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Central Florida has only one loss - was to Central Michigan (a Sweet 16 team last year) Ladies obviously need to bring their A GAME tonight!! I agree, this is a big game tonight for the Dukes. I expect this team to bring some athleticism to the Palumbo tonight. A lot of good athletes to choose from in Florida. I see they beat Villanova quite handily, squeaked by Pitt at Pitt, and crushed Richmond at home. I Hope the shots are falling for the Dukes tonight. The Dukes really fought hard to get back into this game after going down 13-0. They actually took a 44-40 lead by really moving the ball around with long passes. UCF is a very athletic team at all positions and these are the teams that will beat the Dukes. The Dukes were not ready for the full court and half court trap at the beginning. That falls on the coaching staff. The team was hurt every time they tried to dribble. They adjusted to the speed of UCF, but hurried too many shots, especially in the first half due to the pressure. When the game was on the line, UCF rocked the Dukes slower defenders back on their heels and dribble drove to the hoop at will. The Dukes have to really start to play offense at a faster pace. I am not sure they can do better on defense as the slow footedness really hinders them. Fortunately, I think there is only one really athletic team in the A10 and that is Dayton. So, continue to work and let’s go Dukes! IF nothing else can take SOME positives in that Enika was in uniform last night (although she did not play) - while if 100% healthy - she still might have struggled defensively against a team like that -but perhaps with her rebounding UCF might have not gotten the second chance points/rebounds they did - perhaps Kadri Ann would have been a little fresher at the end - Realize there are only 200 minutes out there to give but think staff might be a little disappointed with the production from Sole when she IS in. I just watched Coach Burt’s post game. He was not pleased with shooting, rebounding and toughness. I will not criticize individual players as the effort is always there with this team. Shooting? The shooting numbers are pretty poor when the team loses. We do not pound the ball into the post enough. Against the UCF zone, the high post was open. In the Dukes run to the lead, the high post was used to pass to the corner, but never a post to post pass. Since teams shadow the two senior guards, Libby, Amanda, and Conner (upon her fuller return) must shoot more. Rebounding? The Dukes are simply too small. Only Kadri has legitimate size for her position. The only way to get bigger is to use Eniko (when she returns) as a three with two bigs. But that takes away Libby, Amanda and Conner. Toughness? Perhaps, it is the lack of quickness that hinders the toughness. The most physical player we have (who gives everything she has) is limited size and speed wise. Most of the guards give too much cushion when defending due to quickness issues. UCF easily went around our hedge on the high ball screens indicating the lack of quickness. Coach said in the interview that all of this is correctable. Agreed. Watching on ESPN Plus app, the league looks very down, so there is a good chance of an A10 record of at least 13 wins and a conference championship. Go Dukes! It was a clunker. They'll rebound from it. Some excellent posts from all of you. I was at the game, and their two guards were just too much for the Dukes to handle off the dribble. #2 was a very impressive player and when they inserted the other guard #3, the Dukes just couldn't contain both. The officiating was pretty liberal in terms of allowing one of their players, #11 to openly carry the ball throughout the game. They called her for it twice in the 4th quarter, but it was kind of late to start calling it. It was noticeable that any call against UCF was quickly answered by one of the refs, the overweight guy, with a call against the Dukes. The thinner guy was just clueless the whole game and was just a poor ref. The woman was very inconsistent as well. If you are correct about Dan's philosophy and strategy, I (respectfully), believe it's a dangerous one. Some of this discussion shows me that it's not Dan Burt's philosophy that's screwed up, but rather it's the way that sports fans & media think & the path to the NCAA tourney that are screwed up. We value a won-lost record to the point where a team that doesn't back down from scheduling any opponent & takes on some challenging games is "doing it wrong." It reminds me of back in the '90s when I followed boxing (back when I could stay up late for the big fights). Oscar de la Hoya took on all the tough fighters that others were avoiding, lost a couple, & was talked about like he was nothing. The boxing media glorified unbeaten fighters who only took on chumps. College basketball has gotten to that point, too. The local media is raving about the Pitt men's record, mostly achieved in home games against patsies. The Power 5 schools won't schedule a tough opponent during the nonconference schedule & won't accept road games. The nonconference schedule thru-out college basketball is mostly boring. I applaud Dan for taking on tough opponents & going anywhere to play anybody. (This year he didn't have much of a choice with the unavailability of the Palumbo, but still, that's how he's usually done it.) I don't want to pay to see my team blow out bad teams night after night. I want good games. For example, I remember way back when Wooden's UCLA Bruins came here for the Steel Bowl. Wouldn't it be cool to see teams of that caliber in person today? Last I checked, the teams RPI was still really high at like 34 or something. I find it more admirable that this team is challenging itself by playing extremely quality opponents, at home and the road. Some of this discussion shows me that it's not Dan Burt's philosophy that's screwed up, but rather it's the way that sports fans & media think & the path to the NCAA tourney that are screwed up. We value a won-lost record to the point where a team that doesn't back down from scheduling any opponent & takes on some challenging games is "doing it wrong." It reminds me of back in the '90s when I followed boxing (back when I could stay up late for the big fights). Oscar de la Hoya took on all the tough fighters that others were avoiding, lost a couple, & was talked about like he was nothing. The boxing media glorified unbeaten fighters who only took on chumps. College basketball has gotten to that point, too. The local media is raving about the Pitt men's record, mostly achieved in home games against patsies. The Power 5 schools won't schedule a tough opponent during the nonconference schedule & won't accept road games. The nonconference schedule thru-out college basketball is mostly boring. I applaud Dan for taking on tough opponents & going anywhere to play anybody. (This year he didn't have much of a choice with the unavailability of the Palumbo, but still, that's how he's usually done it.) I don't want to pay to see my team blow out bad teams night after night. I want good games. For example, I remember way back when Wooden's UCLA Bruins came here for the Steel Bowl. Wouldn't it be cool to see teams of that caliber in person today? Was out at Maples Pavilion Saturday to watch #11 Stanford defeat #3 Baylor. Earlier this season, saw (then #9) Oregon State defeat South Carolina and then (barely) lost to (then) #1 Notre Dame- so please don't paint Power 5 schools with such a broad brush. Was out at Maples Pavilion Saturday to watch #11 Stanford defeat #3 Baylor. Earlier this season, saw (then #9) Oregon State defeat South Carolina and then (barely) lost to (then) #1 Notre Dame- so please don't paint Power 5 schools with such a broad brush. Fair enough - I should not paint the Power 5 with a broad brush. Of course, they do play one another at times. At the same time, many will avoid tough games & environments if they can. We already know that Penn St. & WVU won't play our men at Palumbo. I doubt Pitt would either. A few years back when the series moved to the campus sites, Pitt played at Palumbo once; next time it was our turn to host, Steve Pederson put public pressure on DU to move the game to the soon-to-be-departed Civic Arena one last time for the sake of nostalgia. C'mon, Pederson had Pitt Stadium torn down, he didn't give a crap about honoring the Civic Arena. If we ever get to the point where DU's men can dominate the Pitt series, Pitt would surely cancel it. They'd make up some BS about needing the extra revenue from an additional game at the Pete so they could compete in the ACC. OK, I'm ranting a bit, but I hate how ESPN has anointed 5 certain conferences with TV deals that give them so much more money & exposure than other schools get. I appreciate your comments. Years back, the Selection Committee made a conscious shift in their evaluation process where you began to see an over-representation of Power Five schools from the same conferences making the Tourney while many mid-majors, with superb records, failed to get in. The situation, as you know, has only gotten worse. I think you described the metrics pretty accurately, meaning that the goal is to get as many mediocre P-5 schools in the tourney as possible. This is why, the Dukes must win the A-10 Tourney to get in. I don't necessarily believe that losing to the likes of TCU and Texas in the first two games would have eliminated us from an at-large if Dukes didn't stumble at all against teams like Toledo, and UCF. Those two losses hurt much more than the P-5 losses. If the Dukes can find a way to upset Syracuse and beat Liberty in the St. Pete Tourney, take care of Pitt, and hope for the best against Temple, then rip through the A-10 and get to the finals of the A-10 Tourney they could have an outside chance. From my perspective the team would really need to pick up its level of play quite a bit to meet those lofty goals. I'm really more concerned with the way the team is playing at this point of the season than with the Selection Committee. Agree that the team's play is critical. This forum is hosted for free by Boardhost. Create your own free forum!
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El Duque - as to your inquiry about Nina - she was NOT in the Box Score against PSU - don't know if she was with the team - present on the bench etc.
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Agree with Hook Shot about the dribbling - when the team DID crack the press - should have kept blowing to the basket or letting the 3 point shot go (even when they weren't falling) Chassidy and Juliana seem to have that "Shooters Mentality" where if someone goes 0-5 is CONVINCED the SIXTH WILL FALL and end the cold spell - I think with Kalin and Libby it's more of a "deferring to the seniors" - or we are on a shorter leash - so if THEY shoot quickly in a similar situation and the shots don't fall - will be taken out more quickly - did see Chassidy and JV doing the dribbling as well but more often was NOT when the press was broken.
KUDOS to Libby for the way SHE was hitting the boards!!
Update on Nina - WAS on the Bench - BUT in Street Clothes. •
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Before the beginning of the season I posted (4) keys to success for the Dukes to make the NCAA. As the season has progressed (sadly), three of those four keys have not been addressed.
The disparity of points in the paint against UCF and in other games confirms a concern I raised that Duquesne's offense lacks a sufficient inside/outside balance. Kadri-Ann and Laia are capable of scoring inside, but with rare exceptions they either get few touches when they call for the ball, and when they do get the ball, the defense collapses on them. There is one Duquesne guard who hardly EVER looks to pass the ball inside. The offensive sets are designed for our perimeter players- SAD.
As a slower, less athletic team, the Dukes need to adjust their defense, but this has not happened. Before the season, I suggested Duquesne mix up the defense with pressure zones. Other teams (with similar skills and athleticism) do it all the time to make their more athletic, quicker opponents struggle. For reasons that I don't understand, Duquesne will not go more zone, especially against teams like UCF. THIS GAME COULD HAVE BEEN WON, but it was way too easy for UCF to drive to the hoop for almost uncontested layups.
Last year, Duquesne's rebounding was horrible. Although statistically, the rebounding looks credible, UCF got too many offensive rebounds, especially late in the game. I don't believe you can teach toughness, but you can teach players to block out. Eniko would have helped, but our block outs are ineffective.
I'm afraid Duquesne is a team that will continue to rely on 3-point shooting to win their games and pretty much abandon strong post play. Unless this changes dramatically, I will predict the Dukes (even with a weakened A10) will not make the 'Big Dance'. Sure wish Amadea had another year of eligibility!
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So, they are a team that Duquesne could beat, but would need to clean up the offensive rebounds and hit more open shots. it can easily be done.
I believe Dan's philosophy this year is to schedule as tough as possible in the non-con and pay little attention to the record. Prepare the team with the toughest opponents, and forget about an at-large out of the A-10, unless you are part of the backdoor inner circle of women's basketball, or you have a ridiculous record dotted with wins over P-5 teams on the road. So pay little attention to the outcome of these games. The focus will be on winning the A-10 Tournament, pure and simple. That is our path to the NCAA. The rest is insignificant, don't worry about it!
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It suggests that Duquesne is putting all its marbles into winning the A10 Tourney. Because of Duquesne's less than stellar non-conference performance, winning the A10 regular season title will do nothing to ensure an NCAA bid.
It means (come March), Duquesne has only ONE CHANCE to get to the big dance, and it means running the table for the A10 tourney crown. We have all seen how Duquesne comes close, but can't get over the finish line.
Again, you may be absolutely correct in your assessment. I'm respectfully saying that route is a very narrow path to get to the NCAA.
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Officer Dribble wrote:
My earlier comment was about the math. Whether you applaud the strategy or not, there is now only one path for the Dukes to get to the big Dance and (as flawed as it may be) we will not see the NCAA Committee change their philosophy for selecting at large schools who do not win their conference tournament, any time soon.
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sperlman wrote:
My earlier comment was about the math. Whether you applaud the strategy or not, there is now only one path for the Dukes to get to the big Dance and (as flawed as it may be) we will not see the NCAA Committee change their philosophy for selecting at large schools who do not win their conference tournament, any time soon.
We seem to agree that the tournament selection is flawed. Thanks for your reply.
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I come from a Power Five conference (the PAC-12) and love the Stanford women (I also love Duquesne and several other mid-majors). While the talent level and play is obviously much higher, I believe the beauty of the women's game has been permanently eroded when six or even seven PAC-12 schools are invited to the 'big dance' while mid-majors (with exceptional seasons) are left out.
I learned details from two Committee members on the reasoning behind their decision-making and I find the rationale flawed.
There was a time (you might remember) when winning the regular season conference mattered. It no longer matters. That means a mid-major who wins the regular season can have one off-game in the tourney and not make it to the NCAA. Why (then) have a regular season? I don't understand those metrics.
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I had the impression that Dan touted this year's team would be 'very good' (and that may still play out), but from my perspective, last year's team (at a similar point in the season), was performing much better; especially with a greater inside/outside scoring balance.
I am certainly no coach and I lack the insights regarding what is going on with certain players, but I am quite surprised and disappointed that Laia Sole (who Dan said is the best offensive post player he has ever coached), is not getting more minutes and (more importantly) is not in the lineup very much along with Kadi-Ann. I recall when Kadri-Ann and Amadea had a great high/low post thing going. The way things are now, Duquesne's opponents 'squeeze' Kadri-Ann - where she has difficulty getting the ball in the low post. Sole's presence would give the Dukes another post option. The other problem is, there are certain players (whose names I won't mention), who consistently do not feed the ball into the posts. I would bench them.
I hope you are right about the team coming together soon. Other than launching 3 point shots at a very low percentage of baskets made, the offense struggles in the half court to manufacture points. Lots of respect for Assistant Coach Matt, but the offensive patterns he designed (and worked so well with some prior teams), may need a revisit.
Defensively, (and again I'm a fan, not a coach), I would love to see a pressure zone because our gals cannot defend quicker, more athletic teams.
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