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2/15/2025 10:25 pm  #26


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

There were many reasons we should not have won this game. But we still had a shot. And all I will say is a college basketball player needs to know the situation in the final minute. They need to know the score. Cam tied the game and had no idea. The coaching staff was screaming for him to get back and he was too locked in on guarding the inbound then fouling. A shame.

 

2/15/2025 11:53 pm  #27


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

I feel for Cam - hopefully he’s able to turn the page.  The last minute of that game was great theater. Trey is a baller man. It was his defense that caused the Dayton player to step out of bounds.  His 3 pointer to cut it to two was clutch. His defense that caused the final turnover. And the final play?  Most times nobody is even able to get a shot that clean with that little time left but he did and damn if it didn’t almost fall.  I was really impressed with the fight in this team. They do not quit. Dayton is not an easy place to play and the Dukes played their hearts out and almost won. 

Necas can’t turn the ball over in that spot late.  He just can’t. The crafty, experienced, Key could see Necas was not protecting the ball and he pounced. That was a great play by him but Necas has to be stronger on the ball.  Necas played hard all day and contributed greatly but that error was almost as big as Cam’s. There’s really nothing to say about Cam’s mistake.  I can’t expect the coach’s to be reminding the players “if we get a steal and a basket it will be tied so don’t foul”.   You have to think it was assumed understood. Cam made a nice play to trap the Dayton player and then score the tying basket. The place was going crazy - he’s probably never been in that type of environment before - and he made a mistake. I’d love to know what he thought though. Did he think his basket only cut it to one?  There was a timeout before the inbounds. You’d think he’d have had to look at the score.

 

2/16/2025 8:04 am  #28


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

Team that should be on the floor for the last 8 minutes of any game should be a combination of Dinkins, Edwards, Necas, Hronsky, Dixon, Crawford, Rozier, Wilborn. Whomever is playing best. Corbett with his gestures, bad decisions, poor shooting, and turnovers cannot be there down the stretch. I give him credit because he gives everything he has, but he is not consistent at anything. At the A10 level, he is a 10-15 minute guy. We still need a guard that can get to the basket and a big that gives us double digit scoring. Coaching is there. Effort is there. We need to be smarter.

 

2/16/2025 9:39 am  #29


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

BluffHunter wrote:

Just got back to Pittsburgh. 8 hours of driving in a day for a 1 point loss. Ugh.

I know the feeling, BluffHunter. Did that same thing about 15 years ago when the Dukes had a chance to win it in regulation when the Dukes down 1 point went to the line with 3 seconds left to shoot 3 FT’s. Made the first, missed the next two; game goes to OT and Dayton wins by 6. Long ride home in grey, dismal weather.

Good for you to make the trip; Dayton Arena has always been one of the basketball meccas for me.

 

2/16/2025 10:01 am  #30


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

Styles1229, I think that Cam simply lost his mind and got caught up in the moment. During that timeout, I guarantee that being down 2 points the coaching staff was forcefully telling the team that they needed to foul if Dayton broke the trap on the inbounds. They didn’t and Cam made the layup to tie and Cam fouled. I feel very sorry for him.

 

2/16/2025 10:11 am  #31


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

What is Anthony Grant whining about?  At the end of the game, it sure looked like some words were exchanged with Dru.

https://x.com/a10talk/status/1890895441060925948

 

2/16/2025 10:43 am  #32


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

I don’t know specifically what he’s complaining about, but the officiating was awful. It certainly didn’t cost us the game (in fact it probably favored us if anything), but it was terrible. Just as Cam should know the score late, Grant should know the situation(and even moreso since he’s a coach). I credit him for quoting the Bible while representing a Catholic institution, but there’s a time and a place for complaining; and immediately after winning a tightly contested game is not it.

The unfortunate fact of the matter is the regular season is meaningless for us again. At this point it’s all about preparing for the tournament. So I’ll echo Napa and say this was a good game for us. Whether their record shows it or not Dayton is one of the best teams in the conference. We proved we could beat them even if we didn’t actually do it. It didn’t take a perfect game either. The shooting might have been on (at least early), but this was far from our A game.

 

2/16/2025 10:54 am  #33


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

PhoenixRising2 wrote:

What is Anthony Grant whining about?  At the end of the game, it sure looked like some words were exchanged with Dru.

https://x.com/a10talk/status/1890895441060925948

I don’t know what he was so angry about. Dayton fans can’t decide whether it was about the steal on the inbound to tie it up or Dinkins “push-off” on the final shot. Grant definitely looked to have something to say to Dru. After thinking about it my thoughts are that Grant was on a B line to the officials after the buzzer enraged and Joyce just got in the crossfire trying to shake his hand like coaches are supposed to after the game or something along those lines.

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2/16/2025 12:30 pm  #34


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

Lived in Dayton for a couple of years.  Their fans, who are very vocal, are screaming at the refs that the visiting team is traveling as they come out of the locker room at the beginning of the game.  And the refs call it that way on all visiting teams.  While their fans show up and support their team rabidly, they have no justification in assessing the calls,  Dayton is the definition of getting "homered" by visiting teams.  They whin about EVERYTHING, and I do mean EVERYTHING!  And the refs call it that way accordingly.  Just compare free throws.

 

2/16/2025 3:03 pm  #35


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

luckymcd wrote:

I don’t know specifically what he’s complaining about, but the officiating was awful. It certainly didn’t cost us the game (in fact it probably favored us if anything), but it was terrible. Just as Cam should know the score late, Grant should know the situation(and even moreso since he’s a coach). I credit him for quoting the Bible while representing a Catholic institution, but there’s a time and a place for complaining; and immediately after winning a tightly contested game is not it.

The unfortunate fact of the matter is the regular season is meaningless for us again. At this point it’s all about preparing for the tournament. So I’ll echo Napa and say this was a good game for us. Whether their record shows it or not Dayton is one of the best teams in the conference. We proved we could beat them even if we didn’t actually do it. It didn’t take a perfect game either. The shooting might have been on (at least early), but this was far from our A game.

His actions after this game is so much motivation for the Dukes when we meet this team on a neutral court in DC. I can make this a bit more clear. In Ohio, the Joyce name is basketball. This  coach just disrespected not just any coach but the coaching family of Ohio?  I would not be supprised that Lebron might be court side at the tourney to see DJ run over this team. Dru didn't get to DU to be a loser. We will win the A-10 this year because of Dru.  That's my take on this season. He recruited the best, and he took his time mixing the best, but at crunch time, he will be the master chest man. Coaching and recruiting mean nothing unless they embrace each other. Dru is a winner, Crawford  went to the sideline and Dru  embraced him and showed him he did everything to be the best.  I will take that kind of coaching any day to that crap head Dayton coach.   We have a real winning coach, Dayton doesn't.

Last edited by NapaDuke (2/17/2025 8:47 am)

 

2/17/2025 2:17 am  #36


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

I don't know about most of what you said Napa, but I do love the way Dru handled the situation. Cam obviously knew what he did and the gravity of it. Berating him at that point would serve no purpose. Embracing him ensures he'll give everything he's got for this coach and this team. I'm not saying he hasn't been to this point, but I think Cam will be a better player, Dru a better coach, and the Dukes a better team because of this game.

 

2/17/2025 10:20 am  #37


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

luckymcd wrote:

I don't know about most of what you said Napa, but I do love the way Dru handled the situation. Cam obviously knew what he did and the gravity of it. Berating him at that point would serve no purpose. Embracing him ensures he'll give everything he's got for this coach and this team. I'm not saying he hasn't been to this point, but I think Cam will be a better player, Dru a better coach, and the Dukes a better team because of this game.

 It does sound like I rambled on a bit, but I had just watched his interview after the game. He didn't give any credit to our team  or our coach for  making a game out of it. He instead  went on that the refs made it a close game and they  favored our team? . No class.

 

2/17/2025 10:21 am  #38


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

BluffHunter wrote:

PhoenixRising2 wrote:

What is Anthony Grant whining about?  At the end of the game, it sure looked like some words were exchanged with Dru.

https://x.com/a10talk/status/1890895441060925948

I don’t know what he was so angry about. Dayton fans can’t decide whether it was about the steal on the inbound to tie it up or Dinkins “push-off” on the final shot. Grant definitely looked to have something to say to Dru. After thinking about it my thoughts are that Grant was on a B line to the officials after the buzzer enraged and Joyce just got in the crossfire trying to shake his hand like coaches are supposed to after the game or something along those lines.

Grant is most definitely upset about Trey pushing off to get clear for the final shot.  I don’t think it was as bad as it initially looked. The player was going backwards anyway and Trey’s forearm barely makes a difference. Furthermore, players throw that forearm all the time without getting called.  But it did look bad in real time.  I was pleasantly surprised with the officiating in this one. Strange how we can all see a different game - I thought the Dukes got more 50/50 calls in this one then ever before at Dayton. Sure some calls were missed but I did not feel either team gained an advantage by it which, to me, is the true mark of good officiating.  I do find it hilarious that Grant was upset with the overall officiating.  Someone should tell him that this is what it looks like when it’s called evenly. He’s just so used to getting all the calls he couldn’t control himself when it wasnt tilted to his advantage.

 

2/17/2025 10:29 am  #39


Re: Game Thread - Dayton Flyers (A)

Last thing I’ll say about officiating.  When Necas got called for a foul after Key stole the ball, that was a ticky tack foul at best. I slowed the play down and it took me 2 times to see Necas’ hand make contact with Key’s after the ball was headed out of bounds.  I don’t want to watch it again to see who the ball was out of bounds off of but if it was Key then Grant has nothing to complain about officiating.  That was a giant moment in the game and they got 2 FTs out of it.  If it was off Key it’s Dukes ball. No foul needed to be called there. So even though Grant didn’t get the last call, he got that one which was gigantic.  But, as I said before, the Dukes got their share of calls as well

 

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