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2:00pm EST tip on Saturday 02/22/2020 at the Dayton Arena, Dayton, OH Last edited by PhoenixRising2 (2/21/2020 10:02 pm) Haslametrics = has the Dukes as 110th in the country; and OUT in the NCAA Tournament. As always, thanks Phoenix. The only way Duquesne will win is if Dayton takes the Dukes totally for granted. Since the last game was close and their coach is excellent, I doubt that he will let that happen. We already know Duquesne will get killed on the boards. Foul shooting could be even but our big men will get crushed. Go Dukes! Last edited by FAM (2/21/2020 7:17 pm) Dukes will probably lose but they could possibly win because(not a great analogy bur Fam if i checked correctly we beat them on the boards at PPG. I think shooting was the difference in the first go around. Mike Hughes, Sincere n Marcus have to play at a high level for us to stand a chance. Last meeting at halftime Mike and Marcus had a combined 0 fouls. That was huge and I disagree with the sentiment that our bigs are going to be "crushed" as Toppin is shaky against physical presence down low. We have a shot tomorrow, the shots just need to drop. Instead of one player having a standout game we need two or three people to step up. Trib Aritcle: Keith Dambrot coaches his players' minds, too, as No. 5 Dayton looms We need production from the 2 and 3. Without that, we don't stand a chance. Here's a 27 minute "highlight" video from the January 29 meeting. (pretty much the entire game) That second half run is my favorite moment of this season by far. Last edited by BluffHunter (2/21/2020 9:26 pm) I, like many of you, are worried that my team is falling apart down the stretch. Trib Aritcle: Keith Dambrot coaches his players' minds, too, as No. 5 Dayton looms I have absolutely no use for KD's comments about it being 2/20,how hard to practice the team, not practicing on Thursday, & having one less day of preparation than than the other team as seen in the video accompanying this article. We have already proven we can play with them, we just have to execute the gameplan fpr 40 minutes instead of 20 minutes. They are a big team, but not a physical team, and not an especially good defensive team. Our guards can beat them off the dribble, our bigs can get position inside, we can beat them on the glass (we did in the first game). They are a damn good team, so it's going to take a great game to beat them, but we don't need heroes. We need five guys playing as one unit on both sides of the ball. I agree with a number of you in terms of Dambrot looking like he is starting to make excuses as he goes down his end of the yearly downhill slide. Is he better than Ferry... omg it’s not even close. He has brought back wins and hope! But if he lets this team slide again at the end and makes excuses... it points to a pattern of him not knowing what to do. Once I understand..., twice... I get it... if you do this three years in a row it’s a big problem. We need production from the 2 and 3. Without that, we don't stand a chance. I agree Duq81 The Dukes bigs have been very good. A10 is a guard league because the 3-5 star big recruits generally go power 5 & Big East. Dambrot has done a yeoman’s job regarding bigs. Surprisingly Dambrot or his staff have missed the boat on guards. Sincere is outstanding strong smart & has a bulldog mentality. TDM nobody would have given this kid a chance based on his size. Luv this kid. The supporting guards are struggling. No D no slash & as Joey G said cant find sand if they fell off a camel shooting 3’s.. Guards recruiting wise are A dime a dozen Bigs are tough to find. One final note Phil95 comments about Dambrot hopefully does not bringback the lynching days regarding Ron. Look who followed Ronnie.? What a joke.Do we really need to run out another coach. Next years Dukes have a new home. Dambrot with the new transfer portal can pick up some decent transfer as well as 5 th year seniors. Please no comments about the reverse transfer rule. This board is already going a bit negative. Enjoy the rest of the season my friends.win or lose that early winning streak bringing some national recognition was fun. We need production from the 2 and 3. Without that, we don't stand a chance. ^^^This^^^ The 2 spot has not been consistent offensively, running hot and cold with Lamar and Tavian; in many cases, in the same game. Lamar has been doing a pretty good job defensively; he has significantly improved on that end of the court. But he still sometimes loses focus and gets caught flat footed and out of position; he just needs to work on becoming more consistent. Tavian is a good defender and an overall pest; his lack of height is his limitation. Dukes ain’t looking like a MAC team today boys. About as good a half as we could have expected. About as good a half as we could have expected. Great play from Marcus and Sincere. Still very little from the 2 and 3. Need some production there if we plan to finish this. Watching on Stadium Yeah, even the announcers are saying they're going to have to hit 3s to pull off the upset. Instead Dayton's making all the 3s. Oh well. Instead Dayton's making all the 3s. Oh well. Hard to win basically playing 3 on 5. Shooting Was just a matter of time. Dayton a level above everyone else in this league. Instead Dayton's making all the 3s. Oh well. Hard to win basically playing 3 on 5. Who's the other non-entity besides Maceo?
CURRENT RECORD 9 - 14 (4-6 in the A-10)
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Per KenPom:
Dukes #98 (18-7; 8-5) vs Dayton Flyers #6 (24-2; 13-0)
Game prediction: Dukes lose by 15, 79-64 - Dukes with 9% probability of a win.
Betting line: Dukes are 14½ point underdogs; Over/Under 142
Duquesne 10-15 Against the Spread; Dayton 14-11-1 ATSFirst Meeting: Dayton 73-69 (H) Box Score:
Dukes Best Win(s): Davidson (74); Saint Louis-2 (89); Indiana State (116)
Dukes Worst Loss(es): George Washington (210); UAB (189); UMass (186)
Dayton Best Win(s): Saint Mary's (38); Rhode Island (43); Richmond (50)
Dayton Worst Loss(es): Colorado (19); Kansas (1)Four Factors ==> Effective field goal percentage; Turnover percentage; Offensive rebounding percentage; Free throw rate (shown below if team has Top 100 ranking overall or top 4 in conference as a strength; if team has Bottom 100 ranking or bottom 4 in conference as a weakness)Here's a look at Dayton for the season (national ranking out of 353 teams):
Offensive Strength: Effective FG% (1)
Offensive Weakness: None
Defensive Strength: Effective FG% (59)
Defensive Weakness: NoneHere's a look at Dayton in the A-10 (conference ranking out of 14 teams):
Offensive Strength: Effective FG% (1); FT Rate (3)
Offensive Weakness: Offensive Rebound % (11)
Defensive Strength: Effective FG% (1)
Defensive Weakness: NoneHere's a look at the Dukes for the season (national ranking out of 353 teams):
Offensive Strength: None
Offensive Weakness: None
Defensive Strength: Effective FG % (80); FT Rate (79); Turnover % (93)
Defensive Weakness: Offensive Rebound % (250)Here's a look at the Dukes in the A-10 (conference ranking out of 14 teams):
Offensive Strength: None
Offensive Weakness: None
Defensive Strength: FT Rate (3)
Defensive Weakness: Offensive Rebound % (14)Points per Possession and Number of Possessions
Dayton Adj Offense Efficiency - 118.2, #2 in D-1; 113.2, #1 in A-10
-vs Dukes Adj Defense Efficiency - 97.6, #91 in D-1; 99.2, #5 in A-10
Dayton Adj Defense Efficiency - 94.1, #53 in D-1; 94.3, #3 in A-10
-vs Dukes Adj Offense Efficiency - 105.0, #120 in D-1; 102.2, #6 in A-10
Dayton Adj Tempo - 68.4, #195 in D-1; 68.3, #7 in A-10
-vs Dukes Adj Tempo - 68.1, #209 in D-1; 66.7, #10 in A-10Miscellaneous
Experience - Dayton 2.06 yrs, #65 in D-1; Dukes 1.42 yrs, #264 in D-1
Minutes Continuity - Dayton 63.7%, #52 in D-1; Dukes 55.3%, #114 in D-1
Average Height - Dayton 76.8", #189 in D-1; Dukes 75.9", #302 in D-1
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Dayton is 15th in the country and a #2 seed in the NCAA.
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so what}
Murray State(19-7) led Easter illinois(13-14) by 27 points with 11:30 left in the game
East Ill won 63-60. Game at East Ill.
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And then I see this VCU-SLU game on at the bar and dont worry nearly as much
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Of the 5 losses in the last 8 games the Dukes were, IN PART, not victorious because they were outworked, out coached, & the other team had more fight, juice, spirit, etc... This was also true of of the most recent win.
With the exception of URI & Dayton, none of those teams is deeper or had less injury problems than DU. None of them looked worn out by the rigors of the season.
There is plenty of talent & depth on this team to pound the likes of UMass, GW, Fordham, & LaSalle. It is a competitive league, all of thise aren't going to be blowout wins; I get that. However, not having soundly beaten any & in 2 cases losing to these teams is quite telling.
Knock on wood; the Dukes have enjoyed good fortune on the injury front since
well before the season began. No player in the top 8 has missed any meaningful time. No Frankie & Amari sucks but, neither nor both of those cats were going to push this this team up 20 spots in the NET rating.
Just yesterday I wrote that I believe the team to have gotten better each of KD's 3 seasons. I stand by that. I am getting concerned about the excuse making that has crept into the last few interviews I have seen.
In addition to being a significantly better coach, KD is also a much more skilled rhetorician than Ferry. He isn't going to start blaming his kids outright. I'm just getting a bit paranoid that coach is massaging the narrative a bit to soften we diehards up for a crap ending to a positive trending season.
For the next few weeks, I so want to see a team that plays with the maximum energy for 40 minutes that comes from being absolutley desperate to win.
Go, go, go Dukes!
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I'm curious about Dambrot's comments at practice about having fun and enjoying the games while they last. They could be taken a lot of different ways. I'm hoping it doesn't mean we'll see 30 threes. As much as I've been calling for the press this season, this probably isn't the game to do it since they are so good in transition, but maybe it means we will see some of it. It sounds like we are all in on this game, which can be a good thing or a bad thing. If it means we are hyper focused and everyone buys in to do whatever it takes then it will be a battle and it's one we can win. If they do what they've done to a whole lot of teams this season and beat us up, it could kill the season.
I expect us to take it right to them and for it to be a competitive game. I think they'll get a few big plays and get the crowd into it though. I don't think we're mature enough as a team to handle that type of environment. I fear we'll either go into a hole completely or just try to shoot our way back into it. I'll say Dayton 77 Duquesne 66, but of course I hope I'm wrong.
Go Dukes! It was 40 years ago today Herb Brooks told the US hockey team "great moments are born from great opportunity." Dayton is not the Soviets, but this is still a great opportunity. A win today gets us right back to where we were at the beginning of the conference season and gives us confidence for the stretch run. "Go out and take it."
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Go Dukes.
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The Dukes collectively need to find a way to get Maceo back on track in order for the 3 spot to be productive. I feel badly for this young man; he is going through a lot. Unfortunately for the Dukes, they don't have many options besides Maceo at this spot; they are forced to play 3 guards or 3 bigs. I took a look at the stats difference between the non conference Maceo and the conference Maceo playing 28 minutes a game.
Points: 9.1 non con vs 5.9 conf
FG % 45.7 vs. 34.1
3pt % 36.1 vs 22.5
FT % 84.6 vs 60.0
A/TO 20/14 vs 21/25
Rebounds 4.1 vs 3.8
Hopefully, Maceo can get back on track today; the Dukes desperately need him for the team to get back on track. •
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Dukes playing well but
Dukes shooting 53% for 38 points
Can they continue at this rate?
Need good 3 shooting to stay close and win it at the end
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duq81 wrote:DennisC91 wrote:
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