Darius Lewis will become the third player that Ferry recruited in five years to play here four years and graduate. Colter and Jones are the other two. We've had more than TWICE as many "4-year" players LEAVE during that time (Winters, Watkins, Powell, Jackson, Steele, Gill, Ridenour) after one or two years, as well as two JUCOs (Binney and White) who lasted one year each. Mason was here three years and Soko and McKoy two each (Ovie only played one).

This will be Ferry's fourth losing season in five years. The pinnacle of his success was a 17-17 campaign.

All the talk in the world about facilities & money means far less to me than the fact the our $3 million man, our next level coach, our "building the program brick by brick" guy, isn't cutting it.

 

Dukes2012, I certainly understand all of that, but after Lewis, you have two four year players scheduled to graduate next year and only one the year after that. Every player has unique circumstances. But playing and continuously losing in this system is certainly not an incentive to stay. Which leads back to my assertion that he does NOT know how to build a winning program. Two winning seasons in 15 years?

 

ElDuque wrote:

Darius Lewis will become the third player that Ferry recruited in five years to play here four years and graduate. Colter and Jones are the other two. We've had more than TWICE as many "4-year" players LEAVE during that time (Winters, Watkins, Powell, Jackson, Steele, Gill, Ridenour) after one or two years, as well as two JUCOs (Binney and White) who lasted one year each. Mason was here three years and Soko and McKoy two each (Ovie only played one).

This will be Ferry's fourth losing season in five years. The pinnacle of his success was a 17-17 campaign.

All the talk in the world about facilities & money means far less to me than the fact the our $3 million man, our next level coach, our "building the program brick by brick" guy, isn't cutting it.

 

I get your point, but I would leave Gill out of the discussion, since he played three full years and graduated from Duquesne.  He would have been welcomed back for his final year, true, but the "senior" transfer rule is another discussion altogether and doesn't necessarily reflect negatively on the program.  He had a chance to play at a Big Ten school with a chance to play on TV every game, in front of large crowds and get to the NCAA Tourney.  So the fact that he improved at Duquesne allowed him to play one year at a  school that didn't recruit him out of High School because they didn't think he could contribute.

levon1975 wrote:

ElDuque wrote:

Darius Lewis will become the third player that Ferry recruited in five years to play here four years and graduate. Colter and Jones are the other two. We've had more than TWICE as many "4-year" players LEAVE during that time (Winters, Watkins, Powell, Jackson, Steele, Gill, Ridenour) after one or two years, as well as two JUCOs (Binney and White) who lasted one year each. Mason was here three years and Soko and McKoy two each (Ovie only played one).

This will be Ferry's fourth losing season in five years. The pinnacle of his success was a 17-17 campaign.

All the talk in the world about facilities & money means far less to me than the fact the our $3 million man, our next level coach, our "building the program brick by brick" guy, isn't cutting it.

 

I get your point, but I would leave Gill out of the discussion, since he played three full years and graduated from Duquesne.  He would have been welcomed back for his final year, true, but the "senior" transfer rule is another discussion altogether and doesn't necessarily reflect negatively on the program.  He had a chance to play at a Big Ten school with a chance to play on TV every game, in front of large crowds and get to the NCAA Tourney.  So the fact that he improved at Duquesne allowed him to play one year at a  school that didn't recruit him out of High School because they didn't think he could contribute.

I stand corrected. Still would have liked to get four years out of him.