Tejas_Duke wrote:

They are not going to fire him in the middle of the A 10 tournament that we are hosting.  It would be bad form and would take media coverage away from the tournament.  Monday or Tuesday at the latest.

Agreed. That would be like two parents announcing their divorce in the middle of one of their children's birthday parties to all the neighbors in attendance. If it doesn't happen by Tuesday I think there will be a real reason for concern.

As far as Ron E., I am tired of reading on this board how good he was. ..... his turnover of assistants was greater than his turnover of players, which was at an unacceptable rate. He did a better job than the men before and after him, but what is that really saying.

My friend, you are one brave dude posting.  And refreshing - telling like it is.

Wildwood13 wrote:

This is getting scary. Jim Ferry should have been fired by now. The administration should have known since mid year that this clown can not coach. What could possibly be holding them up ? They have to move swiftly and fast to get the right coach in here, so he can keep some of the talent here and start selling the school to any kid that would like to come here.

As far as Ron E., I am tired of reading on this board how good he was. The type of kid he recruited did not represent the university well, his turnover of assistants was greater than his turnover of players, which was at an unacceptable rate. He did a better job than the men before and after him, but what is that really saying.

We need a coach that knows how to recruit the student athlete that has a good academic background, with a high basketball IQ, that is flying under the radar, like the kids Bucknell and Princeton get. This coach then has to be very knowledgable in his game preparation and executing his game plan with the ability to adjust when needed. Quit going after the coaches that want to roll out the ball and play fast pace basketball. That has not worked for any of these coaches since John Carroll coached and when I gave up my season tickets. We are never going to get the top athletes, we may get lucky once in a while. But if the other teams have better players than you, you do not give them more possessions but playing uptempo ball, you play controlled and team basketball in order to limit their possessions. Good luck in your search Mr Harper as I anxiously await Mr Ferry and your naming of the new coach.

Bucknell and Princeton kids won't get it done in the A10. I don't recall us having a bunch of criminals on the team under Ron, or Ferry for that matter.

Phildog wrote:

At this point I will suspect any coach who would be so desperate to come to Duquesne, same goes with the recruits.


If you want to be coaching or playing in the A-10, this program is the last stop.

You don't think Mike, and Lewis are any good?
 

duq81 wrote:

Phildog wrote:

At this point I will suspect any coach who would be so desperate to come to Duquesne, same goes with the recruits.


If you want to be coaching or playing in the A-10, this program is the last stop.

You don't think Mike, and Lewis are any good?
 

Not to mention the two three-star recruits that are signed with us. I don't necessarily think that Duquesne is a horrible job anymore. It's in a good location, good academics, good conference, the pay is competitive, and the new administration seems more interested in being successful. There's so many urban catholic schools that are successful. There's no reason Duquesne can't join them. It just takes the right coach to get it moving in the right direction.

Ferry's salary really isn't enough to get the job done for the next guy. At last count 11 of 14 league coaches are over $700k. Even Schmidt at SBU is at $750k. 

Probably going to take $850k plus, the big renovation, & a rock solid 6 year commitment on the part of the university to get a viable candidate to take the leap

I was told that there won't be any announcement until the fall at the earliest.  We will see if my source was right.

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duq81 wrote:

Anyone think Harper is holding off on the announcement so Ferry can try to land a new job? Remember Ron asked for that, and GA refused. Would save Duquesne some money if Ferry could somehow land a new job.

if ferry lands a new job after the fact anyway, doesn't that mean duquesne would no longer have to pay him?

duq81 wrote:

Wildwood13 wrote:

This is getting scary. Jim Ferry should have been fired by now. The administration should have known since mid year that this clown can not coach. What could possibly be holding them up ? They have to move swiftly and fast to get the right coach in here, so he can keep some of the talent here and start selling the school to any kid that would like to come here.

As far as Ron E., I am tired of reading on this board how good he was. The type of kid he recruited did not represent the university well, his turnover of assistants was greater than his turnover of players, which was at an unacceptable rate. He did a better job than the men before and after him, but what is that really saying.

We need a coach that knows how to recruit the student athlete that has a good academic background, with a high basketball IQ, that is flying under the radar, like the kids Bucknell and Princeton get. This coach then has to be very knowledgable in his game preparation and executing his game plan with the ability to adjust when needed. Quit going after the coaches that want to roll out the ball and play fast pace basketball. That has not worked for any of these coaches since John Carroll coached and when I gave up my season tickets. We are never going to get the top athletes, we may get lucky once in a while. But if the other teams have better players than you, you do not give them more possessions but playing uptempo ball, you play controlled and team basketball in order to limit their possessions. Good luck in your search Mr Harper as I anxiously await Mr Ferry and your naming of the new coach.

Bucknell and Princeton kids won't get it done in the A10. I don't recall us having a bunch of criminals on the team under Ron, or Ferry for that matter.

 Your right lets keep on recruiting these type of players because we have done so well with them the past forty years. I am pretty sure some of the Princeton teams over the years could compete in the A 10 as well as a Bucknell team every five years or so. Which us Duquesne fans would die for. I didn't state the players were criminals but since you mentioned it. Ron E had Studard Baldonado in trouble and a few others that never made the court. Ferry, had Steele and Sanders get in a bit of trouble for that phone thing, as well as Jones and Mason had a run in with the law on the south side.

Wildwood13 wrote:

duq81 wrote:

Wildwood13 wrote:

This is getting scary. Jim Ferry should have been fired by now. The administration should have known since mid year that this clown can not coach. What could possibly be holding them up ? They have to move swiftly and fast to get the right coach in here, so he can keep some of the talent here and start selling the school to any kid that would like to come here.

As far as Ron E., I am tired of reading on this board how good he was. The type of kid he recruited did not represent the university well, his turnover of assistants was greater than his turnover of players, which was at an unacceptable rate. He did a better job than the men before and after him, but what is that really saying.

We need a coach that knows how to recruit the student athlete that has a good academic background, with a high basketball IQ, that is flying under the radar, like the kids Bucknell and Princeton get. This coach then has to be very knowledgable in his game preparation and executing his game plan with the ability to adjust when needed. Quit going after the coaches that want to roll out the ball and play fast pace basketball. That has not worked for any of these coaches since John Carroll coached and when I gave up my season tickets. We are never going to get the top athletes, we may get lucky once in a while. But if the other teams have better players than you, you do not give them more possessions but playing uptempo ball, you play controlled and team basketball in order to limit their possessions. Good luck in your search Mr Harper as I anxiously await Mr Ferry and your naming of the new coach.

Bucknell and Princeton kids won't get it done in the A10. I don't recall us having a bunch of criminals on the team under Ron, or Ferry for that matter.

 Your right lets keep on recruiting these type of players because we have done so well with them the past forty years. I am pretty sure some of the Princeton teams over the years could compete in the A 10 as well as a Bucknell team every five years or so. Which us Duquesne fans would die for. I didn't state the players were criminals but since you mentioned it. Ron E had Studard Baldonado in trouble and a few others that never made the court. Ferry, had Steele and Sanders get in a bit of trouble for that phone thing, as well as Jones and Mason had a run in with the law on the south side.

Baldonado didn't come here in trouble. His trouble occurred after the on campus shooting.

Mason got caught with a fake ID and he and Jeremiah Jones made the mistake of running from police after a scuffle somewhere.

Part of the story is recruiting. Part of the story is coaching. Ron offered TJ when no one else gave him a sniff. Ferry offered MLII when everyone else was courting his teammates. Mike James was an afterthought and Norm Nixon wasn't considered the best player on his team. So sometimes luck and timing play a role. Aaron Jackson blossomed in Everhart's system after it seemed Ron didn't want him. Kojo Mensah came here because he wanted to play for Ron and never developed. I know the shooting again had something to do with it, but by the time he could play AJax had passed him. There are coaches who take kids who are OK, let's say the type of two star players we normally get, but teach them how to play offense and defense and prepare them for game situations so they make good decisions. Coaches who teach fundamentals. Etc. That's why they win. Ron won with whoever was on his roster and with whatever assistants he had at his disposal. People forget that. Post-TJ, he might not have fielded a 20 win team, but based on his record I'd have guessed the Dukes would be competitive anyway and maybe back up to snuff a year later.

Ditto to CLK and ElDuque, all I know about Ron was that he won here when others before him and after him failed.

I don't know why the bottom fell out this year but it did.

I will wait to see if any changes occur, it is doubtful that things could get worse.