Is that because 2 games were cancelled?
I know HIma didn't score much yesterday but he made a difference on defence and was strong on some rebounds.  The zone also looked successful at times when they used it.

 

Last edited by FAM (3/06/2022 3:31 pm)

FAM wrote:

Is that because 2 games were cancelled?
I know HIma didn't score much yesterday but he made a difference on defemce and was strong on some rebounds.  The zone also looked successful at times when they used it.

 

Actually FAM I felt just the opposite on Hima’s game yesterday.  I thought he had little impact; especially since he allowed numerous  layups from smaller guards while he was playing.  Several times I expected him to put those attempted layups into Row 6; but nothing; just a layup and score.  In general he seemed hesitant to help and move into a shot blocking position.  By the time he got to the man it was too late.  By contrast in the first half he went too far out of the paint to help on a guy who was tryouts no to back somebody in; and ended up seeing his s man waltz in for a dunk! 
As for the zone it was a desperation move, since the M-to-M was just getting torched.  The change up got them I think 2-3 stops until LaSalle had a guy flash into the foul line and reverse the ball through the middle for wide-open 3’s.  They carved up the zone after that point.  So, I agree with the Change-up to give them a new look; but not a long-term answer.  Guys just need to learn the “man” concepts which they still don’t seem to understand.  Defensive rotations are still awful; especially by a few guys.  Easley made some good rotations yesterday and was rewarded with a steal.  IDK if some guys will ever get it!

Last edited by levon1975 (3/06/2022 3:47 pm)

levon1975 wrote:

FAM wrote:

Is that because 2 games were cancelled?
I know HIma didn't score much yesterday but he made a difference on defemce and was strong on some rebounds.  The zone also looked successful at times when they used it.

 

Actually FAM I felt just the opposite on Hima’s game yesterday. I thought he had little impact; especially since he allowed numerous layups from smaller guards while he was playing. Several times I expected him to put those attempted layups into Row 6; but nothing; just a layup and score. In general he seemed hesitant to help and move into a shot blocking position. By the time he got to the man it was too late. By contrast in the first half he went too far out of the paint to help on a guy who was tryouts no to back somebody in; and ended up seeing his s man waltz in for a dunk!
As for the zone it was a desperation move, since the M-to-M was just getting torched. The change up got them I think 2-3 stops until LaSalle had a guy flash into the foul line and reverse the ball through the middle for wide-open 3’s. They carved up the zone after that point. So, I agree with the Change-up to give them a new look; but not a long-term answer. Guys just need to learn the “man” concepts which they still don’t seem to understand. Defensive rotations are still awful; especially by a few guys. Easley made some good rotations yesterday and was rewarded with a steal. IDK if some guys will ever get it!

 LaSalle shot the lights out on the perimeter and ended the game early on transition points, that's not Hima's fault.    He sat on the bench half the game and things didn't run much different. KD just can't stop telling everyone Hima's only been in the game for 4 years, so with this season shot, why not play him. He is going to make mistakes but when he does make a play it's because of his superior height and he can only get experience playing. So play him.  Just a compairison,  Hima had 5 rebounds in 19 minute and 2 blocks, and Easlry had 6 in 30 minutes and 1 block. Size matters.. 

Last edited by NapaDuke (3/06/2022 7:26 pm)

NapaDuke wrote:

levon1975 wrote:

FAM wrote:

Is that because 2 games were cancelled?
I know HIma didn't score much yesterday but he made a difference on defemce and was strong on some rebounds.  The zone also looked successful at times when they used it.

 

Actually FAM I felt just the opposite on Hima’s game yesterday. I thought he had little impact; especially since he allowed numerous layups from smaller guards while he was playing. Several times I expected him to put those attempted layups into Row 6; but nothing; just a layup and score. In general he seemed hesitant to help and move into a shot blocking position. By the time he got to the man it was too late. By contrast in the first half he went too far out of the paint to help on a guy who was tryouts no to back somebody in; and ended up seeing his s man waltz in for a dunk!
As for the zone it was a desperation move, since the M-to-M was just getting torched. The change up got them I think 2-3 stops until LaSalle had a guy flash into the foul line and reverse the ball through the middle for wide-open 3’s. They carved up the zone after that point. So, I agree with the Change-up to give them a new look; but not a long-term answer. Guys just need to learn the “man” concepts which they still don’t seem to understand. Defensive rotations are still awful; especially by a few guys. Easley made some good rotations yesterday and was rewarded with a steal. IDK if some guys will ever get it!

 LaSalle shot the lights out on the perimeter and ended the game early on transition points, that's not Hima's fault.    He sat on the bench half the game and things didn't run much different. KD just can't stop telling everyone Hima's only been in the game for 4 years, so with this season shot, why not play him. He is going to make mistakes but when he does make a play it's because of his superior height and he can only get experience playing. So play him.  Just a compairison,  Hima had 5 rebounds in 19 minute and 2 blocks, and Easlry had 6 in 30 minutes and 1 block. Size matters.. 

I disagree, I was at the game, and watched LaSalle score regularly on layups while Hima was in the game, and these were often scored by small guards getting to the hoop.  Our guards were obviously beaten initially or picked to create the opening but as I said, I expected Hima to block several of those layups because he should have helped and could easily have made the blocks; so to reiterate it was NOT a good game for HIMA!  I'm not saying that he shouldn't get playing time, but from what I have seen from his performances his PT is about right.  Easley is  obviously playing out of position, but is a far more advanced player than Hima at this point, and I don't think anyone could argue that point.  I know you are a big Hima fan, but he isn't ready to assume more responsibility.  He is at best a spot player.  If he shows improvement in his 20 minutes per game, then he will likely play more.  Keep in mind this team has such a dearth of players that seem to understand the defensive end of the court  that having Hima learn on the job just makes it difficult on everyone.  

The fans in R.I. are not happy with their coach either!!  They were used to winning.  Here's hoping the players mentally don't show up when they play Duquesne...and if we show up we have a chance.

Anyone know what time the Duquesne-Richmond game tips off on Thursday?

NapaDuke wrote:

levon1975 wrote:

NapaDuke wrote:

 LaSalle shot the lights out on the perimeter and ended the game early on transition points, that's not Hima's fault.    He sat on the bench half the game and things didn't run much different. KD just can't stop telling everyone Hima's only been in the game for 4 years, so with this season shot, why not play him. He is going to make mistakes but when he does make a play it's because of his superior height and he can only get experience playing. So play him.  Just a compairison,  Hima had 5 rebounds in 19 minute and 2 blocks, and Easlry had 6 in 30 minutes and 1 block. Size matters.. 

I disagree, I was at the game, and watched LaSalle score regularly on layups while Hima was in the game, and these were often scored by small guards getting to the hoop.  Our guards were obviously beaten initially or picked to create the opening but as I said, I expected Hima to block several of those layups because he should have helped and could easily have made the blocks; so to reiterate it was NOT a good game for HIMA!  I'm not saying that he shouldn't get playing time, but from what I have seen from his performances his PT is about right.  Easley is  obviously playing out of position, but is a far more advanced player than Hima at this point, and I don't think anyone could argue that point.  I know you are a big Hima fan, but he isn't ready to assume more responsibility.  He is at best a spot player.  If he shows improvement in his 20 minutes per game, then he will likely play more.  Keep in mind this team has such a dearth of players that seem to understand the defensive end of the court  that having Hima learn on the job just makes it difficult on everyone.  

Your right, he could have done more, but with this season more that over, play him 30 plus minutes is next game is  valuable experience for him to develop.  With or without him, this team isn't winning. I disagree that Hima is a spot player on such a short team.  Against Davidson he pulled down 10 rebounds and shot over their 6'10" center. That shows potential.  We got beat all over the court this game and everyone on the court except Hima has played this game since they were in  grade-school.  What he brings to the game can't be taught, but his inexperience can only be overcome by experience.  

Styles make the match!  Some teams play faster than Davidson, and their bigs may be a  bit quicker.  I'm not being critical of Hima; I like having a 6'10" guy on the floor whenever it makes sense; but he has a lot to learn, and it will depend a lot on how much he can process in a short time.  He has to get to the point where things happen instinctively for him.  I mean guys that have played basketball since they were walking have trouble processing defense at this level. It's not easy and things happen fast.  If he gets into a game and is playing well; I'm sure the coaches will let him go longer than 20 minutes. He is learning, so sometimes as a coach you teach by playing him for short periods, and then discussing what went right and wrong, while its still fresh in his mind.  He should be watching a lot of film as well; especially of guys who know how to play his position.  Perhaps some St Bonnie film with Osunnyi would help!  

Last edited by levon1975 (3/07/2022 3:00 pm)

Dambrot had many opportunities to use Hima more than he did. He only started to play him more when Williams went down, just out of necessity. One of the many reasons why I am not a Dambrot fan. We have Dambrot for at least another year, so I really have not been watching the team that closely. But it only makes sense when going thru a season like this, you do everything you can to build a future. But yet, Dambrot doesn’t see it that way, by evidence of how he is using and  not improving Hima. I have been Dambrots first and biggest critic on this board. But as long as he is here, I will be watching very little and hoping for the best, which I do not think will be much. The fans in the stands and on this board seem like they are losing interest as well. That postgame interview that CLK posted was horrendous in many ways. Especially when he said he competed for championships. In five years here he was nowhere near competing for a championship. The reality is we secured last place by a whopping 4 games in Year 5. Year 6 looks not even a bit more promising than this year.

Last edited by Wildwood13 (3/07/2022 3:32 pm)

levon1975 wrote:

NapaDuke wrote:

levon1975 wrote:

I disagree, I was at the game, and watched LaSalle score regularly on layups while Hima was in the game, and these were often scored by small guards getting to the hoop.  Our guards were obviously beaten initially or picked to create the opening but as I said, I expected Hima to block several of those layups because he should have helped and could easily have made the blocks; so to reiterate it was NOT a good game for HIMA!  I'm not saying that he shouldn't get playing time, but from what I have seen from his performances his PT is about right.  Easley is  obviously playing out of position, but is a far more advanced player than Hima at this point, and I don't think anyone could argue that point.  I know you are a big Hima fan, but he isn't ready to assume more responsibility.  He is at best a spot player.  If he shows improvement in his 20 minutes per game, then he will likely play more.  Keep in mind this team has such a dearth of players that seem to understand the defensive end of the court  that having Hima learn on the job just makes it difficult on everyone.  

Your right, he could have done more, but with this season more that over, play him 30 plus minutes is next game is  valuable experience for him to develop.  With or without him, this team isn't winning. I disagree that Hima is a spot player on such a short team.  Against Davidson he pulled down 10 rebounds and shot over their 6'10" center. That shows potential.  We got beat all over the court this game and everyone on the court except Hima has played this game since they were in  grade-school.  What he brings to the game can't be taught, but his inexperience can only be overcome by experience.  

Styles make the match!  Some teams play faster than Davidson, and their bigs may be a  bit quicker.  I'm not being critical of Hima; I like having a 6'10" guy on the floor whenever it makes sense; but he has a lot to learn, and it will depend a lot on how much he can process in a short time.  He has to get to the point where things happen instinctively for him.  I mean guys that have played basketball since they were walking have trouble processing defense at this level. It's not easy and things happen fast.  If he gets into a game and is playing well; I'm sure the coaches will let him go longer than 20 minutes. He is learning, so sometimes as a coach you teach by playing him for short periods, and then discussing what went right and wrong, while its still fresh in his mind.  He should be watching a lot of film as well; especially of guys who know how to play his position.  Perhaps some St Bonnie film with Osunnyi would help!  

Film helps a lot. Great point. He can learn on the court but short of that. game film can help too.

1. Hima is not in his 3rd or 4th year of organized basketball. That is a complete fabrication that KD knowingly spreads. This at least year 6 for him but most likely year 7 & possibly year 8. His last 2 seasons in high school he played for an outstanding program with a reputation for excellent coaching & a history of sending international big men to Div. I schools. Before that he was at another NJ high school with a pretty good reputation for basketball. He also played two summers for top level AAU teams. He has an older brother that also plays division I basketball. He had serious recruiting interest from the best A-10 schools & better.

I list these facts because I am tired of announcers & KD acting like Hima was recently plucked out of obscurity from the wilds of Niger, is brand new to the game, & coach intentionally brought him along slowly because he is such a project. 

That is not the case. KD simply failed to play him early in the the year. It cost the team this year while putting the player's development behind for subsequent years. Anybody that has watched Hima play over the last 3 weeks can see that he is improving at a fine pace & needs as many minutes as he can get on this train wreck of a team.

2. Hima as a freshman/sophomore as compared to Nicholson is apples to oranges. As a freshman Nicholson played every game, averaged 12.5 points, 6 rebounds, & 2.7 blocks while playing 25 minutes & shooting better than 60% from the field. Posters may recall he was awesome against the Dukes both times they played that year. (18-8-3 shooting .875 in game 1 & 29-12-6 shooting .722 in game 2) He was A-10 Rookie of the Week 6 times, was A-10 Rookie of the Year, & made some freshman All-American teams.

Sorry Napa, Nicholson looked nothing like Hima early on. Aside from the obvious differences in results, Nicholson was/is shorter, less athletic, not as long, & had a goodly amount more bulk as a 19-year-old freshman than Hima has as a nearly 21-year-old redshirt freshman.

I am a lifelong Bonnie fan & Olean native. Even so, I always root for the Dukes when they play the Bonnies. I recall being very disappointed when Nicholson committed to SBU over Duquesne. That disappointment turned to deep frustration while Nicholson destroyed the Dukes for 4 years. 

3. MOUNIR, PLEASE STAY!!!!!!

Last edited by phil95 (3/07/2022 7:56 pm)

phil95 wrote:

1. Hima is not in his 3rd or 4th year of organized basketball. That is a complete fabrication that KD knowingly spreads. This at least year 6 for him but most likely year 7 & possibly year 8. His last 2 seasons in high school he played for an outstanding program with a reputation for excellent coaching & a history of sending international big men to Div. I schools. Before that he was at another NJ high school with a pretty good reputation for basketball. He also played two summers for top level AAU teams. He has an older brother that also plays division I basketball. He had serious recruiting interest from the best A-10 schools & better.

I list these facts because I am tired of announcers & KD acting like Hima was recently plucked out of obscurity from the wilds of Niger, is brand new to the game, & coach intentionally brought him along slowly because he is such a project. 

That is not the case. KD simply failed to play him early in the the year. It cost the team this year while putting the player's development behind for subsequent years. Anybody that has watched Hima play over the last 3 weeks can see that he is improving at a fine pace & needs as many minutes as he can get on this train wreck of a team.

2. Hima as a freshman/sophomore as compared to Nicholson is apples to oranges. As a freshman Nicholson played every game, averaged 12.5 points, 6 rebounds, & 2.7 blocks while playing 25 minutes & shooting better than 60% from the field. Posters may recall he was awesome against the Dukes both times they played that year. (18-8-3 shooting .875 in game 1 & 29-12-6 shooting .722 in game 2) He was A-10 Rookie of the Week 6 times, was A-10 Rookie of the Year, & made some freshman All-American teams.

Sorry Napa, Nicholson looked nothing like Hima early on. Aside from the obvious differences in results, Nicholson was/is shorter, less athletic, not as long, & had a goodly amount more bulk as a 19-year-old freshman than Hima has as a nearly 21-year-old redshirt freshman.

I am a lifelong Bonnie fan & Olean native. Even so, I always root for the Dukes when they play the Bonnies. I recall being very disappointed when Nicholson committed to SBU over Duquesne. That disappointment turned to deep frustration while Nicholson destroyed the Dukes for 4 years. 

3. MOUNIR, PLEASE STAY!!!!!!

Thanks for that input. My recall of watching  Nicholson  all four years here at DU of course, is vague now, but I seem to remember him as slim built, not a Rotrouff size guy. And he might have seemed taller to me because he was mostly matched up to Damien. But good info, Thanks,

Phil95, who is Mounir's brother?