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I think this is a very good article in describing DU's recent struggles. It is not a difficult thing to understand. By the way, clouded in the sea on negativity on this board I need to give a shout out to Tavian for one hell of a second half against Dayton. I credit him and his shooting, defense, and spark plug energy for the leading the big come back. By the way, clouded in the sea on negativity on this board I need to give a shout out to Tavian for one hell of a second half against Dayton. I credit him and his shooting, defense, and spark plug energy for the leading the big come back. That has gotten lost in the overview we’ve all taken after the Dayton game. It was definitely his most complete game in his time here. Usually a good game for him means he shot well. Against Dayton he was distributing the ball and contributing defensively too. His assists set up some big dunks and his steals turned momentum our way too. Hopefully the complete game isn’t a flash in the pan. Last edited by luckymcd (2/01/2020 10:28 am) Man, I really disagree with this analysis. TDM was quite bad, particularly defensively, for the first 30ish minutes of the game. During that time period, he also made his usual 2 or 3 ill-advised drives & threw up 2 slightly soul-crushing deep balls at inopportune moments. Additionally, the first & larger of the comeback runs largely came to a halt as a result of 2 unforced turnovers from him. While he wasn't the only reason that the lead bulged back out to 11 points, he was certainly responsible for a fair chunk of the blame. I thought KD might burst an artery because TDM was so out of defensive position on one of the plays that got Dayton back on track. Phil , if you reread my post I specifically referenced his play in the second half. Although you will not give the kid any credit, others recognized his efforts. Phil , if you reread my post I specifically referenced his play in the second half. Although you will not give the kid any credit, others recognized his efforts. I wasn't referring to & did not quote your post. I was commenting on the next post from luckymcd saying this was TDM's "most complete game in his time here ". Perhaps I should have been more clear. Everything in your post from the quality of the article you linked to the props due to TDM for his second-half performance is spot-on. Phil, part of the problem with message boards in general is that it is an unclear way of communicating. Just as I assumed you were replying to me in your first paragraph, you assumed I was referring to you when I said "some posters" suffer from TDM Derangement Syndrome. There are some guys on this board who are fixated on ripping certain players. TDM being one, Hughes and Carry being others. Heck some are resurfacing to start on KD again. It may be considered "interesting discussions" to some, but to others like me it is derangement. I have had conversations with several long time posters who just stopped posting due to the constant negativity and bashing of players on this board. (Note I am not talking about you). I use to post a lot of information on this board that others might find interesting like recruiting (such as Tyson Acuff scored 38 points tonight), articles about the Dukes, things I would hear from some people I know. I really do not feel like doing that any more, because more often than not they get hijacked and turned into negative or twisted conversations. The problem is social media N communicating without speaking in person or by voice. I take no side but say that but for TDMS 3s we dont get back into that game. Hes 5'7 of hustle n guts. Gotta love his tenacity, but he can be a liability at times. I think it gets to the deeper issue of guard depth which has already been addressed. I wasn't referring to & did not quote your post. I was commenting on the next post from luckymcd saying this was TDM's "most complete game in his time here ". Perhaps I should have been more clear. Everything in your post from the quality of the article you linked to the props due to TDM for his second-half performance is spot-on. I certainly don't think TDM played a perfect game, but I do still think it was his most complete effort. He is always a spark plug for the team, but usually it is just with three pointers. If he makes his threes it was a good game for him, if he doesn't it was a bad game for him. He was more involved in every facet of the game against Dayton than in any other game I can remember. He did shoot pretty well against the Flyers, but even if he hadn't it would have been a solid game from him. That's not something you can usually say. So I feel like it was his most complete game. There is still room for improvement (as there is with all the players) but I hope the completeness of his game continues. Last edited by luckymcd (2/02/2020 9:16 am) Well said.
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It would be foolish to suggest that TDM was anything thing but awesome during the 2 comeback runs. He was the spark. He is frequently the spark when the Dukes do their best work.
It is also wrong to suggest that he does more harm than good for games at a time. His overall contribution has been positive in every game I have ever seen him play. However, in my opinion, the margin by which his contribution is more positive than negative is too narrow far too often due to his mental errors & lack of discipline.
Several posters have voiced approval of KD having sent an a accountability message to Big Mike by giving Rotroff the start & making sure the press/fans knew why. I too am in that camp.
KD seems to be a guy that does his best to let players work through these kinds of issues on their own & with a minimum of public intervention. While there is plenty of speculation that he pushed EW out or Eric was a cancer on the team or EW left because of being mistreated, no normal fan really knows the truth because KD & staff handled that situation with professionalism & disciplined, mature communications. Whether you like the outcome of the EW situation or not, this is a sign of a much-improved program.
I feel like KD has been very, publicly, consistent in these matters with the exception of handling TDM's decision making. One of my friends & fellow Dukes fan is convinced that KD has a rare & undiagnosed case of TDMnesia. I think he is right. Tavian seems to get a pass where others do not.
At this point, TDM isn't going to get taller & is unlikely to show massive improvement as a shooter. That is fine. However, I just know, deep in my Dukes soul, that if TDM was reigned in a bit & held more accountable for his decision making, the Dukes would have won a few more games over the last season and a half.
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His stat line indicates that he made 4 three pointer out of nine shots, had 4 assists, 4 steals and only three turnovers. I remember two of those turnovers occurring in the first half. Really seems harsh to point to his play in your comments.
Your our other point on TDM of “that if TDM was reigned in a bit & held more accountable for his decision making, the Dukes would have won a few more games over the last season and a half”, the same could be said of several other players. The reverse is also true that if it not for key shots and spirited play we could have lost more games.
Finally, in regard to your comment on TDMnesia, I would say that some posters suffer from TDM Derangement Syndrome. Just my opinion. •
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His stat line indicates that he made 4 three pointer out of nine shots, had 4 assists, 4 steals and only three turnovers. I remember two of those turnovers occurring in the first half. Really seems harsh to point to his play in your comments.
Your our other point on TDM of “that if TDM was reigned in a bit & held more accountable for his decision making, the Dukes would have won a few more games over the last season and a half”, the same could be said of several other players. The reverse is also true that if it not for key shots and spirited play we could have lost more games.
Finally, in regard to your comment on TDMnesia, I would say that some posters suffer from TDM Derangement Syndrome. Just my opinion.
I very much enjoy luckymcd's posts. They frequently make me think because I don't always agree with him. I was just adding to the discussion of a topic that interests me. In general, disagreeing with someone else's ideas is not a hostile act & this instance was certainly not intended for that purpose.
If my post seemed particularly pointed & Irubbed luckymcd the wrong way, my apologies. That was not my goal.
Maybe you might consider rereading my post. In what way is this me NOT giving Tavian any credit for Wednesday's contribution & his entire body of work?
"It would be foolish to suggest that TDM was anything but awesome during the 2 comeback runs. He was the spark. He is frequently the spark when the Dukes do their best work."
Much obliged for inferring that my opinion on TDM is deranged. Great job keeping the discourse civil & sticking to discussing Dukes basketball. You certainly proved that your opinion is not only superior to mine but also more rational.
TDMnesia is a clever & funny quip. I wish I would have thought of it. I'm pretty sure KD can handle the satire. This board is fast becoming a humor-free zone.
I shall now dismount my high horse & return to the previously scheduled basketball programming. BEAT LASALLE!
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We are 15-5. We have won 75% of our games so far. I think I will take my uncivil self for venting against this negativity and just enjoy the rest of the season.
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I very much enjoy luckymcd's posts. They frequently make me think because I don't always agree with him. I was just adding to the discussion of a topic that interests me. In general, disagreeing with someone else's ideas is not a hostile act & this instance was certainly not intended for that purpose.
If my post seemed particularly pointed & Irubbed luckymcd the wrong way, my apologies. That was not my goal.
Having said all of that, I certainly didn't take any offense to your statements Phil. One of many things that has gone wrong with modern culture (god I sound old) is that civil discourse has all but disappeared. Like you said, disagreeing with someone is not a hostile action in and of itself. Good people can have totally differing viewpoints and still get along and discuss their differences. Everything is more black and white with social media, either you agree with me or you're wrong. It doesn't have to be that way, and when it becomes that way society fails. I have never felt like you were that way. I love discussing Dukes basketball and am always open to doing so no matter someone's viewpoint as long as it's civil. We all love the Dukes, so I'd rather not talk about it at all than have it turn into a shouting match or name calling.
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I hope our Dukes are feeling the desperation today. A resounding victory is needed not only to get back on track but to substantiate this season's earlier success. A businesslike showing that results in a 10-15 point win is just what the doctor ordered.
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