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The conference leaders want six eastern and six western — really, midwestern — schools. The eastern division of the league will consist of Georgetown, St. John’s, Seton Hall, Villanova, Providence and either Richmond (also a non-Catholic school) or Siena — a late entry but a potentially appealing one because it’s a Catholic school that (more importantly) plays in a 15,500-seat arena in Albany, N.Y. Last edited by CLK (2/17/2013 9:27 pm) Siena ? ! ?! ? ! ? Bad bad news No, that's good news. Anything that leaves the A10 more intact is good news. Keeping VCU is paramount. The league needs a flagship. UMass is also being mentioned for the Big East football league. Also another article stated the C7 might go to 14 teams. While that is possible, I can't see it happening. Last edited by CLK (2/18/2013 6:58 am) UMass is also being mentioned for the Big East football league. Also another article stated the C7 might go to 14 teams. While that is possible, I can't see it happening. I would argue that missing the NCAA tournament both in 2009 and 2011 when we were in great position to make the field hurt our chances more than what is happening this year. We'd probably be ahead of Richmond. In the end, I think presidents of the C7 (and more likely than not the Fox executives) are smart enough to look past one season. If they feel like a program can generate money for the league long term, then they will take that team regardless of what is happening this year. After all Siena is worse off than we are competitively right now. Dayton would also be out of the conversation if this year mattered much. UMass is also being mentioned for the Big East football league. Also another article stated the C7 might go to 14 teams. While that is possible, I can't see it happening. I would argue that missing the NCAA tournament both in 2009 and 2011 when we were in great position to make the field hurt our chances more than what is happening this year. We'd probably be ahead of Richmond. In the end, I think presidents of the C7 (and more likely than not the Fox executives) are smart enough to look past one season. If they feel like a program can generate money for the league long term, then they will take that team regardless of what is happening this year. After all Siena is worse off than we are competitively right now. Dayton would also be out of the conversation if this year mattered much. Last edited by CLK (2/18/2013 12:27 pm) UMass is also being mentioned for the Big East football league. Also another article stated the C7 might go to 14 teams. While that is possible, I can't see it happening. I would argue that missing the NCAA tournament both in 2009 and 2011 when we were in great position to make the field hurt our chances more than what is happening this year. We'd probably be ahead of Richmond. In the end, I think presidents of the C7 (and more likely than not the Fox executives) are smart enough to look past one season. If they feel like a program can generate money for the league long term, then they will take that team regardless of what is happening this year. After all Siena is worse off than we are competitively right now. Dayton would also be out of the conversation if this year mattered much. Your point about transfers is no less "would of" "could of" than mine. If the Dukes make either tournament, onlookers would be a lot more tolerant to a down year. I'm also pretty sure this team would be struggling right now with or without TJ. Better yes, but I'm not sure it's a team I'd put solidly in the middle of the A-10. PG hasn't exactly been the problem. Last edited by steve19981 (2/18/2013 1:26 pm) Steve, with all due respect, I really don't care. Unless Dr. D can pull a highly unlikely rabbit out of his butt to sell the potential of DU, we are not going to be included in the new league. The speculation would of could of makes no difference. Last edited by CLK (2/18/2013 3:45 pm) As to being invited to join the new league, Duquesne brings nothing to the table. Not being in the NCAA since 1977 and historically poor home attendance proves that we would not advance the league financially. Compare us to Dayton. They fill their home arena and get to the post season somewhat regularly. The difference is huge. Our program's problems are the result of decades of incompetence. As to being invited to join the new league, Duquesne brings nothing to the table. Not being in the NCAA since 1977 and historically poor home attendance proves that we would not advance the league financially. Compare us to Dayton. They fill their home arena and get to the post season somewhat regularly. The difference is huge. Our program's problems are the result of decades of incompetence. I don't think the new C12 is going to be that great, and I don't think the revamped A-10 will be that bad. Duquesne has to improve though. I don't think the new C12 is going to be that great, and I don't think the revamped A-10 will be that bad. Duquesne has to improve though. I would argue that missing the NCAA tournament both in 2009 and 2011 when we were in great position to make the field hurt our chances more than what is happening this year. We'd probably be ahead of Richmond. In the end, I think presidents of the C7 (and more likely than not the Fox executives) are smart enough to look past one season. If they feel like a program can generate money for the league long term, then they will take that team regardless of what is happening this year. After all Siena is worse off than we are competitively right now. Dayton would also be out of the conversation if this year mattered much. Your point about transfers is no less "would of" "could of" than mine. If the Dukes make either tournament, onlookers would be a lot more tolerant to a down year. I'm also pretty sure this team would be struggling right now with or without TJ. Better yes, but I'm not sure it's a team I'd put solidly in the middle of the A-10. PG hasn't exactly been the problem. Man, you make digs at Ron at every chance. DU basketball just sucked for 20 years and Ron came along and made it in the middle respectable, but in your twisted mind he should have won the national championship? Ferry's finding out that winning in the A-10 a little hard, and I'm betting, his style of play (or lack off) an't gonna doo it. Ron recruited on less history of winning then Ferry has, and Ferry (like you) doesn't understand what it takes to win at this level. Man, you make digs at Ron at every chance. DU basketball just sucked for 20 years and Ron came along and made it in the middle respectable, but in your twisted mind he should have won the national championship? Ferry's finding out that winning in the A-10 a little hard, and I'm betting, his style of play (or lack off) an't gonna doo it. Ron recruited on less history of winning then Ferry has, and Ferry (like you) doesn't understand what it takes to win at this level. You're reading way too much into my comment. This isn't a failing of Ron I'm pointing towards and has nothing to do with him. Rather missed opportunities that would greatly impact our resume to this league. I assign no blame to anyone in particular in this thread. Your point about transfers is no less "would of" "could of" than mine. If the Dukes make either tournament, onlookers would be a lot more tolerant to a down year. I'm also pretty sure this team would be struggling right now with or without TJ. Better yes, but I'm not sure it's a team I'd put solidly in the middle of the A-10. PG hasn't exactly been the problem. Man, you make digs at Ron at every chance. DU basketball just sucked for 20 years and Ron came along and made it in the middle respectable, but in your twisted mind he should have won the national championship? Ferry's finding out that winning in the A-10 a little hard, and I'm betting, his style of play (or lack off) an't gonna doo it. Ron recruited on less history of winning then Ferry has, and Ferry (like you) doesn't understand what it takes to win at this level. Again wins & losses mean nothing right now, In the next 2 years we will know if coach Ferry is worth the 4.2 mil 7 year deal. I love Duquesne so I wish him the best. Since GA was hired my expectations was ofcourse Duquesne part of the new Catholic conference. Everybody saw it! Maybe GA fired RE for that purpose but I think it was premature. Duquesne cant afford a 40% loss of loyal supporters. Nest year what another 20% REDUCTION. I hope that Dr. D & GA can pull a rabbit out of their A##.If not its over please dont give me the BS that the A-10 remains strong. Bottom lime Dr. D brought Duquesne to a level 1 undergraduate school. Consol & Pitt market no brainer please no excuses past 30 years Dr. Murray Father Hogan Colleary past coaches. Catholic 7 or bust!!!!!
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Hey we have a nice arena
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Siena > Duquesne??? Give me a break!
What disrespect!
TIme for Duquesne to join Robert Morris in the NEC and at least make it to the Big Dance as a 15th or 16th seed every few years.
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It is very sad because if DU did not have the defections (can you say McConnell) and were in the mioddle of the pack this yearI think we might be in consideration by the C7 given our Catholic similarity, quality of education, market and the Consol. It may be too little too late, buyt if there is any truth to the Siena consideration I sure hope our joke of an AD nd Dr. D are still trying to sell the potential of DU . •
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It is very sad because if DU did not have the defections (can you say McConnell) and were in the mioddle of the pack this yearI think we might be in consideration by the C7 given our Catholic similarity, quality of education, market and the Consol. It may be too little too late, buyt if there is any truth to the Siena consideration I sure hope our joke of an AD nd Dr. D are still trying to sell the potential of DU .
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steve19981 wrote:CLK wrote:
It is very sad because if DU did not have the defections (can you say McConnell) and were in the mioddle of the pack this yearI think we might be in consideration by the C7 given our Catholic similarity, quality of education, market and the Consol. It may be too little too late, buyt if there is any truth to the Siena consideration I sure hope our joke of an AD nd Dr. D are still trying to sell the potential of DU .
I don't want to argue. Who knows and who cares at this point, we are not getting invited. There are a lot of "would of" "could of" in a team that sucked for 40 years. We didn't make the NCAA in 2009 but we somewhat preceived as a program on the rise under Ron. The fact that we are now again preceived a garbage this year by most observers does not help. If we were in the middle of the pack we might gain support that the Dukes turned the corner. Again who knows. •
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CLK wrote:steve19981 wrote:CLK wrote:
It is very sad because if DU did not have the defections (can you say McConnell) and were in the mioddle of the pack this yearI think we might be in consideration by the C7 given our Catholic similarity, quality of education, market and the Consol. It may be too little too late, buyt if there is any truth to the Siena consideration I sure hope our joke of an AD nd Dr. D are still trying to sell the potential of DU .
I don't want to argue. Who knows and who cares at this point, we are not getting invited. There are a lot of "would of" "could of" in a team that sucked for 40 years. We didn't make the NCAA in 2009 but we somewhat preceived as a program on the rise under Ron. The fact that we are now again preceived a garbage this year by most observers does not help. If we were in the middle of the pack we might gain support that the Dukes turned the corner. Again who knows.
And I agree with the who knows part. I think everything we're hearing is speculation. Ultimately, I think the league will take whoever Fox tells them to take. If they want Pittsburgh and think they can make money here, then we'll be in. If they think they can make their money in Albany, Dayton or Richmond. They'll be in. My point is that short run competition is probably not all that much of a factor. Money likely will motivate all the decisions.
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Although it's hard to tell what the A10 will look like, it might actually be a good fit for us.
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Although it's hard to tell what the A10 will look like, it might actually be a good fit for us.
Yes Pressure, the new A-10 will probably be a good fit for us depending on which top teams remain. If VCU remains and the A-10 adds a few of the better mid-majors like George Mason, etc., maybe it won't be so bad.
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Bilgy, every time I start to think you are not a plant from the admin (I used to think you were BC himself) you turn around and surprise me with total idiocy like this.
Yeah, the A-10 is going to be better when some of its perennial tournament teams, join a bunch of other basketball happy schools who have made the tourney several times in the last three decades and consistently play at a top level.
You are delusional, hate to say.
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steve19981 wrote:CLK wrote:steve19981 wrote:
I don't want to argue. Who knows and who cares at this point, we are not getting invited. There are a lot of "would of" "could of" in a team that sucked for 40 years. We didn't make the NCAA in 2009 but we somewhat preceived as a program on the rise under Ron. The fact that we are now again preceived a garbage this year by most observers does not help. If we were in the middle of the pack we might gain support that the Dukes turned the corner. Again who knows.
And I agree with the who knows part. I think everything we're hearing is speculation. Ultimately, I think the league will take whoever Fox tells them to take. If they want Pittsburgh and think they can make money here, then we'll be in. If they think they can make their money in Albany, Dayton or Richmond. They'll be in. My point is that short run competition is probably not all that much of a factor. Money likely will motivate all the decisions.
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As for what it takes to win at this level, I think it takes money first and foremost. It also takes experience, talent and coaching. I don't think one can conclude after one miserable season that Ferry doesn't have an effective plan.
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NapaDuke wrote:steve19981 wrote:CLK wrote:
I don't want to argue. Who knows and who cares at this point, we are not getting invited. There are a lot of "would of" "could of" in a team that sucked for 40 years. We didn't make the NCAA in 2009 but we somewhat preceived as a program on the rise under Ron. The fact that we are now again preceived a garbage this year by most observers does not help. If we were in the middle of the pack we might gain support that the Dukes turned the corner. Again who knows.
And I agree with the who knows part. I think everything we're hearing is speculation. Ultimately, I think the league will take whoever Fox tells them to take. If they want Pittsburgh and think they can make money here, then we'll be in. If they think they can make their money in Albany, Dayton or Richmond. They'll be in. My point is that short run competition is probably not all that much of a factor. Money likely will motivate all the decisions.
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