to plug a lot of Ferry's weak spots.

Good luck to him.

No idea if this is a good or bad thing. I do know that not having a shiny, sexy new associate head coach in place is a bad thing.

You can watch our WBB team and know which coach is responsible for what. I've seen a lot of our MBB games and I have no clue who does what.

CLK wrote:

This is not surprising, as we had heard Ferry was going to promote from within.  What is odd is still no well wishes for Nash, and feels to me like is was not a good departure. Also, it appears that the position of Associate Head Coach may have just been eliminated. We will see.

Not trying to stir things here - just commenting - but In looking at the Trib article in the other thread on Kentucky, I saw the Trib article on Nash leaving with this quote:

“It's a great opportunity for Brian and his family,” Ferry said. “His wife went to college down there, and it's a big-time job. I'm excited for him and I'm disappointed. But when you work with somebody for a long time and see good things happen to them, you're excited for them.”

Not sure if you would consider this wishing someone well and not sure why DU doesn't have changes on its site but I did at least see this comment.

 

Mulder wrote:

CLK wrote:

This is not surprising, as we had heard Ferry was going to promote from within.  What is odd is still no well wishes for Nash, and feels to me like is was not a good departure. Also, it appears that the position of Associate Head Coach may have just been eliminated. We will see.

Not trying to stir things here - just commenting - but In looking at the Trib article in the other thread on Kentucky, I saw the Trib article on Nash leaving with this quote:

“It's a great opportunity for Brian and his family,” Ferry said. “His wife went to college down there, and it's a big-time job. I'm excited for him and I'm disappointed. But when you work with somebody for a long time and see good things happen to them, you're excited for them.”

Not sure if you would consider this wishing someone well and not sure why DU doesn't have changes on its site but I did at least see this comment.

 

This coaching staff always appeared to be pretty close. They have lots of pictures on Twitter of them cooking out at eachothers' homes. Based on that quote, it looks like there was no falling out, rather coach Nash was just ready to move on.

So, I am sure that this guy is very nice.  But let's talk basketball. 3 facts...

According to his bio,
1.  His forte was baseball...I guess since it's still a game with balls, this counts.
2.  It said he coached at American International through October 2013.  Not sure how long he was there but checking some stats, here are the records for that team...for a span of 3 years.  Earlier than that he was at Trinity.
2011-2012 - 8-18
2012-2013 - 9-17
2013-2014 - 9-19
3.  The team's record at Trinity (where he coached before AI was excellent...don't know why he would move from there.  Some really great winning seasons.

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Dukes2012 wrote:

Duques102 wrote:

What is more Duquesne basketball then your basically second head coach leaving and then internally promoting a guy who played college BASEBALL. And then on top of it don't have an asoociate head coach, which literally women's tennis teams even have. You couldn't make this sh*t up. 

I don't think that's a big deal, really. It's merely a title. I'm sure internally they have a second in command were ferry to have to take leave for some reason.

I hear you man but why does every move this department makes have to look so incompetent and Bush league?? I mean no mention of an associate head coach leaving and then a media release of an internal hire/promotion of a guy who played a completely different sport at a high level. I mean, I understand it's not a huge deal to the success/failure of this coaching staff but this is the type of stuff that makes RMU look more legit than us.

Also did Ferry's budget get cut? By promoting an existing head coach, aren't we one coach less than last year?

Duques102 wrote:

What is more Duquesne basketball then your basically second head coach leaving and then internally promoting a guy who played college BASEBALL. And then on top of it don't have an asoociate head coach, which literally women's tennis teams even have. You couldn't make this sh*t up. 

Classic!

How can you criticize a guy for playing baseball in college. I mean there TONS of coaches that coach in D1 that never played basketball, ahhh ill give you an A10 name... WILL WADE. Oh yeah, the guy that beat Purdue in the NCAA tournament, that ended up getting the head job at Texas Tech. 
If thats not enough for you, he played basketball d3 for one year, and coached in the Dleague for one of the best organizations in the NBA, where players bounce back and forth between D league and NBA. So i think this guy may know a thing or two about basketball.... Just saying

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Steel city AJ wrote:

How can you criticize a guy for playing baseball in college. I mean there TONS of coaches that coach in D1 that never played basketball, ahhh ill give you an A10 name... WILL WADE. Oh yeah, the guy that beat Purdue in the NCAA tournament, that ended up getting the head job at Texas Tech. 
If thats not enough for you, he played basketball d3 for one year, and coached in the Dleague for one of the best organizations in the NBA, where players bounce back and forth between D league and NBA. So i think this guy may know a thing or two about basketball.... Just saying

 
Sorry, SCAJ, but Will Wade's accomplishments being a predictor for Brian Baudinet's ability to coach is roughly equal to Brian Colleary hiring Darelle Porter because Seton Hall had hired Tommy Amaker. Of course it would be jolly if he became Wade some day, but having a similar unqualified background is not really a striking reason to hire someone.

That said, there's nothing wrong with developing and promoting someone, which is really the best justification for this hire. My only concern is the losing atmosphere in which he was developed and promoted.

We've had four years of "this is the way Jimmy Ferry does things." LIU had to wait nine years for the magic to happen. The A10 is not -- NOT -- a conference in which you can get lucky once in a while. Despite the addition of Smith, the freshmen and the transfers, I won't get my hopes up until I see the way this team plays.

If it's another year of cross midcourt and shoot, don't worry about defense, and don't develop anyone, I guarantee you Ferry will never post a winning season here. Even our brain dead administration will recognize it doesn't make sense to spend more than $3 million on Amodio's biggest blunder.