Is Duquesne getting paid to go to Lexington in that Bluegrass Tournament?

They need to go 10-3 against that ooc schedule. If they go 11-2, there should be no complaints on this board.

Before I predict records I usually determine who I think is a  definite loss. For me, I see Kentucky as the only definite. I would put Pitt in the probable loss category (that sounds negative but I've literally NEVER seen us beat them). I look at Penn State at about a 50/50 proposition. I see every other game as a should win, although I do expect Cleveland state to be a tough test because they always have a solid program.

so for me I would agree we should at least be 10-3 that gives you Kentucky, Pitt, and then either penn state or Cleveland state. I would be ok with that. I would love for 11-2 with 2/3 between psu, Pitt, and Cleveland state. Anything less than 10-3 would be disappointing.....again

Duques102 wrote:

Before I predict records I usually determine who I think is a definite loss. For me, I see Kentucky as the only definite. I would put Pitt in the probable loss category (that sounds negative but I've literally NEVER seen us beat them). I look at Penn State at about a 50/50 proposition. I see every other game as a should win, although I do expect Cleveland state to be a tough test because they always have a solid program.

so for me I would agree we should at least be 10-3 that gives you Kentucky, Pitt, and then either penn state or Cleveland state. I would be ok with that. I would love for 11-2 with 2/3 between psu, Pitt, and Cleveland state. Anything less than 10-3 would be disappointing.....again

Agree! 9-4 is the absolute worst record we can have, and still end up having an acceptable season. That would require a .500 record in league play. 18-13 overall is my floor. Can't do worse than that. Provided they don't go out in the first round of the A10 tournament, I can live with that for now. That would be a "Ron-like" record of at least 19 wins, and that would be ok, FOR NOW! Can't stay in that neighborhood though. 19 wins this year, 22 next year. Now I'm smiling. Those are reasonable expectations.
 

applecorps wrote:

currentstudent wrote:

You guys really don't think we have a shot against UK? Come on...we have some players!

By JF's rationale, Kentucky should struggle, since every year they have a "young" team. Should be an easy W, right?

Low blow, don't you think?
 

applecorps wrote:

duq81 wrote:

applecorps wrote:

By JF's rationale, Kentucky should struggle, since every year they have a "young" team. Should be an easy W, right?

Low blow, don't you think?
 

No, not a low blow. It was obviously a joke. At least I thought it was obvious.

Seemed like a shot at our coach to me. He gets beaten up enough on this board. I was hoping we could at least wait until the first bad loss to start in on him this year.
 

Yeah not a low blow at all. Last year I got everyone and their mother to come to the Pitt game and we looked like a high school JV team. I had to sit through loses like the Dayton one where the Flyers were colder than the arctic circle but we still couldn't beat them.

He's getting paid so much money for a 16th, 10th, 11th, and 10th placed position in our conference. 

Any fan that take a shot at his rhetoric has every right to do so.

I hope to god he find whatever he needs to find and he becomes the best coach in the world...but as of right now...he is still a dud. 

Kentucky has plenty of turnover, but it isn't generally transfers. They get the top talent, then their players leave early for the NBA. That was my reference to them always having a young team. .  

I'm not calling anybody out by the way, but el duque, please be specific as to who you are referring to in terms of transfers not being prevelant.

And please give me the names of the "Congo line" and "top recruits". I wasn't aware anyone of that caliber coming in....tysean Powell or lg gill? Guys who had their best offer being Duquesne??? The guy who got to live out his dream of playing for a national power who will finally get to experience the tourney berth he dreamed of as a kid after working hard for us for three years or the jerk who found a better personal situation for himself who was never committed to this team in the first place? Please give more detail.

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Once Duquesne had an assistant (DAP) who brought in a Canadian player with a lot of promise, a coaching change saw an inexperienced head coach named and his player Wayne Smith begin careers together. Smith was a prolific scorer as an ideal size ( 6-7 ) forward but he played on an overmatched and poorly coached teams. By the time of his senior year, any NBA talk had faded and he never had the Wayne Smith Era.

I tell this story to illustrate Duquesne and today's college basketball, bright young freshman come here with dreams and are worn out by continued mediocre results , RE was our best success story and it was only about a 500% tenure, Ferry is typical of our coaching records since the Red Manning Era.

They, like most teams, now have transferring out being a salvation, few have success like McConnell did, most just end up somewhere else.

Ty Powell left Duquesne and ended up at Pacific, which is in Compton, Calif., a place that the folks in near by Oakland are glad they don't live there!

Good luck to all newcomers and former Dukes, hope you can win sometime and give us a little hope.

Phoenix,

1. You know I respect you and your posts.

2. I think we usually agree.

3. I'm not impressed by Pacific's credentials. The moment you compared them to us, my first thought was that, what, 250 programs in the country are better or in better shape? But 150 to 200 of them don't jump off the page at me.

So, respectfully I disagree.

Peace.

ED, I was taking dramatic license to make a point, so I deserved to be called out on it. (And Phildog, sorry for the jab.) The point I wanted to make is that many programs like Pacific are closer in quality today to the Dukes than many of us sometimes think, especially us who have long memories of better days on the Bluff.  The frustrating part is that A-10 conference, the TV exposure and the major city location give the Dukes' program so much upside if they can win; the Pacific's of the world would not be in this discussion. As your tag line says, I'm "sick of losing" too.