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12/07/2023 3:10 pm  #1


Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

7:00pm EST tip on Friday 12/8/2023 at the UPMC Cooper Fieldhouse, Pittsburgh, PA

Betting line: Dukes are 14 point favorites; Over/Under 129
Duquesne 4-4 Against the Spread: Saint Peter's 4-3 ATS

NET Ranking:  Dukes 74; Saint Peter's 168

Per KenPom (362 D-1 Teams):
Dukes #83 (6-2) vs Saint Peter's #246 (3-4)
Game prediction: Dukes win by 12, 71-59 - Dukes with 87% probability of a win.
https://kenpom.com/gameprep.php?g=1583 
Per Haslametrics:
Dukes #100 vs Saint Peter's #241
Game prediction:  Dukes win by 12, 71.68-59.91
https://haslametrics.com/preview.php?yr=&tid1=5247&tid2=4391&neut=0
Per BartTorvik:
Dukes #58 vs Saint Peter's #265
Game prediction:  Dukes win by 16, 74-58 - Dukes with a 94% probability of a win.
https://barttorvik.com/team.php?team=Duquesne&year=2024 
Duquesne Preview: https://goduquesne.com/news/2023/12/7/mens-basketball-dukes-look-for-third-straight-win-friday.aspx Duquesne Game Notes: https://goduquesne.com/documents/2023/12/7/09_Saint_Peter_s.pdf Saint Peter's Game Notes:  
Sports Reference College Basketball Team Pages:
Duquesne:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/duquesne/men/2024.html Saint Peter's: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/saint-peters/men/2024.html 
Dukes KenPom Best Wins: UC Irvine (76); College of Charleston (131); Cleveland St. (183)   
Dukes KenPom Worst Losses: Nebraska (66); Princeton (51) 
Saint Peter's KenPom Best Wins: Canisiss (195); Niagara (328) 
Saint Peter's KenPom Worst Losses: Fairleigh Dickinson (318); UMass Lowell (125); Rutgers (78)

Shooting Percentage Offense/Defense (per KenPom)
Dukes 3 Point:  Offense 36.5%, 64 in D-1; Defense 33.1%, 189 in D-1
Saint Peter's 3 Point:  Offense 29.5%, 291 in D-1; Defense 34.5%, 238 in D-1
Dukes 2 Point:  Offense 51.9%, 129 in D-1; Defense 44.9%, 43 in D-1
Saint Peter's 2 Point:  Offense 44.1%, 328 in D-1; Defense 45.1%, 50 in D-1
Dukes FT:  Offense 71.4%, 168 in D-1; Defense 71.7%, 212 in D-1
Saint Peter's FT:  Offense 74.8%, 68 in D-1; Defense 69.7%, 141 in D-1

Points per Possession and Number of Possessions (per KenPom)
Saint Peter's Adj Offense Efficiency - 96.5; 322 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Defense Efficiency - 102.5; 128 in D-1
Saint Peter's Adj Defense Efficiency - 102.1; 120 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Offense Efficiency - 111.6; 62 in D-1
Saint Peter's Adj Tempo - 63.3; 357 in D-1 vs Dukes Adj Tempo - 68.5; 209 in D-1

Miscellaneous (per KenPom)
Experience - Saint Peter's 0.92 yrs; 327 in D-1; Dukes 2.74 yrs; 28 in D-1
Average Height - Saint Peter's 77.3"; 152 in D-1; Dukes 76.1"; 328 in D-1

 

12/07/2023 5:42 pm  #2


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

We need to turn this into a track meet and run them out of the building. Everyone who is healthy should get plenty of time.

 

12/07/2023 6:12 pm  #3


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

luckymcd wrote:

We need to turn this into a track meet and run them out of the building. Everyone who is healthy should get plenty of time.

I'm with you on that. KD now knows who can do what at this point, but I would like to see this DU team really push the action and get deep off the bench. It makes future opposing teams a bit confused as to how to plan against a team that in either half-court or on the run fast-pace are hard to stop. Let's hit 100.
 

Last edited by NapaDuke (12/07/2023 6:13 pm)

 

12/07/2023 6:48 pm  #4


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

Last matchup against St. Peter’s was the 1980 NIT at the Civic Arena. They won 33-32.

 

12/07/2023 6:59 pm  #5


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

BluffHunter wrote:

Last matchup against St. Peter’s was the 1980 NIT at the Civic Arena. They won 33-32.

Is that score for real?  Not that I'd like to see that game, but wasn't there a shot clock at that time? Maybe not.

 

12/07/2023 9:15 pm  #6


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

Funny, the O:/U is 129. Two of the top 6 scoring games by the Dukes have been against Saint Peter’s - scored 127 and 119 against the Peacocks in the 70’s.

     Thread Starter
 

12/07/2023 9:51 pm  #7


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

NapaDuke wrote:

BluffHunter wrote:

Last matchup against St. Peter’s was the 1980 NIT at the Civic Arena. They won 33-32.

Is that score for real?  Not that I'd like to see that game, but wasn't there a shot clock at that time? Maybe not.

That was before the shot clock -  at times Teams might play a Whole Half or so with the "Four Corners Offense"  MIght be interesting to see if Drambot lets the Twins start the game.  DU will have too many departing players to let all "The Seniors" start the final home game (even if a lot have only been here one year)   Fouseenyi IS the leading rebounder on the team. And with all the shuffling going on does it matter if 3 or 4 of their 15-20 minutes are at the start of the game?

 

12/08/2023 9:21 am  #8


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

BluffHunter wrote:

Last matchup against St. Peter’s was the 1980 NIT at the Civic Arena. They won 33-32.

I was actually at that game. It was torture.  St Peters played a slow down game by holding on to the ball. They did it all year.

For some inexplicable reason, Mike Rice tried to match them at their own game.  So we slowed it down as well.

 

12/08/2023 9:59 am  #9


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

I dont care how, just win baby.   Lets get DGrant knocking 3s and let Dixon eat.   He's starting to come along, hopefully he keeps it up.   A big man force in the A10 would be fantastic.

 

12/08/2023 10:07 am  #10


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

townsonkid wrote:

I dont care how, just win baby.   Lets get DGrant knocking 3s and let Dixon eat.   He's starting to come along, hopefully he keeps it up.   A big man force in the A10 would be fantastic.

I think Dixon gets better with every game. He's a big plus this year.

 

12/08/2023 1:04 pm  #11


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

I'm glad St. Peter's is coming in with 3 wins. Those 2 win teams are hard to beat. Hope team is up and not glancing ahead.

 

12/08/2023 3:40 pm  #12


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

NapaDuke wrote:

townsonkid wrote:

I dont care how, just win baby.   Lets get DGrant knocking 3s and let Dixon eat.   He's starting to come along, hopefully he keeps it up.   A big man force in the A10 would be fantastic.

I think Dixon gets better with every game. He's a big plus this year.

I so agree. Last game against Marshall the bigs could not finish down on the blocks. Can you imagine when Dusan & Williams get back. Chabi awesome  shot blocker. Dixon just keeps getting better. This Dukes squad is special.

 

12/08/2023 4:09 pm  #13


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

So this prediction goes exactly against what I said I'd like to see earlier in the thread. I haven't actually seen St. Peter's at all this year, but looking at the numbers I'm seeing we could be in for a similar game as the NIT game someone else mentioned. Obviously with a shot clock, it won't be quite that bad, but it appears they will slow down just about anyone they play. So while I'd still like to see us running any chance we get and trying to force them into speeding up, I don't know if we'll be able to do it. I still see a comfortable win, but not as wide a margin as I'd like. All the regulars should get plenty of time, but I don't know that we'll get the walkons in. I'll say Dukes 71 Peacocks 60.

Last edited by luckymcd (12/08/2023 4:11 pm)

 

12/08/2023 5:52 pm  #14


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

Last I had heard Mahorcic was tracking to be back in December, has there been any other update on him?

 

12/08/2023 7:46 pm  #15


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

Not handling the press very well. I think Clark Got away with a couple of muggings,
.

 

12/08/2023 11:00 pm  #16


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

I spoke with Tre Williams after the game and he told me he'll be back for the Bradley game in Akron.

 

12/09/2023 9:06 am  #17


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12/09/2023 9:13 am  #18


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

VBC wrote:

I spoke with Tre Williams after the game and he told me he'll be back for the Bradley game in Akron.

Great news!

 

12/09/2023 10:51 am  #19


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

Dambrot says Mahorcic should debut the game against Cleary.

 

12/09/2023 3:13 pm  #20


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

The Dukes win and their KenPom rating drops from 83 to 84...

 

12/09/2023 3:25 pm  #21


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

Watching Belle Vernon win state title in football, they play the Dukes fight song.

 

12/09/2023 5:00 pm  #22


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

townsonkid wrote:

Watching Belle Vernon win state title in football, they play the Dukes fight song.

A curious choice since best I can tell they are the Leopards and wear green and gold. It could get especially confusing if they ever play Duquesne. I’m not too familiar with the WPIAL, so I don’t know if they do.

 

12/09/2023 5:46 pm  #23


Re: Game Thread - Saint Peter's University Peacocks

luckymcd wrote:

townsonkid wrote:

Watching Belle Vernon win state title in football, they play the Dukes fight song.

A curious choice since best I can tell they are the Leopards and wear green and gold. It could get especially confusing if they ever play Duquesne. I’m not too familiar with the WPIAL, so I don’t know if they do.

When the school district was formed in the 60s through the merger of Belmar and Rostraver school districts the 2 groups fought over everything.  The battle over which fight song to use was particularly bitter for some reason.  It was resolved by newly hired band director Duquesne alum Ed Guglielmi who refused to use either of the old songs and instead instituted the Duquesne fight song for the newly formed Belle Vernon Area school district.  

The bickering continues to this day as the official school colors are gold and white as mentioned in the school alma mater.  Many people are upset that the secondary trim color of green is used to the extent that it is. 
 

 

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