I remember being told by the player that he was offered  a half scholarship by Red Manning back around 1960.. Subsequently turned it down for a full scholarship to Clemson.

If there is any way to get him here, I hope they can make it happen. You just never know about prospects. Might have had a late start playing BB. Maybe why he went prep. Who knows?. A couple years down the line could remind us if I. Mike.  Worth a chance especially for a big.

Duques102 wrote:

ElDuque wrote:

Again, just to clarify, you get 13 scholarship players. Period. The scholarships can't be split. The details do have to matter because the last thing we need is for some inane NCAA rule/guideline to be violated and for that to come back and haunt us. We've suffered enough, darn it.

This means one of three things:
1. One current or committed scholarship will not be on campus in the fall, for whatever reason. By committed, I'm referring to the four transfers from other D1 programs. Since another big would be added, I'd wonder whether Jordan Robinson's injury would affect the future of his playing career, or whether he's graduating and moving somewhere where he could play right away. Losing Smith or Littleson under the circumstances would devastate the backcourt. This would still give us only nine active scholarship players next year.
2. A two-sport athlete could play, for example, football and basketball and come here on a gridiron scholarship like Kellon Taylor, but wouldn't be available to the team when the other sport is in session. I haven't heard anything about any of our recruits falling into that category. We've had players who have competed in both basketball and track, BTW.
3. As 102 said above, they could come here as a walk-on and pay their own way until a scholarship opens. If your family has the bucks, if this is really where you want to come, and if your ego can handle it, why not? Jason Duty played more than some scholarship players before Coach Everhart rewarded him with a scholarship.

I have no issues with any kid that Coach Dambrot is recruiting, regardless of their HS or prep stats. Mike Lewis II is the perfect example of a kid who played on a talented team who had less than stellar stats but who blossomed into a star at this level. These guys are being scouted by a professional staff that can evaluate their strengths and weaknesses, and where they'd fit into the program.
 

 

I agree the details matter from the standpoint that you don't want to commit a violation, but do you really think Dambrot and his staff would intentionally do something illegal? No way, he has almost two decades of experience at this level, so he knows the rules and how to work within them.

Not saying your wrong but how do you know scholarships cannot be split? I can tell you for a fact they can be in other d1 sports. For example, division 1 soccer programs get 10 full scholarships per team. There are generally 25-28 players on a team. When I was recruited to play soccer at Duquesne I was offered to have 1/3 of my tuition covered by athletic money, and also received some academic scholarships. In that model you get more athletic money year to year based on how much you contribute to the team. Your saying you can't do that for d1 hoops? I just find that surprising that they would have different rules for different sports.

Here is the article washpa:

http://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2017/04/27/thursday-recruiting-notebook-11/amp/

No, I don't think Coach Dambrot would knowingly violate any rules, and I think Duquesne University has compliance folks in place to support that.

As CLK said in a post above, basketball is a headcount sport. 13 scholarships, 13 scholarship players for MBB. Think about it: If schools were allowed to divide scholarships, who do you think would win? That's right: Kentucky, UNC, Duke, etc. The way a handful of college FB schools dominated the sport by having 100+ scholarship players.

Duques102 wrote:

Dukes2012 wrote:

CLK wrote:

NCAA I basketball is a headcount sport, so the athletic scholarship limits of 13 for men and 15 for women are the limit;  This means the max number of any type of athletic scholarship is limited to 13.  You can have walk on that receive academic awards or scholarships that are not based on athletics.

On Washington, is it possible he would be a walk on?  

There is so little available on Washington. I am not sure if he has any other scholarship offers. Thus, it is conceivable that he is being looked at as a preferred walk on at this point.

 
That could be it. Was this not the kid that was being recruited by Georgetown??? I thought there was excitement on the board about him when his name first came up. I haven't looked into him much as I thought the roster was already composed myself.

There was an old tweet that Washington visited Georgetown.  It did not say it was an official visit, nor was there any indication there was an offer.  He also supposedly visited Florida State.  What I have found on this kid is that he is a 6'8" 220 lb. forward from Puerto Rico and played on their under 17 national team.  He attended St. Benedict's in NJ for two years (could be the source of the clearinghouse question).  Very little on his basketball career there.  After SB he went to South Kent prep. 

There is very little on which to form an opinion on this kid.  This is pure speculation on my part, but if he was anything more than a project there would be more on him.  This is why I asked if he was a walk on.  If I had another scholarship available, and I had a pick, I would rather have Haruna as the last scholarship or hold it to see what summer holds in the way of late gems.  He is #11 below.

PS:  As a side note, Ty Dalton who went on to play for Akron, was Washingtonm teammate in the 2015-2016 season and that is probably how the staff is familar with Washington.

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Good to hear that JRob might be around this season. Hopefully fully able to perform.

ElDuque wrote:

VBC wrote:

I spoke with someone in the athletics department last week and during our general discussion on the state of the program this person mentioned that Jordan Robinson is very excited about the new coaching staff and the opportunity that he has to finish his career under Keith Dambrot.

How's the ACL?

When I was at that adidas gear yard sale, i saw him and Eric James. They said they were really excited about Dambrot and Robinson seemed to be walking totally normal. No brace or anything, he was walking a beautiful dog, wonder if it was his. People come back in less than a year from full torn acl injuries. If it was a partial tear it likely wouldn't even require surgery. Just rest and stabilization.

currentstudent wrote:

Yeah he's got a dog. A football player has a little pug and walks all over campus with it.

....the girl's love it. 

 
Haha we did the same thing when I was in school, my roommates and I got a really cute black lab and used to parade her up and down A walk, it was effective.

Duques102 wrote:

ElDuque wrote:

Again, just to clarify, you get 13 scholarship players. Period. The scholarships can't be split. The details do have to matter because the last thing we need is for some inane NCAA rule/guideline to be violated and for that to come back and haunt us. We've suffered enough, darn it.

This means one of three things:
1. One current or committed scholarship will not be on campus in the fall, for whatever reason. By committed, I'm referring to the four transfers from other D1 programs. Since another big would be added, I'd wonder whether Jordan Robinson's injury would affect the future of his playing career, or whether he's graduating and moving somewhere where he could play right away. Losing Smith or Littleson under the circumstances would devastate the backcourt. This would still give us only nine active scholarship players next year.
2. A two-sport athlete could play, for example, football and basketball and come here on a gridiron scholarship like Kellon Taylor, but wouldn't be available to the team when the other sport is in session. I haven't heard anything about any of our recruits falling into that category. We've had players who have competed in both basketball and track, BTW.
3. As 102 said above, they could come here as a walk-on and pay their own way until a scholarship opens. If your family has the bucks, if this is really where you want to come, and if your ego can handle it, why not? Jason Duty played more than some scholarship players before Coach Everhart rewarded him with a scholarship.

I have no issues with any kid that Coach Dambrot is recruiting, regardless of their HS or prep stats. Mike Lewis II is the perfect example of a kid who played on a talented team who had less than stellar stats but who blossomed into a star at this level. These guys are being scouted by a professional staff that can evaluate their strengths and weaknesses, and where they'd fit into the program.
 

 

I agree the details matter from the standpoint that you don't want to commit a violation, but do you really think Dambrot and his staff would intentionally do something illegal? No way, he has almost two decades of experience at this level, so he knows the rules and how to work within them.

Not saying your wrong but how do you know scholarships cannot be split? I can tell you for a fact they can be in other d1 sports. For example, division 1 soccer programs get 10 full scholarships per team. There are generally 25-28 players on a team. When I was recruited to play soccer at Duquesne I was offered to have 1/3 of my tuition covered by athletic money, and also received some academic scholarships. In that model you get more athletic money year to year based on how much you contribute to the team. Your saying you can't do that for d1 hoops? I just find that surprising that they would have different rules for different sports.

Here is the article washpa:

http://pittsburghsportsnow.com/2017/04/27/thursday-recruiting-notebook-11/amp/

Thank you.

Did a little more digging on Washington. I found some old tweets where he had some big rebounding games including a 20 rebound game that led to this tweet by Bill Barton.

 Bill Barton‏ @SKSHoops  Feb 17 
Nick Washington w/ a huge impact on the game tonight - 20 rebounds and great help defense...a Dennis Rodman game...ultimate compliment!!!

Also saw where back in December he was drawing interest from Penn State, Georgia Tech and Florida State according to Adam Zagoria.  

Last edited by CLK (4/27/2017 8:50 pm)

Secretewatcher wrote:

Phildog wrote:

This whole Nick Washington thread sounds like a "B S Tip ", what reporter gives up their sources to a blog that anyone can read!

I am more interested in the real recruits and program press releases.

 
Here goes negative Nancy Phildog..🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

No personal attacks!