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2/09/2013 8:14 am  #1


Xavier

No margin for error for impotent Dukes
By Paul Zeise / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/duquesne/no-margin-for-error-for-impotent-dukes-674059/

 

 

2/09/2013 8:19 am  #2


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CLK wrote:

No margin for error for impotent Dukes
By Paul Zeise / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



 

 
If being called IMPOTENT by Mr. Zeise doesn't motivate the Dukes tonight, then there truly is little hope left for this season. I expect the Dukes to come out fired UP tonight at the Consul. Lets cheer them on to victory!

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2/09/2013 8:57 am  #3


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Lauren I hope so.  This team is playing like a shadow of the team that came out and beat WVU.  Jerry & Kadeem have to step up.  Time for Kadeem to take off those wooden shoes he brought from back home and play like a D1 player. Jerry Jones needs to get out of his funk and start playing with the passion we have seen from him before.  Johnson needs to fix the wiring in his microwave and start showing some leadership.  One of our bigs need to grow some hands to catch the ball, and go strong to the hoop to score or draw fouls, and quit getting pushed around on defense.  The team needs to cut down the stupid turnovers, however, they need to stop worrying about being perfect.  Screw the margin of error BS go out and play the best you can and have fun.  To our coaches get in the freaking game.  Show some passion, slap the players on their a$$ when they make a good play, yell take your sports coat off, coach the darn team and build them up instead of tearing them down.  How would you like hear people in public calling your daughters ugly?   Our guys need to look inward, get pissed, and start showing some signs of life.  Go Dukes!

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2/09/2013 9:45 am  #4


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So is this massacre going to be on any kind of national tv, like CBS sports channel on Direct tv?  I figure I should at least attempt to watch one game of Jim Ferry's futile attempt to turn us into a medicore basketball program again.


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2/09/2013 10:17 am  #5


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It is on TW cable or you could try the video link below to watch it on your computer.

http://apps.ohlulz.com/ncaa/?lulz=rtmp://cp98724.live.edgefcs.net:1935/live&id=duqu_m-baskbl@31467
 

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2/09/2013 11:51 am  #6


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Any of the die hard fans DU going to the game.  Come on now, we know we are mutants.  There is something seriously wrong with us, but we are Duquesne fans that just can't give up.



 

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2/09/2013 3:37 pm  #7


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realtime rpi projects a 71-70 W.  At least we can hope.

 

2/09/2013 4:10 pm  #8


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Can't help but think X minus 7 points would be a good bet. I hope I'm wrong.

 

2/09/2013 4:35 pm  #9


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Any win would be a surprise.

 

2/09/2013 8:41 pm  #10


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Colter is 1 for 11 from the field.  He's taking a lot of wild a$$ shots.  Sean Johnson gets faked out of his jock and commits flagrant foul.  Dukes lose 10 pt. lead & now trail 58-51.  They just can't hang onto a lead when they get one.

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2/09/2013 11:57 pm  #11


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So sad. No reason to comment here. Nothing to say.

 

2/10/2013 6:42 am  #12


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Seems like Colter and Johnson have been scouted and defanged..
 


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2/10/2013 9:09 am  #13


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The Dukes up by 10 and Xavier goes on a 25-5 run. I am not going to say what I think but instead ask a question.  If you are the coach of the Dukes how long do you wait during the run to call a time out?  Ferry waited until the media time out when the run was 15-3.  Hey what do I know I am not a big time coach pulling down $600,000/yr.

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2/10/2013 10:24 am  #14


Re: Xavier

CLK wrote:

The Dukes up by 10 and Xavier goes on a 25-5 run. I am not going to say what I think but instead ask a question.  If you are the coach of the Dukes how long do you wait during the run to call a time out?  Ferry waited until the media time out when the run was 15-3.  Hey what do I know I am not a big time coach pulling down $600,000/yr.

Well, considering that the run was 10-2 after the time out, I don't know how much of a difference it would have made.

 

2/10/2013 11:24 am  #15


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duq81 wrote:

CLK wrote:

The Dukes up by 10 and Xavier goes on a 25-5 run. I am not going to say what I think but instead ask a question.  If you are the coach of the Dukes how long do you wait during the run to call a time out?  Ferry waited until the media time out when the run was 15-3.  Hey what do I know I am not a big time coach pulling down $600,000/yr.

Well, considering that the run was 10-2 after the time out, I don't know how much of a difference it would have made.

 
OK, fair enough, but what did he do differently after the time out?  Did he call any set plays?  If he did they were well disguised to me. Did he try Abele on their big guy who was having his way?  Look to me it is the coaches job to help figure out ways stop the runs.

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2/10/2013 11:55 am  #16


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CLK wrote:

duq81 wrote:

CLK wrote:

The Dukes up by 10 and Xavier goes on a 25-5 run. I am not going to say what I think but instead ask a question.  If you are the coach of the Dukes how long do you wait during the run to call a time out?  Ferry waited until the media time out when the run was 15-3.  Hey what do I know I am not a big time coach pulling down $600,000/yr.

Well, considering that the run was 10-2 after the time out, I don't know how much of a difference it would have made.

 
OK, fair enough, but what did he do differently after the time out?  Did he call any set plays?  If he did they were well disguised to me. Did he try Abele on their big guy who was having his way?  Look to me it is the coaches job to help figure out ways stop the runs.

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Well, after the timeout, the run continued at a 10-2 clip. But that was after the run lasted too long before the timeout, and it gets tougher, mentally, to reverse a bad run the longer it goes on. (Or so it seems.)

 

 

2/10/2013 1:44 pm  #17


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CLK wrote:

The Dukes up by 10 and Xavier goes on a 25-5 run. I am not going to say what I think but instead ask a question.  If you are the coach of the Dukes how long do you wait during the run to call a time out?  Ferry waited until the media time out when the run was 15-3.  Hey what do I know I am not a big time coach pulling down $600,000/yr.

If you're going to critisize coaching last night, I don't think timeout usage is your best platform. Personally, I thought Ferry used his TO's more wisely than Chris Mack did.  What I found questionable was how Ferry didn't go to his bench before the 8 minutes mark in spite of players like Marhold and Q looking visibly fatigue starting about the 10 minute mark. When I get to the ten point lead, I begin to get cycling my 2nd half starters to the bench without taking all of them out at once. Then you go full strength from the 5 minute mark on. Maybe you don't falter from the 12-6 minute mark when you're first playing tired players and then taking out half the lineup that was playing well at once. Maybe you have more energy to make a real push in the final minutes of the game. 

 

2/10/2013 3:18 pm  #18


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steve19981 wrote:

CLK wrote:

The Dukes up by 10 and Xavier goes on a 25-5 run. I am not going to say what I think but instead ask a question.  If you are the coach of the Dukes how long do you wait during the run to call a time out?  Ferry waited until the media time out when the run was 15-3.  Hey what do I know I am not a big time coach pulling down $600,000/yr.

If you're going to critisize coaching last night, I don't think timeout usage is your best platform. Personally, I thought Ferry used his TO's more wisely than Chris Mack did.  What I found questionable was how Ferry didn't go to his bench before the 8 minutes mark in spite of players like Marhold and Q looking visibly fatigue starting about the 10 minute mark. When I get to the ten point lead, I begin to get cycling my 2nd half starters to the bench without taking all of them out at once. Then you go full strength from the 5 minute mark on. Maybe you don't falter from the 12-6 minute mark when you're first playing tired players and then taking out half the lineup that was playing well at once. Maybe you have more energy to make a real push in the final minutes of the game. 

Steve, I am not looking for a platform, just pointing out that Ferry and staff did not do their part in stopping the run including player substitution and adjustments.  There were a lot of folks on the various boards and twitter universe that use to critisize Ron as a poor game day coach. Ferry was touted as an upgrade by our AD.  I don't see it in his game day coaching.   Hopefully he can recruit.  As I said previously for him to get us to the next level he will have to recruit exceptionally well in a league that recruits very well.

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2/10/2013 4:57 pm  #19


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I'd say this was probably the first game of Ferry's tenure where the coaching really factored into the outcome on the negative side. I feel better about Ferry on the bench than I do Ron and contrary to your previous post to duq81, there is a lot more structure and sets/set plays to the Ferry offense. You should go back and breakdown film over a few games and you'll notice some repeated sets and plays. We've seen a lot of double high screen, pick and rolls and a few others that I can't recall the name Ferry gives them. A big problem is that Abele is the only guy who sets a decent screen. Ferry has shown an understanding of how to break down a 2-3 zone. Inboudning plays exist though they're not used as often as I'd like. While I'm not thrilled with Ferry's TO management, I think it's better than Ron's. I can't recall many games where Ron called two TO's in the first half when they were needed and a number where he didn't call any. I don't think losing the "use it or lose it" TO is that big of a deal but Ferry has used every single one. I see a lot more punch counter punch with the current staff. If a opposing coach makes an adjustment, we adjust back. I like how Ferry uses his assistants.

Still Ferry is a pretty system based coach just like Ron was. He relies on players executing the way he teaches them to more than he does controling the game. Problem is he doesn't have his players in place. I suspect he'll look a lot more clever when he gets the type of players he needs with experience to execute his gameplan.

 

2/10/2013 6:05 pm  #20


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Steve, I am not going to get into a debate with you over Ron's verses Ferry's game day coaching because it is pointless.  I do not see the structure that you do in Ferry's offense.  I mostly see half hearted picks with our bigs never getting the ball on the roll, poor passing, excessive dribbling, no disicipline, and  a lot of hoisted treys. If you feel better with Ferry on the bench, good for you.  You are certainly entitled to your opinion.  To me Ferry is no upgrade, and certainly not what I expected from the advertised "next level" coach.

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2/10/2013 9:17 pm  #21


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CLK wrote:

poor passing, excessive dribbling, no disicipline, and  a lot of hoisted treys.

If we were playing the $10,000 Pyramid, my guess would be "things freshman guards do."

 

2/11/2013 7:11 am  #22


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LOL, however the category was "what you don't expect from a next level coached team".  My point was about the coach and him being touted as a next level coach.  One would expect to see a team getting better as the season progresses with better passing, more ball movement and ball reversal, better disicipline, and more structure from the highly touted upgrade to a next level coach.

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2/11/2013 9:41 am  #23


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What I did not see on Saturday was a team that had quit on their coach. I saw a team that played hard but was simply outmanned once again. Ferry said that he was starting from scratch, didn't he. Maybe he knew exactly what he was talking about. Recruiting, recruiting, recruiting!!

 

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