Wish him luck & let's move on. He'll actually have two years of eligibility.

ElDuque wrote:

Wish him luck & let's move on. He'll actually have two years of eligibility.

How? He was a sophomore and left in the middle of the season. Didn't go closer to home (way further), no hardship. Why doesnt he have to sit a year?

rogabee wrote:

Eligibility is different than sitting out a year.  Next year would be his "redshirt" year and he'd have two seasons left to play after sitting out next year.
 

So why did Soko have to sit his junior year and only get one year here? I don't think he used a red shirt at uab? Tarin smith I read has three years of eligibility here. Did they recently change this rule? Not disagreeing only asking because I'm not as familiar with the rule as I previously thought.

ElDuque wrote:

The rule about eligibility has never changed. You get four years of varsity ball at the collegiate level. You have to complete your eligibility within a consecutive six year period. If you transfer after a season has ended, you keep how many years you have left, but have to sit out a year.

If you transfer after December, you sit out a full year and become eligible once the Spring semester begins.

Soko played three years and nearly 90 games at UAB. He wasn't cheated out of any time. Smith played one season at Nebraska.

Tony Petrarca, when he was here, was injured one season and received a medical exemption for essentially a fifth season. Mickey Davilla completed his career over I think seven years, again because of a medical exemption. Micah Mason didn't have to sit out a year because of a medical exemption.

Grad students are treated differently. If you earn your degree after three years of eligibility you get to transfer without sitting out a year. If Soko had graduated after his junior year he would have played right away.

The irony or hypocrisy is that a coach can up and leave anytime even if he has 10'years left on a contract but a player is stuck having to wait out a year in most cases.

That in my mind is the real problem.

Thanks for the clarification. A couple years ago I was strongly on the side of students not being paid and the fact that there education was compensation enough. However, after more and more stories about kids being hungry, kids not being able to pay off campus rent, and all the stupid things these coaches (Patino, Patrino) get away with with nothing affecting their fat, multi million dollar contracts, I've totally changed my mind, it's total BS. The product on the court/field is what brings in the revenue for the University and pays these coaches, and these kids get a free lunch and a pair of shoes?

And like you said El D, these guys can up and leave whenever they want, Look at the Arkansas Little Rock coach. Good season, jumped ship to UNLV, two weeks later jumps ship and lands at Texas Tech. The coaches and the players work off of completely different sets of expectations, ethics, standards, and compensation. It is truly wrong at this point with the amount of money being generated by these kids, the fact that they see none of it is borderline criminal.

Duques102 wrote:

ElDuque wrote:

The rule about eligibility has never changed. You get four years of varsity ball at the collegiate level. You have to complete your eligibility within a consecutive six year period. If you transfer after a season has ended, you keep how many years you have left, but have to sit out a year.

If you transfer after December, you sit out a full year and become eligible once the Spring semester begins.

Soko played three years and nearly 90 games at UAB. He wasn't cheated out of any time. Smith played one season at Nebraska.

Tony Petrarca, when he was here, was injured one season and received a medical exemption for essentially a fifth season. Mickey Davilla completed his career over I think seven years, again because of a medical exemption. Micah Mason didn't have to sit out a year because of a medical exemption.

Grad students are treated differently. If you earn your degree after three years of eligibility you get to transfer without sitting out a year. If Soko had graduated after his junior year he would have played right away.

The irony or hypocrisy is that a coach can up and leave anytime even if he has 10'years left on a contract but a player is stuck having to wait out a year in most cases.

That in my mind is the real problem.

Thanks for the clarification. A couple years ago I was strongly on the side of students not being paid and the fact that there education was compensation enough. However, after more and more stories about kids being hungry, kids not being able to pay off campus rent, and all the stupid things these coaches (Patino, Patrino) get away with with nothing affecting their fat, multi million dollar contracts, I've totally changed my mind, it's total BS. The product on the court/field is what brings in the revenue for the University and pays these coaches, and these kids get a free lunch and a pair of shoes?

And like you said El D, these guys can up and leave whenever they want, Look at the Arkansas Little Rock coach. Good season, jumped ship to UNLV, two weeks later jumps ship and lands at Texas Tech. The coaches and the players work off of completely different sets of expectations, ethics, standards, and compensation. It is truly wrong at this point with the amount of money being generated by these kids, the fact that they see none of it is borderline criminal.

The problem with the whole pay issue is that there has to be revenue. People look at the revenues of a few football programs and then assume that all schools make lots of  money on sports. The truth is most schools lose money on athletics. Even people who advocate for the paying of athletes have no idea how to make it work. I believe the current system should remain in place. The only issue I see is with video games where they used players' likenesses

ElDuque wrote:

Different situation between Powell and McConnell. I don't know why Tysean left; TJ bolted to, as Luis Tiant once said so eloquently, "play with a weeeeener." 

I agree with El D Bilgy. I would have graduated with TJ and he was a great player and it totally blew that he left, but in my eyes his reasons were honorable. I love Duquesne and being an alum but when I was playing soccer there if a school like UNC came calling, I woulda been gone in a New York minute. I'll never bash a kid for trying to seek out the best personal opportunities for themselves, and he absolutely made the most of it. He would probably never be in the NBA today had he stayed and I can accept that, that's why I'm still a fan of his. Every time that kid stepped on the court for us he busted his ass for the name on his chest and his teammates and I won't forget that.

Powell on the other hand, multiple suspensions for violations of team rules, poor body language throughout his time here. We discussed it on this board many a time that there was visible tension between he and Ferry throughout his time here. Would give it his all to make a sportscenter highlight reel type dunk and half ass go for rebounds on the other end. Sorry El D, I stand by what I said about him. Selfish punk. You could tell how much he hated coming off the bench. you're a sophomore, you're time will come. Clearly didn't understand that concept. He was a good player that could have became great, instead opted to take the easy route and go play for some weak school in a weak conference so he could be the man. Good riddance, it's attitudes like that on your team that help get you .500 records. I'll take a slightly less talented guy that can play within a team concept any day,