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2/07/2013 12:56 pm  #26


Re: Ferry's Post Game Interview!!!!!

Jeralta, a couple points. RE won way more games than he lost. He did, in fact, take personal responsibility for losses. Not that I'm going to do your research or anyone's. But he found ways to win.

Mr. Brightside, Ferry complimented his recruits and killed the holdovers. Where was the personnel assessment after Penn State humiliated Colter, who I still don't think is a PG who can take you anywhere?

I'm pretty fed up with this program right now. Amodio clearly crapped himself on the so-called upgrade. Someone contact me when the charade is over and these clowns are gone.

I'm outta here, McMahon.

 

2/07/2013 1:04 pm  #27


Re: Ferry's Post Game Interview!!!!!

While just about everyone completely understands that this is a mulligan year for Ferry, it is not unfair to judge him based on his current performance.  I have not seen anything to me to suggest that he is a "next level" coach from his game day strategy or coaching.  From what I have observed in the progression of these players he is not going to take average players and coach them up.  Moreover, he is not going to out coach many if any of the other coaches in the league.  I have said this before, if Ferry is going to take DU to the next level he is going to have to recruit beyond exceptionally well, in a league that recruits very well.

 

2/07/2013 2:33 pm  #28


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I do believe that 90% of success is the players recruited, the other 10% is the rapport that you have with them. Where do the X's and O's fit in? I can't believe tht Rick Pittino or John Calipari have more basketball knowledge than the average A-10 head coach. At this level, I believe the coaching is pretty even across the board. Any thoughts?

 

2/07/2013 3:10 pm  #29


Re: Ferry's Post Game Interview!!!!!

Jeralta wrote:

I was using this as a bright spot for ferry. Something we didnt seer prior. Find me a printed quote with RE taking personal blame and I will eat my phone

 
You're the one who made the original claim that Ron never took personal responsibility, so you're the one who has to document your claim. You made the claim. Prove it. And, if your reason for bringing Ron into the conversation is as you put it, "using this as a bright spot for Ferry", then it's a pretty p..s poor reason, because it is just another example of building Ferry up by tearing Ron down. Any time you or anybody else on this board does it, I'm going to respond.
And, by the way, where exactly is your head on Ferry? First, you say "grow up" then say he is taking responsibility - which is it?

 

2/07/2013 3:12 pm  #30


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There is no question that talent can make poor coaches look better. However, from my observation, coaching is not even across the board. There are difference in the quality of coaches just as there are differences in any profession. Coaching in my opinion encompasses a broad spectrum and his relationship with his players is just one. Teaching, player development, decision making, preparedness, situational understanding, game adjustments, play calling, demanding team discipline are all critical elements in being a good coach. There are differences.
 
 

 

2/07/2013 3:23 pm  #31


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All I know is that Coaches Cal, Pitino or Jamie would not have a 19-2 run happen before calling a time out. WTF


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2/07/2013 4:36 pm  #32


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CLK wrote:

While just about everyone completely understands that this is a mulligan year for Ferry, it is not unfair to judge him based on his current performance.  I have not seen anything to me to suggest that he is a "next level" coach from his game day strategy or coaching.  From what I have observed in the progression of these players he is not going to take average players and coach them up.  Moreover, he is not going to out coach many if any of the other coaches in the league.  I have said this before, if Ferry is going to take DU to the next level he is going to have to recruit beyond exceptionally well, in a league that recruits very well.

 
As I have said many times, I believe Coach Ferry deserves and needs at least 2-3 years before we know whether or not he is the coach who can take us to where we want to be. However, in spite of the trips to the dance the last 2 years at LIU, I consider that he did it in the NEC, it took him 8 years to do it and his career D-1 record before he got here was 150-149. In my opinion, there is little in this resume to suggest he is the "next level" coach some here seem to believe he is. We won't know for a few years.


 

 

2/07/2013 9:15 pm  #33


Re: Ferry's Post Game Interview!!!!!

steve19981 wrote:

Jackson40 wrote:

Jeralta wrote:

As we crucify ferry also note that he is quoted as saying "I guess it's my fault" for the loss. RE never took personal responsibility. I find this a refreshing attribute.

 
Jeralta --- I think that was FerrNEE's lame attempt at sarcasm.

I don't agree with that. I thought he was being geniune in accepting responsibility and did qualify by saying something along of the lines of 'it's his job to get the necessary effort out of these guys.'

I get that this is a bad season and that it's frustrating, but I seriously can't wrap my brain around the Danny Nee comps. If you think what we're getting out of Ferry is as bad as Nee you have a really short memory. I'm not at all happy with where the team is or the lack of progress they've made, but to write off Ferry after 20 games just makes little sense to me. Would you have done the same for Lonergan last year? Of course a lot of people writing him off now wrote him off before the season began anyway.

There is no excuse for the lack progress this team has made and there is no excuse for the effort on the floor last night. But for the love, give Ferry the opportunity to get his players in here and respect the fact that he is doing what he needs to to do win in the long run rather than the short run. We're not getting any 10/40's from him. They're playing his system whether they're ready for it or not talent wise and it should hopefully make the team better long run.  I gave 4 1/2 to 5 years before I thought it might be time to make a change with Ron and I wasn't absolute about it until TJ transfered. I'm giving Ferry as long and I do think people ought to be patient and give him a chance.

Steve I have to respecfully disagree with you on your point of the team playing his system for the long run. If this continues and he does not win a game in the A10 this year, what recruit wants to come here? What is there to gain by forcing a system on a group of players that is not what they are capable of playing. You play and compete to win, not loose. I don't care if it takes 10/40, 5/20, what ever. You have to win period, thats why you play the games. If next years recruits and upperclassmen are not suited for his style do we then sacrifice that year also, to ensure we get the last available recruit that can only dribble with his strong hand?

If the long run is to happen, he better find a way to win in the short run, or there will be the same dismal run of loosing pre- RE. Not a comparison, not opening RE vs. Ferry just a time line statement.

 

2/08/2013 10:38 am  #34


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CLK wrote:

There is no question that talent can make poor coaches look better. However, from my observation, coaching is not even across the board. There are difference in the quality of coaches just as there are differences in any profession. Coaching in my opinion encompasses a broad spectrum and his relationship with his players is just one. Teaching, player development, decision making, preparedness, situational understanding, game adjustments, play calling, demanding team discipline are all critical elements in being a good coach. There are differences.
 
 

You are right CLK. Maybe I was trying to simplify things a bit. My original point was and still is that without players no coach will do very well. Recruiting outweights every other aspect of building a program IMO.
 

 

2/08/2013 10:42 am  #35


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ElDuque wrote:

I'm pretty fed up with this program right now. Amodio clearly crapped himself on the so-called upgrade. Someone contact me when the charade is over and these clowns are gone.

I'm outta here, McMahon.

 
I'll be glad to wake you up in a few years ED, when Xavier and Dayton are in the new papal conference and the Dukes are playing in a one bid A-10 with the likes of St. Bonny and Fordham or worse, the A-10 folds and we're in the MAAC where we still won't be able to recruit, especially after Ferry gets Scott Edgared after the '15 seaon and Amodio finally gets canned!  And the Dukes will start their sixteenth or so  "Recommit to the Men's basketball team to bring the glory back to the Bluff."

I'll set the alarm.


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