Also.........."While Butler,Xavier and, most likely, Creighton are expected to join the new Big East this fall, the Catholic 7 schools are also expected to add Dayton and St. Louis in 2014 for a 12-team league"-ESPN

wow the A-10 is going to be completely different here soon.

OK so after the dust settles that leaves the A10 with 10 teams. 

Virginia Commonwealth 10-3 22-6
La Salle 9-4 19-7
Massachusetts 7-6 17-9
Richmond 7-6 17-11
George Washington 6-7 12-14
St. Bonaventure 6-7 13-13
Saint Joseph's 6-7 15-11
Rhode Island 3-10 8-18
Fordham 2-11 6-22
Duquesne 1-12 8-19

Long term does the A10 hold together?  Can it be a multiple bid league again?  What happens to the A10 TV contract?  Who gets added to the League?

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duqkurt:  your wish will be granted effective 4-1-2013.  the same sources who told about the formation of a catholic conference last year at this time (a post for which i was excoriated) tell me GA will be the new AD at X.  his salary jumps to 915K, about a 500k raise. incidentally, the cost to join the new conference has never been pin-pointed.  i am told there is a $5M entry cost that may or may not be worth it depending on how much quick t.v. money each newly joining team gets.  so if i am X and Butler, i sure as heck wanna make sure i r-coup some of my lay-out a.s.a.p.  if i  am the A-10 commissioner, i solidfy what revenues will be coming in from nbc. i solidify my leftover ten team base or make it better if i can.  i prefer to have part of something rather than all of nothing. 

None of our schools are going to the CAA. If it works out the way CLK posted, I"d be ok with that league. We already knew that Temple, X and Butler were gone. Butler has been here one year. It's not like they were a 20 year member. If UMass leaves, add Mason, Siena, and one of the Massachusetts schools for a 12 team league.  VCU is the key.

duqkurt wrote:

For what it is worth, I remember Grammudder saying on scout this was in the works a year ago.  And people saying it would never happen.   Something about political correctness. 

VCU could still be in play to go with C7.  Or the All sports Big East could extend them an invitation to join for bb. 

My prediction remains. We will be in the Horizon League or the MAAC in three to four years. 

the Horizon, wouldn't that just be the greatest irony, the old MCC, which pretty much destroyed what John Carroll had built through his recruiting and put us on this 20 year skid.

Etiher of those two garbage leagues and I am washing my hands of this university and its pathetic basketball program.
 

CLK asked, "Long term does the A10 hold together?"  

If you go back and look at my posts on topics similar, I have always maintained the position that it would not.   No where in my posts did I disparage the Horizon League or the MAAC.  

During our tenure in the A10, we did nothing to prove that we could compete consistently with the top programs in the conference.  Perhaps the Horizon or MAAC is the level for us where we could be competitive. I would like them to be successful.  

 

president wrote:

Tejas_Duke wrote:

duqkurt wrote:

For what it is worth, I remember Grammudder saying on scout this was in the works a year ago.  And people saying it would never happen.   Something about political correctness. 

VCU could still be in play to go with C7.  Or the All sports Big East could extend them an invitation to join for bb. 

My prediction remains. We will be in the Horizon League or the MAAC in three to four years. 

the Horizon, wouldn't that just be the greatest irony, the old MCC, which pretty much destroyed what John Carroll had built through his recruiting and put us on this 20 year skid.

Etiher of those two garbage leagues and I am washing my hands of this university and its pathetic basketball program.
 

 I do hope that you follow through with your threat. Then I won't have to read your venomous tirades anymore.

If only we could be so lucky. These guys actually want Ferry to fail. It's pitiful.

Last edited by duq81 (3/01/2013 12:06 pm)

I don't believe the C7 will be on ESPN. Fox owns the Speed Channel which they are turning into a national Fox Sports Channel.  The C7 will be programming for that network.  I think they between this new channel and the regional Fox Sports Channel and over the air Fox, that is where you will see the C7.  There is still room for the A10 on ESPN, NBC Sports Channel and the CBS Sports Channel.  In fact maybe a little more room.  

The Pitt WBB job almost certainly will open up at the end of this season, so If Suzy wants to jump, she will not have to go far.

CLK wrote:

OK so after the dust settles that leaves the A10 with 10 teams. 

Virginia Commonwealth 10-3 22-6
La Salle 9-4 19-7
Massachusetts 7-6 17-9
Richmond 7-6 17-11
George Washington 6-7 12-14
St. Bonaventure 6-7 13-13
Saint Joseph's 6-7 15-11
Rhode Island 3-10 8-18
Fordham 2-11 6-22
Duquesne 1-12 8-19

Long term does the A10 hold together?  Can it be a multiple bid league again?  What happens to the A10 TV contract?  Who gets added to the League?

Recruiting just got exponentially tougher in the A-10. So sad that this is probably the only "major" conference that does not have one single rivalry. What a group of sad-sack schools.
 

CLK wrote:

I saw this post by a Richmond fan on the A10 Board and I guess it pretty much sums up how I feel.  I wish things were different, but the years of incompetence has caught up with DU.

"If we stay with the A10 I'm fine with it. Lots of quality traditional programs. Opportunity for many to rise again. No reason we shouldn't be the next league just behind the Big East. As I mentioned elsewhere it's not the first contract, it will be the second and the third big east contract that is relevant and while they'll have a big initial advantage things change. Circle the wagons and maybe we'll meet up again."

Agree 100%. Certain Xavier fans have pissed me off over the years, constantly complaining about Duquesne, Bona, LaSalle, and Fordham bringing nothing to the league, and riding on the coatails of X and Temple. In reality, they are right. Instead of crying about the strong schools that are leaving, it's time for us to step up, and start becoming bellewethers of this league. LaSalle has stepped up this year. They need to maintain it, while Duquesne and URI need to get it done with their new coaches. We have the power to fix what ails this league. It's time to stop riding the coatails of other programs, and become one of the reasons why this is a respected league!

Jeralta wrote:

It was me and i am still shocked. I just could not imagine any group forming a "Jewish league" or "Mormon league" or the now-formed Catholic league. Btw the Supreme Court may soon hear a case vs. the NCAA that might bust it up.

 
Butler is not a catholic school.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/georgetown-basketball-vs-rutgers-john-thompson-iii-ready-for-new-conference-hoyas-prepare-for-rutgers/2013/03/01/daaf0d50-82b6-11e2-8074-b26a871b165a_story.html

John Thompson III Ready for New Conference (Washington Post - March 2, 2013)

Georgetown Coach John Thompson III voiced no hesitation Friday about plans to launch the new basketball-driven conference next season rather than wait until 2014-15, as many had anticipated.

"I’ve said from the beginning, 'The sooner, the better'. I think that’s best for every and all parties in our situation and the other conference."

But Thompson declined comment on reports that Butler and Xavier would join the league, formed by the seven current Big East members that don’t play big-time football. "I’ll wait until we see who they are," Thompson said, "then I’ll comment on who’s with us or not."

Details of the new conference — including its name and incoming members — are expected to be unveiled Tuesday in New York during a news conference held by Fox Sports, which is launching a 24/7 cable network, Fox Sports 1, to compete with ESPN.

But he made clear that he prefers the "Basketball Seven" as an interim name to the broadly used "Catholic Seven." Although all seven founding teams are Catholic (DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Providence, St. John’s, Seton Hall and Villanova), as is Xavier, religious affiliation won’t define the conference, which will likely expand to 12 schools by the 2014-15 season.
 

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