ElDuque wrote:

phil95 wrote:

RE is/was a confirmed rebuild specialist & a fine man. He didn't suck at all. He just wasn't good enough.

-18 years as a head coach & zero NCAA appearances. 12 of those years were in crap conferences & his career conference winning percentage is below .500.  
-3-20 win seasons out of 18
-At DU he did worse than stall; he peaked & then regressed.
-His final 3 teams imploded after February 1st. (Even the one with Saunders & Clarke as seniors)
-On the day he was fired there was no hope to be derived from the existing roster or his recruiting class. 
-There is not one poster on this board that would be happy if today the school hired a guy with this resume.

The disaster that was Ferry does not make the above facts irrelevant. There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that Ron could/can make any program a perennial 20 game winner with regular trips to the NIT & occasional trips to the Big Dance. Six years ws long enough to prove that 
 

I think you miss two things:

1. Ron won with the talent that he had. Yes, the roster took a hit with the departure of TJ, but we as a group of board posters keep making assumptions about recruits that can't be verified. What if Ron brought in just enough talent to keep the ship steady that year, and put together a strong class the following year? That is at least as possible as what you suggest, whether or not you agree. But even if that weren't the case, then if Ron did bomb that year and prospects weren't looking good, then most or all of the fan base would have agreed with the idea of letting him go. What's the difference?

You hit the nail on the head here. I was never in the "Ron coach for life" camp. You have to win, and you have to keep winning to stay employed. That said, Ron had done enough to earn a couple more seasons. Had those seasons been poor, I'd have been all for kicking him to the curb, and my guess is that they could have done so without all of the controversy that followed his actual firing.
 

Remember how fun it was with the steals and break aways?  So much fun.  I don't care if we are ranked I don't want to watch a "Virginia type" team.  So boring

phil95 wrote:

Napa:

Not sure why you feel the need to wildly misrepresent my post. Maybe give it a re-read & see what I think it will take to make the program relevant.

 I'm not misrepresenting anything. Your  part of the problem.  Web was bad, but your attacks on RE are very counter productive at this point.  Don't think potential coaches see this board?  . And why won't they. You are trashing the only winning coach (and you alone) that was successful here in 40 years. So potential coaches see that there  is some delusional fraction on this board that thinks, that a potential candidate come in here to rebuild and that  winning at all isn't enough for some on this board and  are still trashing the last winning  coach from 5 years ago that was remotely successful? And somehow, you think we  are going to get a real coach in here?  Keep trashing RE, it's  really  helping at this moment,  right?  

Last edited by NapaDuke (3/25/2017 1:32 am)

CLK wrote:

Initially I felt that it would prove to be too much of a risk to hire a guy with a tarnished reputation like Mike Rice. However, this joke of coaching search (please note I am not blaming Harper) has shown that DU's reputation is far more tarnished than that of Mike Rice.  The DU coaching job has become toxic and is a national joke.  It seems that DU and Rice are both in need of redemption.  DU needs a good coach that knows the game and how to win, and is willing to work his butt off because he wants to be here.  Mike needs an opportunity to prove that he is a changed man and prove he can be successful at the D1 level again.  Personally I believe this coaching search needs to be concluded quickly.  Unless Harper has someone better under contract, I say hire Mike Rice.

DU would risk very little getting Mike Rice in here, really, nothing to lose. There is no down-side, and there is very little chance that Mike Rice wouldn't improve this team if he comes in here.     

 

So many things have gone wrong at Duquesne for so long, if this was a school named XYZ  U. , would any of us pay attention or care.

By non attention the men's basketball program is very pathetic, and potential hires are running away from Duquesne like a bear with it's A$$ on fire, and for prudent reason.


Not many knowingly throw their career away.

For years I have been saying Duquesne is a coaches graveyard, and so far no one has been so hard up to enter in this time.