Thanks Indy, that is insightful and WashPa your point is well taken too.

Can someone clarify the COVID and transfer rules for me?  Here are some of my questions:
1.  Does every class/year get an additional year of eligibility or is it limited to current seniors?  I other words if you played this year as a Junior do you still have 2 more years of eligibility?  
2.  With this new transfer rule can anyone transfer from one school to another and not have to sit out a year?
3.  And if someone does transfer (#2 above) do they have to do so by a certain date to be immediately eligible the following season?  I am wondering given the timing of SC's transfer.
4.  Once someone transfers one time what are the restrictions/rules if they decide to transfer a second time?
Thanks
Pistol

PistolPete wrote:

Can someone clarify the COVID and transfer rules for me?  Here are some of my questions:
1.  Does every class/year get an additional year of eligibility or is it limited to current seniors?  I other words if you played this year as a Junior do you still have 2 more years of eligibility?  
2.  With this new transfer rule can anyone transfer from one school to another and not have to sit out a year?
3.  And if someone does transfer (#2 above) do they have to do so by a certain date to be immediately eligible the following season?  I am wondering given the timing of SC's transfer.
4.  Once someone transfers one time what are the restrictions/rules if they decide to transfer a second time?
Thanks
Pistol

All players get an additional year of eligibility. Since players were free to opt out of this past season, the 2020-21 season does not count against their eligibility. Everyone will be the same class in 2021-22 as they were in 2020-21. Returning seniors don't count against their team's 13 scholarships, everyone else does. Seniors who graduate-transfer will count against their new team's scholarship cap.

As far as I know, the transfer rule still remains in effect. That is, a player must sit out for two semesters at their new school before they become eligible. This is waived for graduate transfers and anymore it seems to be waived for players whose scholarship isn't renewed by their previous school, the coach was fired at their previous school or some other hardship. But if a player transfers voluntarily, he must sit out for two semesters. Sincere Carry should be eligible to play for Kent St. by sometime in December, depending on when Kent's fall semester ends. He'll have two years of eligibility remaining. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong on this.

If a kid transfers, then wants to transfer again, he'll have immediate eligibility if he completes his undergraduate degree. If not, I'm not quite sure how it would work given the old you have five years to complete your four years of eligibility rule. 
 

DennisC91 wrote:

PistolPete wrote:

Can someone clarify the COVID and transfer rules for me?  Here are some of my questions:
1.  Does every class/year get an additional year of eligibility or is it limited to current seniors?  I other words if you played this year as a Junior do you still have 2 more years of eligibility?  
2.  With this new transfer rule can anyone transfer from one school to another and not have to sit out a year?
3.  And if someone does transfer (#2 above) do they have to do so by a certain date to be immediately eligible the following season?  I am wondering given the timing of SC's transfer.
4.  Once someone transfers one time what are the restrictions/rules if they decide to transfer a second time?
Thanks
Pistol

All players get an additional year of eligibility. Since players were free to opt out of this past season, the 2020-21 season does not count against their eligibility. Everyone will be the same class in 2021-22 as they were in 2020-21. Returning seniors don't count against their team's 13 scholarships, everyone else does. Seniors who graduate-transfer will count against their new team's scholarship cap.

As far as I know, the transfer rule still remains in effect. That is, a player must sit out for two semesters at their new school before they become eligible. This is waived for graduate transfers and anymore it seems to be waived for players whose scholarship isn't renewed by their previous school, the coach was fired at their previous school or some other hardship. But if a player transfers voluntarily, he must sit out for two semesters. Sincere Carry should be eligible to play for Kent St. by sometime in December, depending on when Kent's fall semester ends. He'll have two years of eligibility remaining. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong on this.

If a kid transfers, then wants to transfer again, he'll have immediate eligibility if he completes his undergraduate degree. If not, I'm not quite sure how it would work given the old you have five years to complete your four years of eligibility rule. 
 

That is not my understanding.  Under the existing Covid Exemption all players are granted an additional year of eligibility and may transfer without sitting out. If they transfer again they have to sit out a year.  The NCAA is considering making this exemption permanent
 

I know a blanket transfer waiver was granted in December to give players who had transferred last year immediate eligibility in 2020-21, so long as it was their first transfer, they were in good standing academically, certify they weren't recruited, etc. But I'm not clear that this waiver was extended to next season. If it was, wouldn't VerbalCommits indicate that just about every player transferring has immediate eligibility?

If anyone finds a statement or article that says the blanket transfer waiver applies to next season as well, please share. As best as I can tell, the NCAA was expected to make the one-time transfer waiver permanent at its meeting in January--not just for basketball but for all sports--but tabled the proposal in response to external factors, including possible Justice Department involvement. So it would seem that the original transfer rules remain for the time being but there's been surprisingly little written about this since then that I can find.

Last edited by DennisC91 (3/23/2021 12:02 pm)

CLK wrote:

Again it is my understanding, that anyone who transfer this year will be immediately eligible for the 2021-22 season. That is why the Portal is exploding.  I read on Rothstein's site that the NCAA was going to meet at the Final Four to consider making the rule permanent

Not official yet, but does seem to be moving in that direction. Sounds like the D1 Council will meet again next month and is expected to extend the transfer waiver to next season until the NCAA comes up with a permanent proposal. And the NCAA president, Mark Emmert, is on record as saying the NCAA will give a lot of flexibility on transfer waivers until a final proposal is approved. 

I think the portal's also exploding because every graduating senior gets an extra year and can play for any program that will have them next year. Though I wonder if that's also discouraging some underclassmen from transferring as they may not necessarily be able to secure a roster spot somewhere else with all these 5th-year seniors to compete against.

Thinking this guy is a real get. He's going to be our sleeper this year. Just looks the part we haven't seen since Atkins or Moore. Can shoot the long range jumper, mix it up underneath, and just get in your face. Dukes going to be physical. Things looking up. Wish it was November.

Last edited by Rayrich (3/31/2021 10:31 pm)

1111 Vickroy wrote:

Rayrich wrote:

Thinking this guy is a real get. He's going to be our sleeper this year. Just looks the part we haven't seen since Atkins or Moore. Can shoot the long range jumper, mix it up underneath, and just get in your face. Dukes going to be physical. Things looking up. Wish it was November.

Rayrich you bleed optimism. I love it. I hope you are right about this guy. You also got me wanting to look up Castro you made him sound so good.

Vickroy, I think we got something special happening here. Haven't felt this way in 44 years plus as a fan. Castro is the real deal he'll open it up to the entire court. Dambrot and the DU staff have nailed it. Great under the radar find . Williams will be a stud underneath. Then you got a Gunn and Spears and who knows who else in the portal. Throw in Baker, Okanhi, Harris, Austen, and Acuff. We are in good shape.