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Offline That is a pretty fair & accurate assessment of the roster. However, I find it hard to take this guy too seriously because he either lacks the intel or the balls to call out just how bad KD's coaching has been this season. Offline Everything about this article is, first,KD must find a great 6'10'' player. Good Luck with that one. Every team in D-1 wants that. Second, This article doesn't mention KD's lack of coaching offense. No mention of why KD runs this team like this. Love or hate RE but, each year, he adjusted to what his players could do, not the one size fits all system coach that Ferry or KD's approach to coaching. Just think if either Ferry or KD were in charge of that season that Ron got us to the NIT. Ron adjusted his offense to Jackson and a short bench that year, not the 10-40 that he had tried after the shooting in his first year. Then the next year, with that 11 game winning streak, his team was running much different, adjusting to the abilities of TJ, Damion, Billy, and Johnson. Hell, RE was coach of the year for our Division that year, the last coach before him with that honor was Manning. The point is, Ferry and KD don't adjust to what they have, but make excuses for what doesn't fit their coaching style. We clearly can't out-recruit for those kind of players, infact, KD even said that about Dayton gets players he can't recruit? So find someone like RE that gets the best players he can bring in each year and has the BB I.Q. to adjust each year to the players. Someone, in this University should be asking themselves, why did RE win with nothing, and get paid nothing, but won more here than anyone in the last 40 years. KD even has stated in post game interviews, he can't keep players here, can't out recruit Dayton, and his players are too out of shape to stay on the court for the entire game. Not a good recipe for winning. Not suggesting to get RE back, I doubt he would leave WV for here again, but find a young coach that can tell you coming in here that what made RE win here makes sense, and that finding players for a high scoring offensive team is way more likely here than the slow, half-court style KD is trying to play. Or, likely, BB is dead at DU. Offline That is a pretty fair & accurate assessment of the roster. However, I find it hard to take this guy too seriously because he either lacks the intel or the balls to call out just how bad KD's coaching has been this season. Pretty harsh Phil. I am sure you understand that things are different in the "Real World" where people live in sunlight and have to work for a living, as opposed to the anonymous shadows of Message boards. I thought he did a very good job of outlining where this program is at this point in time. Really would not expect much more from any professional journalist. Offline I appreciate the efforts of Tristan. He comes to games, knows basketball and is a very fair journalist. Offline Napa the 6'10" Syrian kid from Sweeden looks pretty darn good from his videos. Of course every kid looks great on video. In the Recruiting Section there is a post that said he is planning a visit. We will have to wait and see if Dambrot can land him. His recruiting record on getting impact big men at DU has not been that great. Offline Napa the 6'10" Syrian kid from Sweeden looks pretty darn good from his videos. Of course every kid looks great on video. In the Recruiting Section there is a post that said he is planning a visit. We will have to wait and see if Dambrot can land him. His recruiting record on getting impact big men at DU has not been that great. Good point, but it is what I'm saying, without finding his Big players, (that we just can't get) to fit the coach's idea of what an offense is, we will fail. And this has been the pattern for years, except RE's running style of play. I liked KD coming in because I thought like everyone else, that he could recruit top Big players, but his edge on that is pretty played out, and not only can't he get Bigs, but he can't seem to keep players here.He is not adaptable to what he has. KD's teams are too easy to scout to stop, because his narrow approach to offense is pretty easy to stop. It's simple the same plan every game and every year, and he does not have the Big's to pull it off. Never will. Offline That is a pretty fair & accurate assessment of the roster. However, I find it hard to take this guy too seriously because he either lacks the intel or the balls to call out just how bad KD's coaching has been this season. Pretty harsh Phil. I am sure you understand that things are different in the "Real World" where people live in sunlight and have to work for a living, as opposed to the anonymous shadows of Message boards. I thought he did a very good job of outlining where this program is at this point in time. Really would not expect much more from any professional journalist. The reason for the state of the program is not the kids. It is the failure of the coaching staff. That is all this message board has been discussing & that is the real story of DU basketball at present. Last edited by phil95 (2/08/2022 5:32 pm) Offline Phil, Offline That is a pretty fair & accurate assessment of the roster. However, I find it hard to take this guy too seriously because he either lacks the intel or the balls to call out just how bad KD's coaching has been this season. Pretty harsh Phil. I am sure you understand that things are different in the "Real World" where people live in sunlight and have to work for a living, as opposed to the anonymous shadows of Message boards. I thought he did a very good job of outlining where this program is at this point in time. Really would not expect much more from any professional journalist. The reason for the state of the program is not the kids. It is the failure of the coaching staff. That is all this message board has been discussing & that is the real story of DU basketball at present. Very well said. Very good insight. I can tell you, from a personal note, that after the shooting on campus that left RE with just 9 players, and to even have practice, an Assistant Coach had to be a player until Dudy came on the team as a "walk-on". that RE's team in non-conference sucked, but then RE told his 10 players at the start of conf. that every one would play in a system not often used, then he won 5 conf. games in a row against some of the best in the A-10. It was there that I wanted to know just how he knew to do that. I became friends with RE and he was always open and told me about most coaches play just 18 to 20 minutes of a 40 minute game, but if you put your team in the game all 40 minutes, most teams are not prepared to play. In fact, RE knew, like KD's teams are not, most teams are not fit enough to run with you. RE also knew that he could recruit players that were fast, but over-looked for not being big and fit the slow half court game. You just tell me one of RE's starters that could not go 40 minutes? None, but KD tells you his kids are not fit enough. This is how RE won. This is why KD can not and will not win here. RE knew that the tallest team on the court in motion was the fastest team, but standing still, height mattered. RE really never had a starter taller than Damien at 6'7". But won more than KD will ever. Ron over recruited on the promise that kids would put up impressive offensive numbers. KD will never keep kids with his "burn the clock" 50 point games. Never. If you were a prolific scorer in HS, tell me why you would go with KD? But RE did just that. RE didn't try to out recruit Dayton, Hell, he wasn't even looking for those kids. DU can only consistently win with a coach like RE. That is a fact, and the exact reality of DU BB. Answer yourself. Why did RE win here after Nee's teams were the very bottom, and continue to win with little University support? Now we pay a million a year, with a vast assist coaching staff, a new court, with advanced training facilities, and absolutely no chance to ever win with KD? RE cost almost nothing, very little assist. staff and a very out-dated court? Offline Pretty harsh Phil. I am sure you understand that things are different in the "Real World" where people live in sunlight and have to work for a living, as opposed to the anonymous shadows of Message boards. I thought he did a very good job of outlining where this program is at this point in time. Really would not expect much more from any professional journalist. The reason for the state of the program is not the kids. It is the failure of the coaching staff. That is all this message board has been discussing & that is the real story of DU basketball at present. Very well said. Very good insight. I can tell you, from a personal note, that after the shooting on campus that left RE with just 9 players, and to even have practice, an Assistant Coach had to be a player until Dudy came on the team as a "walk-on". that RE's team in non-conference sucked, but then RE told his 10 players at the start of conf. that every one would play in a system not often used, then he won 5 conf. games in a row against some of the best in the A-10. It was there that I wanted to know just how he knew to do that. I became friends with RE and he was always open and told me about most coaches play just 18 to 20 minutes of a 40 minute game, but if you put your team in the game all 40 minutes, most teams are not prepared to play. In fact, RE knew, like KD's teams are not, most teams are not fit enough to run with you. RE also knew that he could recruit players that were fast, but over-looked for not being big and fit the slow half court game. You just tell me one of RE's starters that could not go 40 minutes? None, but KD tells you his kids are not fit enough. This is how RE won. This is why KD can not and will not win here. RE knew that the tallest team on the court in motion was the fastest team, but standing still, height mattered. RE really never had a starter taller than Damien at 6'7". But won more than KD will ever. Ron over recruited on the promise that kids would put up impressive offensive numbers. KD will never keep kids with his "burn the clock" 50 point games. Never. If you were a prolific scorer in HS, tell me why you would go with KD? But RE did just that. RE didn't try to out recruit Dayton, Hell, he wasn't even looking for those kids. DU can only consistently win with a coach like RE. That is a fact, and the exact reality of DU BB. Answer yourself. Why did RE win here after Nee's teams were the very bottom, and continue to win with little University support? Now we pay a million a year, with a vast assist coaching staff, a new court, with advanced training facilities, and absolutely no chance to ever win with KD? RE cost almost nothing, very little assist. staff and a very out-dated court? Totally agree with your theory on why RE won here when no one else could. Definitely much more difficult to get kids to come here to play in an old style slower half court game and score very little. KD really has to find just the right recruits who are willing to play and succeed in that style of play with a focus on defense vs. scoring. Not saying it can't be done but so far he has been less than successful in attempting to do so since year 3. I'll give it another year. Last edited by El Presidente (2/08/2022 8:55 pm) Offline The reason for the state of the program is not the kids. It is the failure of the coaching staff. That is all this message board has been discussing & that is the real story of DU basketball at present. Very well said. Very good insight. I can tell you, from a personal note, that after the shooting on campus that left RE with just 9 players, and to even have practice, an Assistant Coach had to be a player until Dudy came on the team as a "walk-on". that RE's team in non-conference sucked, but then RE told his 10 players at the start of conf. that every one would play in a system not often used, then he won 5 conf. games in a row against some of the best in the A-10. It was there that I wanted to know just how he knew to do that. I became friends with RE and he was always open and told me about most coaches play just 18 to 20 minutes of a 40 minute game, but if you put your team in the game all 40 minutes, most teams are not prepared to play. In fact, RE knew, like KD's teams are not, most teams are not fit enough to run with you. RE also knew that he could recruit players that were fast, but over-looked for not being big and fit the slow half court game. You just tell me one of RE's starters that could not go 40 minutes? None, but KD tells you his kids are not fit enough. This is how RE won. This is why KD can not and will not win here. RE knew that the tallest team on the court in motion was the fastest team, but standing still, height mattered. RE really never had a starter taller than Damien at 6'7". But won more than KD will ever. Ron over recruited on the promise that kids would put up impressive offensive numbers. KD will never keep kids with his "burn the clock" 50 point games. Never. If you were a prolific scorer in HS, tell me why you would go with KD? But RE did just that. RE didn't try to out recruit Dayton, Hell, he wasn't even looking for those kids. DU can only consistently win with a coach like RE. That is a fact, and the exact reality of DU BB. Answer yourself. Why did RE win here after Nee's teams were the very bottom, and continue to win with little University support? Now we pay a million a year, with a vast assist coaching staff, a new court, with advanced training facilities, and absolutely no chance to ever win with KD? RE cost almost nothing, very little assist. staff and a very out-dated court? Totally agree with your theory on why RE won here when no one else could. Definitely much more difficult to get kids to come here to play in an old style slower half court game and score very little. KD really has to find just the right recruits who are willing to play and succeed in that style of play with a focus on defense vs. scoring. Not saying it can't be done but so far he has been less that successful in attempting to do so since year 3. I'll give it another year. Absolutely agree. KD's style depends on out-recruiting for the top half court players in the country to win, which is very unlikely. RE's approach, at a DU level, will be, by far, more successful on a consistent level, and as a season ticket holder, it's way more interesting to see just how often our team scores 100 points, vs KD's mind numbing 48 points a game. KD's teams can't even walk the ball to half court without a 10 second violation because KD wants to slow the game down and play just 20 minutes out of 40 minutes. But his teams are not talented enough to win in at the end of the game. I just come out my skin with the argument that his teams loose by a close score? That's because his teams cannot score more than 50 point, though they play good defense. Really, and when his team is behind by 20 points, KD's team still chews up the clock? KD's teams are not even built to score rapidly. So when they are behind, there is little chance of outscoring their opponent to catch up. DU is not Duke, or Pitt, nor Dayton, but RE put a competitive team on the court consistently, KD will likely not on a consistent basis.
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CLK wrote:
phil95 wrote:
I began my post by writing that the article, "is a pretty fair & accurate assessment of the roster". Neither this writer nor any other could possibly do a "very good job of outlining where the program is at this point in time" without providing some insight into the quality of work done by the coaching staff. This article has plenty to say about what specific roster additions & player development changes will need to occur in order for next year's team to thrive but fails to address any of the clear-cut shortcomings of the coaching staff in any specific way.
Based on this observation, I can only conclude that Tristan either doesn't know/understand the coaching problems, (extremely unlikely), or he doesn't want to upset the apple cart by giving a more complete assessment of why the team is doing so poorly. That's just soft reporting.
There is no reason that a more thorough assessment of the state of affairs as concerns the DU men's basketball program would need to be a hatchet job on KD. Tristan demonstrated true knowledge of the subject matter & a strong sense of journalistic diplomacy in analyzing the strengths, needs, & weaknesses of the roster. He is certainly capable of doing the same for the coaching staff.
On a more personal note, I am ready for the local press to start calling for changes from either KD or the university's administration. Saturday's game was my breaking point. I believe that KD has been given ample opportunity to make things work here but is now finished as a Division I basketball coach. I would be delighted to be proven wrong. Until there is some inkling of that metamorphosis, I will continue to root very hard for the team while hoping that the coaching staff is discharged.
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Tristan is just a reporter trying to make a living. He covers the Dukes and a few other teams. He like othert reporters is smart enough to know:
1 Nothing is ever "clear cut" in his business. It is all a matter of perspective, and things can change
2 Don't bite the hand that feeds you. To do his job effectively he has to have access to, and trust of, the coaches of the teams he covers.
I wouldn't call that having "no balls" but him understanding his business. I would not hold my breath for the type of article you described any time soon. Maybe a post mortm article if DU does fire him this year but I doubt it will be this year. •Thread Starter
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phil95 wrote:
CLK wrote:
phil95 wrote:
I began my post by writing that the article, "is a pretty fair & accurate assessment of the roster". Neither this writer nor any other could possibly do a "very good job of outlining where the program is at this point in time" without providing some insight into the quality of work done by the coaching staff. This article has plenty to say about what specific roster additions & player development changes will need to occur in order for next year's team to thrive but fails to address any of the clear-cut shortcomings of the coaching staff in any specific way.
Based on this observation, I can only conclude that Tristan either doesn't know/understand the coaching problems, (extremely unlikely), or he doesn't want to upset the apple cart by giving a more complete assessment of why the team is doing so poorly. That's just soft reporting.
There is no reason that a more thorough assessment of the state of affairs as concerns the DU men's basketball program would need to be a hatchet job on KD. Tristan demonstrated true knowledge of the subject matter & a strong sense of journalistic diplomacy in analyzing the strengths, needs, & weaknesses of the roster. He is certainly capable of doing the same for the coaching staff.
On a more personal note, I am ready for the local press to start calling for changes from either KD or the university's administration. Saturday's game was my breaking point. I believe that KD has been given ample opportunity to make things work here but is now finished as a Division I basketball coach. I would be delighted to be proven wrong. Until there is some inkling of that metamorphosis, I will continue to root very hard for the team while hoping that the coaching staff is discharged.
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NapaDuke wrote:
phil95 wrote:
CLK wrote:
I began my post by writing that the article, "is a pretty fair & accurate assessment of the roster". Neither this writer nor any other could possibly do a "very good job of outlining where the program is at this point in time" without providing some insight into the quality of work done by the coaching staff. This article has plenty to say about what specific roster additions & player development changes will need to occur in order for next year's team to thrive but fails to address any of the clear-cut shortcomings of the coaching staff in any specific way.
Based on this observation, I can only conclude that Tristan either doesn't know/understand the coaching problems, (extremely unlikely), or he doesn't want to upset the apple cart by giving a more complete assessment of why the team is doing so poorly. That's just soft reporting.
There is no reason that a more thorough assessment of the state of affairs as concerns the DU men's basketball program would need to be a hatchet job on KD. Tristan demonstrated true knowledge of the subject matter & a strong sense of journalistic diplomacy in analyzing the strengths, needs, & weaknesses of the roster. He is certainly capable of doing the same for the coaching staff.
On a more personal note, I am ready for the local press to start calling for changes from either KD or the university's administration. Saturday's game was my breaking point. I believe that KD has been given ample opportunity to make things work here but is now finished as a Division I basketball coach. I would be delighted to be proven wrong. Until there is some inkling of that metamorphosis, I will continue to root very hard for the team while hoping that the coaching staff is discharged.
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El Presidente wrote:
NapaDuke wrote:
phil95 wrote:
I began my post by writing that the article, "is a pretty fair & accurate assessment of the roster". Neither this writer nor any other could possibly do a "very good job of outlining where the program is at this point in time" without providing some insight into the quality of work done by the coaching staff. This article has plenty to say about what specific roster additions & player development changes will need to occur in order for next year's team to thrive but fails to address any of the clear-cut shortcomings of the coaching staff in any specific way.
Based on this observation, I can only conclude that Tristan either doesn't know/understand the coaching problems, (extremely unlikely), or he doesn't want to upset the apple cart by giving a more complete assessment of why the team is doing so poorly. That's just soft reporting.
There is no reason that a more thorough assessment of the state of affairs as concerns the DU men's basketball program would need to be a hatchet job on KD. Tristan demonstrated true knowledge of the subject matter & a strong sense of journalistic diplomacy in analyzing the strengths, needs, & weaknesses of the roster. He is certainly capable of doing the same for the coaching staff.
On a more personal note, I am ready for the local press to start calling for changes from either KD or the university's administration. Saturday's game was my breaking point. I believe that KD has been given ample opportunity to make things work here but is now finished as a Division I basketball coach. I would be delighted to be proven wrong. Until there is some inkling of that metamorphosis, I will continue to root very hard for the team while hoping that the coaching staff is discharged.