=18px"They could transfer, which would mean leaving their school of choice and losing a year of playing eligibility per NCAA rules."

Guys, I remember specifically bringing up this question a couple months ago and people telling me you dont lose a year of eligibility, you use a red shirt year? What is the actual rule on this. This was my original understanding but many on this board said you don't lose a year of eligibility. Is it you can use a redshirt year if you have one?

Did this rule change recently, why does a major news publication not have a correct understanding either?

Last edited by Duques102 (7/21/2016 2:19 pm)

applecorps wrote:

Duques102 wrote:

=18px"They could transfer, which would mean leaving their school of choice and losing a year of playing eligibility per NCAA rules."

Guys, I remember specifically bringing up this question a couple months ago and people telling me you dont lose a year of eligibility, you use a red shirt year? What is the actual rule on this. This was my original understanding but many on this board said you don't lose a year of eligibility. Is it you can use a redshirt year if you have one?

The transfer athlete does not lose a year of eligibility. The player must sit out a year, unless an exception is requested and granted. The sit-out year is not really a redshirt, It's just a year in which the transfer player can work out with the team, but can't suit up and play.

The sit-out year is one of the causes of  there being so many players who graduate academically and still have a year of eligibility. Once graduated, there is no requirement to sit a year out if the player transfers to another school
 

My understanding (I am too lazy to look it up) is that an athlete has 5 years to use his 4 years of eligibility.  So if for example, if a player sits out his freshman year and then transfers transfers after his junior year (using only two years eligibility and not graduating) he would have to sit out one year at the new school (his senior year) and then only have one year of eligibility.  Then again if I really wanted to be sure I would check the NCAA website.

CLK wrote:

On another note, Orlando Antigua (who many wanted to be hired here at DU) is in trouble with the NCAA at South Florida for academic fraud, and just read where he resigned.  

Once a Panther, always a Panther!
 

duq81 wrote:

KenOTR73 wrote:

CLK wrote:

On another note, Orlando Antigua (who many wanted to be hired here at DU) is in trouble with the NCAA at South Florida for academic fraud, and just read where he resigned.  

Once a Panther, always a Panther!
 

That's why he had to get away from Jamie Dixon. Jamie was actually the rare coach who tried to run a clean program (as clean as you can be in the college sports cesspool anyway). He's the highest quality person I can think of in Pitt athletics in my lifetime. When I think of all the snakes associated with the various regional programs over the years, it makes my skin crawl. Even we aren't immune here (BC anyone?). Of course, the biggest snake of all, turned out to be the person who had put himself on the highest pedestal. Any guesses who that might be? I'll give you a hint, he turned his back while young boys had their lives ruined.
 

I think Buzz Ridl was pretty decent but that was another era. Grgurich and Dr. Roy, nope.
 

CLK wrote:

My understanding (I am too lazy to look it up) is that an athlete has 5 years to use his 4 years of eligibility.  So if for example, if a player sits out his freshman year and then transfers transfers after his junior year (using only two years eligibility and not graduating) he would have to sit out one year at the new school (his senior year) and then only have one year of eligibility.  Then again if I really wanted to be sure I would check the NCAA website.

This is exactly correct unless the NCAA grants an exception. 

The one caveat - if a student-athlete graduates but his undergraduate school does not have a program for the graduate degree he/she will be studying, they are free to go to any school of their choosing that has the graduate program they are looking for.  It's why there's such a high rate of graduate (5th year) transfers...those individuals are essentially free agents as they can pretty much pick their school given the wealth of differences in graduate degrees offered throughout the country.

Yeah we get it. I don't think anyone would argue thats the lowest of the low right there.

Last edited by Duques102 (7/22/2016 9:43 am)

I must have missed the John Wooden stuff. Can anyone fill me in on his sins?

RE: Levon's comments - I certainly am disappointed in Joe Paterno based on the allegations because whether you like him or not he certainly had the right attitude at least on the face of it re: college football, academics and the university.

Of course there is no excuse for what happened to these kids.  I try to think back on what the times were like when some of this started to come to light, supposedly in the 70's.  It doesn't surprise me that someone like Paterno may have viewed it within a much different mindset than there is today when people seem more aware of issues like this and speak more openly about it than they may have back then.  That's no excuse for ignoring something obvious, if he did, but I also wonder how obvious some of this would have been to many at that time. 

I don't know if I'm explaining this well and am certainly not trying to make excuses for what was and is a  horrible situation.  Just trying to understand how someone who seemed at least to have a much higher view of life, education and sports  compared to other coaches and universities would have been so ignorant as to let this just pass by without comment.  That's what makes it seem difficult to fully believe and comprehend.