CityDuke wrote:

That scuffle doesn’t happen if they call the 1) jumpball 2) travel on Quisenberry or 3) the hook on Quisenberry.

Not surprising that they missed all three, I don’t know why I always have such high hopes for the officiating for a decently called game. This now makes it 13 free throws to 2. Surprise, surprise…

Or, Gunn, the fifth year senior; got beat on defense, definitely fouled the player more than once, & lost his composure leading to a justifiable technical & lots of FTs that launched a downward spiral. 

Optimism & team spirit are cool. Regularly blaming officiating for the outcome of games is a mark of juvenile fandom. Gunn made played poor defense, made a small mistake, & followed it up with what turned into a colossal mistake.

 

phil95 wrote:

CityDuke wrote:

That scuffle doesn’t happen if they call the 1) jumpball 2) travel on Quisenberry or 3) the hook on Quisenberry.

Not surprising that they missed all three, I don’t know why I always have such high hopes for the officiating for a decently called game. This now makes it 13 free throws to 2. Surprise, surprise…

Or, Gunn, the fifth year senior; got beat on defense, definitely fouled the player more than once, & lost his composure leading to a justifiable technical & lots of FTs that launched a downward spiral. 

Optimism & team spirit are cool. Regularly blaming officiating for the outcome of games is a mark of juvenile fandom. Gunn made played poor defense, made a small mistake, & followed it up with what turned into a colossal mistake.

 

Phil, are you watching the game?

Well, that 2 minute stretch ends an hope i had for today.  My goodness.   From 11 to 20 PDQ.

Last edited by townsonkid (3/04/2023 3:29 pm)

This really sucks.

We can say the game was more than the officials, but I will say this…basketball is a very momentum-based game.  Momentum is extremely fragile. We were all over Fordham early in the game. When it was basketball. Playing very well. They were out of sorts. They found some footing and then their footing was reinforced with a 7 point possession from the officiating. The tides turned dramatically. We beat them in the tourney, mark it.

I appreciate your optimism, City, regarding a 3rd meeting, but honestly, what are you seeing that suggests we can handle them in a 3rd try on a neutral court?  Heck, right now I am worried w'll be one and done after this beatdown.

Tony84 wrote:

I appreciate your optimism, City, regarding a 3rd meeting, but honestly, what are you seeing that suggests we can handle them in a 3rd try on a neutral court?  Heck, right now I am worried w'll be one and done after this beatdown.

The first 37 minutes of the first matchup and the first 13 of this one. Wish we didn’t crumble today, but I really have a hard time blaming them this time. We have been ridiculously resilient all year in these situations, but a 7 point possession and a 14 to 2 free throw discrepancy was the straw that broke the camels back. Emotions are amplified in meaningful games as well. Was just too much for us today. I would LOVE to see them again.

Last edited by CityDuke (3/04/2023 4:05 pm)

townsonkid wrote:

Dayton or Fordham in 2nd game if we win game 1(big if), pick your poison.

I know you said big if.   They will not win.  The high water mark of the season was already achieved with the victory tour over 20 wins.

I’m disappointed to see how bad the Dukes played against Fordham for the second time – especially when so much was on the line.  RJ along with others - flunked the test today.  Certainly, I hope they can stay alive in the tournament; however, I just don’t see it happening against the ‘hungry competition’ we’ll surely be facing.  In any event – Go Dukes!

On the other hand, you have to admit Fordham is a Cinderella team to say the least – and exciting to watch and hungry to win.    I’ll be rooting for them to go all the way, once Dukes are eliminated!

Dukes light years away from being a top 5 team.The Dambrot experiment is over and bring Joyce in and maybe he can recruit better players

stew wrote:

Dukes light years away from being a top 5 team.The Dambrot experiment is over and bring Joyce in and maybe he can recruit better players

This was a nice cherry on top to your last post. Light years…we were one win away haha.

phil95 wrote:

CityDuke wrote:

That scuffle doesn’t happen if they call the 1) jumpball 2) travel on Quisenberry or 3) the hook on Quisenberry.

Not surprising that they missed all three, I don’t know why I always have such high hopes for the officiating for a decently called game. This now makes it 13 free throws to 2. Surprise, surprise…

Or, Gunn, the fifth year senior; got beat on defense, definitely fouled the player more than once, & lost his composure leading to a justifiable technical & lots of FTs that launched a downward spiral. 

Optimism & team spirit are cool. Regularly blaming officiating for the outcome of games is a mark of juvenile fandom. Gunn made played poor defense, made a small mistake, & followed it up with what turned into a colossal mistake.

 

That push lead not only to a technical, but a  fast 7 pts. for Fordham, and even worse, it both, took the Dukes out of their game and also, fired up the Fordham players, the fans, and their coaches at the same time. Our coaches, on the other hand did little to calm down the team, and no real adjustments to the game plan that would work in the second half. In fact the Dukes really came apart in the second half. Before that technical, we out rebound them and were out scoring them. From that moment on, little if nothing worked?