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1/12/2017 6:17 am  #1


Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

This link is only for those who "were there," please. Just trying to get a tally of DU fans who have actual memories.

I watched the game on a shaky black and white TV in the 5 St. Martin's lounge. Set had about a 12 inch screen and 10 of us watched fuzzy reception made fuzzier by a couple sixes of Arns.

If you don't want to identify your age ("I had just checked into the retirement home...") just say "I remember."

Please, this thread just for this topic.

 

1/12/2017 7:05 am  #2


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I remember. I was more happy for Norm Nixon than anything else. I realized the team got lucky when Keith Herron sprained his ankle and couldn't go in the league championship game, but I was happy that Norm was finally going to get to play in the tournament.
I also remember the early 70s teams, which was the last time we had teams that could really run with the big dogs. 45 years later, we're still waiting.

 

1/12/2017 8:27 am  #3


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Indeed I recall that visit to The Tournament.
​I graduated in '74 and was a freshmen for the team that went to the '71 tourney after beating the likes of Notre Dame, Villanova and Creighton. It always seemed then the Dukes were just a bit away from a return to that form. It didn't realize the slide had begun.
​Come on, Ken and Dave, bring it back.

 

1/12/2017 9:20 am  #4


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

kneeguy wrote:

Indeed I recall that visit to The Tournament.
​I graduated in '74 and was a freshmen for the team that went to the '71 tourney after beating the likes of Notre Dame, Villanova and Creighton. It always seemed then the Dukes were just a bit away from a return to that form. It didn't realize the slide had begun.
​Come on, Ken and Dave, bring it back.

I really thought we were back in the fall of 1979. We won our first 7 games. We went to Philly and handled a very good Villanova team without Bruce Atkins, who was ejected after getting into a scuffle with John Pinone. We were getting votes for the Top 20, and had a feature story in Eastern Basketball. Then we did our annual swoon down the stretch. The team was loaded, and I haven't felt that way about a Dukes team since.
 

 

1/12/2017 10:35 am  #5


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

I watched that game in my parents living room - with 20+ family/friends - on a 19 inch screen console box TV as part of a Duquesne watch party.  I was 9.  (My dad was a prof in the School of Education for 30+ years.)

I remember wearing a navy blue DU t-shirt, fighting for carpet space to see the TV along w/my 3 sisters, and being totally confused on the outcome - how Norm Nixon & team could lose to a school with 3 letters as a name.

 

1/12/2017 11:03 am  #6


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I went to almost every home game that year, as in prior years. A pre season basketball magazine, Street and Smith I think,  reviewed those Dukes in pre season summary, " This team will go as far as Norman Nixon can finess them" how true, but Don Maser got hot at the end of the season and he along with forward Donnie " Gumby" Gamebridge pulled out the conference championship and got into the NCAA drawing the VMI Keydets lead by Perry High's Ron Carter who along with Norman was a number one draft pick by the NBA Lakers after that season, along with Mikey Davis little brother, Brad of Maryland and Lefty Drissell. Slick became the starter of the trio and a star in the NBA.

I was disappointed by the loss, I thought we could win, and had no idea that it would be the last NCAA I would see the Dukes in. I was 29 at the time, and already a die hard fan....


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1/12/2017 12:16 pm  #7


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

duq81 wrote:

kneeguy wrote:

Indeed I recall that visit to The Tournament.
​I graduated in '74 and was a freshmen for the team that went to the '71 tourney after beating the likes of Notre Dame, Villanova and Creighton. It always seemed then the Dukes were just a bit away from a return to that form. It didn't realize the slide had begun.
​Come on, Ken and Dave, bring it back.

I really thought we were back in the fall of 1979. We won our first 7 games. We went to Philly and handled a very good Villanova team without Bruce Atkins, who was ejected after getting into a scuffle with John Pinone. We were getting votes for the Top 20, and had a feature story in Eastern Basketball. Then we did our annual swoon down the stretch. The team was loaded, and I haven't felt that way about a Dukes team since.
 

The '80-81 team had a shot by virtue of playing Pitt in the EAA championship game. I watched that in a bar -- the first Duquesne game I remember being on TV since the early 1970s.

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1/12/2017 12:48 pm  #8


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

ElDuque wrote:

duq81 wrote:

kneeguy wrote:

Indeed I recall that visit to The Tournament.
​I graduated in '74 and was a freshmen for the team that went to the '71 tourney after beating the likes of Notre Dame, Villanova and Creighton. It always seemed then the Dukes were just a bit away from a return to that form. It didn't realize the slide had begun.
​Come on, Ken and Dave, bring it back.

I really thought we were back in the fall of 1979. We won our first 7 games. We went to Philly and handled a very good Villanova team without Bruce Atkins, who was ejected after getting into a scuffle with John Pinone. We were getting votes for the Top 20, and had a feature story in Eastern Basketball. Then we did our annual swoon down the stretch. The team was loaded, and I haven't felt that way about a Dukes team since.
 

The '80-81 team had a shot by virtue of playing Pitt in the EAA championship game. I watched that in a bar -- the first Duquesne game I remember being on TV since the early 1970s.

The 80-81 team was one of my favorites. It overachieved, but I never thought it had a chance to be elite, especially with two of it's key players being seniors. I thought the 79 team might be like the 69 team, the start of a run as an elite team.
 

 

1/12/2017 6:26 pm  #9


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

I remember.  Didn't travel to Raleigh, NC for that game; still kicking myself for not doing that. And I can't believe that there has never been another opportunity to do so.  I will not miss the next one, God willing.

Here's the box score:
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/1977-03-12-duquesne.html

I did attend the 1971 game vs. Penn at the WVU Coliseum. And attended the 1970 NIT game vs. Georgia Tech at Madison Square Garden. Again, I never would have believed that it would all disappear.

 

1/12/2017 8:02 pm  #10


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

I was just a couple years graduated at the time. Recollections of the actual game are gone.  I would have seared the game into my my mind if there was any way of knowing the program might never be back in my lifetime. 

 

1/12/2017 8:33 pm  #11


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

Watched the game but don't have any memories of it. Long time ago.

 

1/12/2017 9:38 pm  #12


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

I remember it well, and travelled to the game via a rented Winnebago with several other insane recent Duquesne grads.  It was a memorable trip, despite the loss.
Sad that it was the last hurrah for a once very successful program.

 

1/13/2017 11:00 am  #13


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

Sad to say I remember the "69" and "71" appearances better than "77". The loss to North Carolina in "69" on the phantom basket by Charlie Scott, I believe would have sent us to the East Regional Final. Younger guys may not know that was when it was a 16 team field!!!!

 

1/13/2017 11:56 am  #14


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So far 11 of us. Our fraternity is shrinking faster than the universe of WWII vets.

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1/13/2017 12:36 pm  #15


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

The Dome wrote:

Sad to say I remember the "69" and "71" appearances better than "77". The loss to North Carolina in "69" on the phantom basket by Charlie Scott, I believe would have sent us to the East Regional Final. Younger guys may not know that was when it was a 16 team field!!!!

There were 25 teams in the field that year. The Dukes beat St. Joe's to advance to the round of 16. That year was the high point of Dukes basketball, post Si Green.
 

 

1/13/2017 3:31 pm  #16


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

Thanks 81, was my memory correct about Charlie Scott?  I think the officials called goal tending on one of the Nelsons. Scott had missed the lay up and no one had either touched the rim or hit the back board.
They also played a game against St.John's I believe that was a regional consolidation game that gave them a 3rd place finish in the region when they won the game. It was prelim to the championship game of the East Region.

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1/13/2017 3:52 pm  #17


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

The Dome wrote:

Thanks 81, was my memory correct about Charlie Scott? I think the officials called goal tending on one of the Nelsons. Scott had missed the lay up and no one had either touched the rim or hit the back board.
They also played a game against St.John's I believe that was a regional consolidation game that gave them a 3rd place finish in the region.

I can't remember the play, but Scott was indeed the star player for Carolina. That team really put Duquesne back on the national map.
 

 

1/13/2017 4:01 pm  #18


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That game was a heart breaker but the real  disapointment was the70-71 year when we had one of the tallest starting lineups in the country G Nelson, B Nelson 6-10, Davis 6-7, Durham 6-5 , Mike Barr 6-3 . ( this was when some forwards were 6-3 and center were 6-6 on many teams.

We were slated to play UCLA but Pitt upset us in first game of the Steel Bowl, then we were highly rated all year, even won all 3 on a brutal Western Road trip by beating All -America Cyirl Baptiest and Creighton, then San Francisco and also Santa Clara ( I think).

The upset to Penn and then Mickey Davis quitting school and losing three of Reds great recruits in the Billingy class after the freshman year, and the fall was in free form....


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1/13/2017 4:19 pm  #19


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

duq81 wrote:

The Dome wrote:

Thanks 81, was my memory correct about Charlie Scott? I think the officials called goal tending on one of the Nelsons. Scott had missed the lay up and no one had either touched the rim or hit the back board.
They also played a game against St.John's I believe that was a regional consolidation game that gave them a 3rd place finish in the region.

I can't remember the play, but Scott was indeed the star player for Carolina. That team really put Duquesne back on the national map.
 

 
After that game NC coach Dean Smith ( later a legend ) said Our Soph  shooting guard Jarrett " The Jewel" Durham was one of the best sophomore's they had ever faced.


A diehard fan since 1961
 

1/13/2017 4:38 pm  #20


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

The Dome wrote:

Thanks 81, was my memory correct about Charlie Scott?  I think the officials called goal tending on one of the Nelsons. Scott had missed the lay up and no one had either touched the rim or hit the back board.
They also played a game against St.John's I believe that was a regional consolidation game that gave them a 3rd place finish in the region when they won the game. It was prelim to the championship game of the East Region.

Dome, Charlie Scott hit a contested 20 foot jump shot with 2 seconds left to beat the Dukes. No controversy on the game winner, just broken hearts.

 

1/13/2017 5:05 pm  #21


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Phildog wrote:

That game was a heart breaker but the real disapointment was the70-71 year when we had one of the tallest starting lineups in the country G Nelson, B Nelson 6-10, Davis 6-7, Durham 6-5 , Mike Barr 6-3 . ( this was when some forwards were 6-3 and center were 6-6 on many teams.

We were slated to play UCLA but Pitt upset us in first game of the Steel Bowl, then we were highly rated all year, even won all 3 on a brutal Western Road trip by beating All -America Cyirl Baptiest and Creighton, then San Francisco and also Santa Clara ( I think).

The upset to Penn and then Mickey Davis quitting school and losing three of Reds great recruits in the Billingy class after the freshman year, and the fall was in free form....

That Penn game was no upset. Penn was undefeated, and had won the Big 5, beating Kenny Durrett led LaSalle, and Howard Porter led Villanova. Penn was ranked 3rd in the nation when they met Villanova in the Eastern Regional Final, where in the most famous game in Big 5 history, Villanova shocked the unbeaten Quakers 90-47. Villanova went on to give UCLA their toughest championship game in the Wooden era, losing 68-62. This was a Nova team that Duquesne defeated during the regular season.

I would disagree that the 70-71 team was the most disappointing though. The 69-70 team was ranked in the Top 10 going into the season, based on the fact that Billy Zopf, the Nelsons, and Jarrett Durham were all returning from the previous year's Top 10 team. The team stumbled early, and never made it back into the rankings, ending up in the NIT, where they were quickly eliminated.

 

1/13/2017 7:40 pm  #22


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The following is rated PG.  Children under the age of 65 should not partake.
 
I was at all the games mentioned above: New York, a blast; Morgantown, a bitter disappointment, but we did manage to sneak in a record amount of beer (So testified by WVU Security); and VMI was a blur.
 
Duquesne VS. VMI in the NCAAs; how cool was that?  So cool that the greater assembly of Reges were going.  Going in a Winnebago we rented with nickels and dimes.  On it, we loaded beer, liquor, a massive cache of drugs (Courtesy of our Pharmacy School members), a half pound of lousy Mexican herb, and young women from the Wilma Boyd Academy.  Hell, old Wilma herself might have been aboard, such was our muddled celebratory state.  The trip to North Carolina State was most memorable.  Yet, to report it in graphic detail would change our PG rating to XXX.  Suffice it to say, the trip would have made Hunter S. Thompson blush. 
 
Miraculously our mighty Winnebago - and mightily trashed - delivered us to our hotel.  After a bit of sleep, we set off for the game.  Countless acquaintances, also at the hotel, came along, jamming the vehicle to the gills; so much so that the motor home practically road on its rims.  The late great Darnell Roebuck was amongst the throng.  One look around and Darnell knew he had gotten on the right conveyance.  Our pregame parking lot extravaganza brought yet more to our gathering, including VMI cadets who knew a good thing when they saw it.  Ranking officers bedecked in gold braid happened by.  The VMI Cadets immediately snapped to attention, which inspired one of our own, the inimitable Smacko.  He hailed the passing officers with, "Hey Colonel, I eat your chicken!"  And that was the last we saw of our   cadet friends.
 
As to the game, I will say this much, Duquesne was, by far, the better team.  But it was practically a home game for nearby VMI and things went badly.  Badly in the form of the refereeing.  We got hosed; hosed as bad as any hosing I'd seen; Cliff Fair was Pope Paul compared to these two mooks. Now I must admit that I had been drinking.  Still, I knew a cheating when I saw one.  The VMI crowd was thrilled by the outcome; I was not.  To that end I adjourned to the tunnel to vent on the refs.  Among the players came the jagoffs.  I upbraided the nearest, who turned out to be the renowned NFL official, Ben "He's givin him the business" Drieth.  Ben upbraided me right back.  So I slugged him.  Or was it a push?  Anyway calls went out for the cops.  At that dire moment, Norman Nixon, a close friend, gave me the best advice I've ever gotten in my life.  He called me by my last name and said"...RUN!"  So run I did, back into the stands, where my savvy cohorts disguised me with a coat and hat.  In the end, I skated.
 
I take no pride in relating this; and offer my sincere apology to Ben Drieth, you cheating bastard.  We drove home   in the gloomy Winnebago.  The Wilma Boyd contingent wisely found other transportation. "We'll get them next year" was our firm belief.  Not of the Boyds, but of Duquesne’s powerhouse basketball program.  Regrettably, next year has turned into forty years...and counting.  But don't blame me.

 

1/13/2017 9:41 pm  #23


Re: Post on this link if you remember the 1977 NCAA Tournament

That was cool.

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