duqkurt wrote:

Realignment thread.  A10 board. Post 318.  You used the term "A-10 leftovers" when replying to Muddy post kicking us out of reorganized conference.  Muddy didn't coin that term. You did.

Post 278  of the same thread.  Instead of trying to be positive or even staying silent you put us in the group of schools left behind after the top schools bolt.  And who you want to come join us in lesser A10.


With friends like this, who needs enemies?

I understand. You believe we should be in a glorified MAAC.  I get it.

You're a clown. You're taking those posts totally out of context. Feel free to go back to the Scout board.

duqkurt wrote:

I took it out of context.  You didn't defend us. You put us in the lesser conference. 

First sign of a differing opinion than yours you want me out.

And I thought better of my friends and enemies comment after posting it and removed that.  I stand by my other statements.

I did defend us. The poster put us in a league with St. Francis. I argued that we'd never accept that.  I'm trying to argue realistically. You want me to argue that we're equal to Villanova. Sorry, we're not. LaSalle, Bona, and GW are our peers, and guess what? All have been to multiple NCAA's since we have, yet you think we're above being in a league with them. You're beyond silly.

duqkurt wrote:

A clown and beyond silly.  I am talking about your comments. You are attacking me personally.

Where did I say we are above being in a league with them?  I like the league we are in with them. I don't want that to change.

I don't want us or them to be kicked out. Or the top teams to leave.

The top teams are going to do what's best for them, as they should. If we were somehow invited to be in a league with Villanova, I'd hope we'd leave without so much as a second thought, but if we end up in a diminished A10, as was being speculated on the A10 board, I would hope that we'd be able to put together the best league possible. That said, let's get real. Your problem with me, is that I haven't wanted to join your little lynch mob that's out to get the AD.

duqkurt wrote:

My little lynch mob comprises one person.   Me.  No one shares my opinion of him.  Show me where a bunch of people have agreed with my thoughts on that issue.

And I said that when I joined here, I wouldn't criticize him here. That I would operate by the rules of this board. And I have. 

I didn't  like your comments. But I never called you a clown.

If you disagreed with my comments, you should have debated them on the A10 board, not whined about them here.
The bottom line is this; at this point in time, Duquesne only has one thing going for it with regard to getting in a league with the Villanovas of the world, and that's our location, and media market. I'm very worried that that will not be enough. We need to start winning at a high level, and soon, or a diminished A10 could very well be in our future. Your problem is that you're a newbie to these boards, and haven't been around for 15 years of having to constantly read that Duquesne is "garbage", and needs to be kicked out of the league. I could try to argue, but the truth is, I don't have a leg to stand on. We've pretty much contributed nothing to the league over the last 30 years. Terrible teams, tiny crowds, student apathy, a crappy venue, and zero NCAA credits, and you want me to get into a pissing match with the crazy fans from Dayton, and Xavier? I don't have a problem getting into it with fans of other teams, I do it all of the time on various Steeler boards. The difference, is that the Steelers have been the NFL's most successful franchise over the last 40 years. I have ammunition galore to use against the enemy. Arguing for Duquesne is like going into a gun fight with a stick. You have to pick your spots to make the few points that you can in our favor, or to chide the legion of disdainful fans of other teams. Many of our fans hate reading the negative comments, and knowing they have little ammo to fight back with, so they stay off of the A10 board.

I do apologize for calling you a clown. Name calling is almost never justified.

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As CLK said, there are many who are angry at GA. Some didn't like the fact that he fired Ron at all. I'm not one of them. Others, are more angry at the sloppy way it was handled; I'm definitely in that camp. I agree with the sleeping giant part, but we've been saying that for 30 years. You can't blame the skeptics for rolling their eyes. At some point, the giant has to wake up. I read other boards regularly, and I have a good idea of the feelings of both the A10 powers, and the BE Catholics. There is actually quite a bit of sentiment to kick the unproductive BE Catholics to the curb (mainly Seton Hall, and DePaul). They are being derided as leeches, and bloodsuckers. This is not good for Duquesne. If there is that much disdain for a team in the third largest market in the country, what chance does an unproductive Duquesne have. The bottom line is; we need to win big, and it needs to be soon.

My problem is deeper with Amodio.  I believe he underminded Ron and hurt his chance to be more successful at DU.  Therer were a lot of rumors flying long before TJ left about Amodio wanting Guadio to be the next coach.  Bringing Guadio into Ron's locker room did not solidify Ron's standing with his team.  Not saying that is why TJ left but it sure didn't help.  It was only because some of the pundits called Amodio out in the press and on social media that the back lash happened and he was not able to get his wish. 

With regard to your comment on DU chances is exactly what I meant about allowing other people to define us.  The focus needs to be drawn by DU to near term history.  The Dukes were hardly bloodsuckers over the last 5 years.  We have a world class arena at our door step that we can use and proved that we can draw big crowds.  I am sick of this small time thinking and negative self perceptions.  Again this goes back to leadership, direction and marketing.  All of which is lacking at DU.

My concern in all of this is that the Big Least basketball-only schools see the A-10 conference as a potential threat to potential options which they have discussed and will react (not act) by pulling the A10's fangs and neutering it by suddenly inviting the A10's top basketball programs to join them. If it happens, it will be sudden and not as expected as many of us would like to believe.

A couple of interesting stories on BE catholics and A10

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8735643/did-big-east-core-catholic-basketball-schools-wake-college-basketball

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8736716/atlantic-10-open-adding-big-east-basketball-schools-creating-21-team-conference-source

Interesting.  Andy Katz at halftime of St. Joes - Villanova says that disolving the Big East may not be as easy as simply the vote and the easiest path for these schools would be to actually join the A10, and try and contest any exit fee. 

Then Katz said Georgetown (not Villanova) is the holdout and wants to get into the BCS conference.  I believe it was Katz.  It could have been Gaudio. 

The Dino Gaudio said his sources, (hmmmm, I wonder who that can be) says that the A10 would accept them but it would not be a 21 team A10.   However, a 16 or 18 team A10.   Gaudio identified Fordham and LaSalle getting the boot.   He identified teams with small inadequate gyms.


Do people think that if we had the opportunity to be in this conference based on the fact we would have to move all games to the CEC the school would do this?

Or do you think it would be used as excuse to keep the current budget and move to the MAAC?

Last edited by duqkurt (12/11/2012 8:04 pm)