I doubt that is the case; a few years ago, the NCAA issued a warning about Quality Education, the Prep School that Jordan attended, in regard to  academics at the school.  I don't know if the school made changes to upgrade academics, but the NCAA is clearly digging in its heels in regard to players recruited from that school; and is proving that it can do harm to the player and the school by refusing eligibility to its graduates.  I doubt there was much Duquesne could do in this case; except make sure that the NCAA had all of the information on Jordan's academic progress, and to file the necessary appeals.  The NCAA clearly succeeded in proving its point by causing the young man to sit out the entire year.  It wouldn't surprise me if they come out with a ruling of eligibility now that it is too late for this season.  It would be like the referees in a game where they cheat one team until the game is out of reach, and then start evening up the fouls with meaningless calls against the team they favored.  This is common practice, and actually appeared to be at work in the Duquesne - VCU game played last Saturday.  A very subtle way to screw a team and make the numbers look fair in the box score.

Challenging the NCAA is a quick way to get them sniffing around your program, and putting you on probation. As every coach pushes the envelope a bit, I doubt it would be too hard for them to find something that Ferry, or RE did wrong, and to slap us with probation to teach us a lesson. Reminds me of when Jimmy Johnson cut Curvin Richards for nodding off in a meeting. Years later he was asked if he would have cut Emmitt, or Troy for that. He laughed and said "of course not, but it sure got their attention".

It's all about money, boys. If DU were a BCS school, he would have been cleared in August. The kid has already completed a semester. What else could the NCAA possibly need?

How many BCS schools import professionals from other countries ... none of it is ever questioned.

The kid is the only one who really suffers in this.

CLK wrote:

duq81 wrote:

Challenging the NCAA is a quick way to get them sniffing around your program, and putting you on probation. As every coach pushes the envelope a bit, I doubt it would be too hard for them to find something that Ferry, or RE did wrong, and to slap us with probation to teach us a lesson. Reminds me of when Jimmy Johnson cut Curvin Richards for nodding off in a meeting. Years later he was asked if he would have cut Emmitt, or Troy for that. He laughed and said "of course not, but it sure got their attention".

First, I can not believe and think it is absurd to suggest that the NCAA is punishing Robinson to prove a point.  If they wanted to prove a point there are bigger names and programs that would have a greater effect than Robinson and Duquesne.  Secondly, that would be an incredibly stupid and dangerous move by the NCAA to punish a student to prove a point.  If that ever was made public it would damage the NCAA far more than they could ever prove any point. 

You misunderstood my post. I'm not saying that the NCAA is punishing Robinson to make a point. What I'm saying is that if Duquesne got too pushy with the NCAA over this, as you were suggesting, they might quickly put Duquesne in their place by making things hard for them. When you get pushy with people who have authority over you, the result is frequently not good for you. This is especially true if you are basically a peon, which in the world of the NCAA, Duquesne certainly is.

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duq81, this thread is getting tangled.  My respone was directed to the comment that Robinson was being punished. In that regard I never stated that DU needed to be "pushy". That is a characterization on your part.  I do believe, however, that there are situations that are worth standing up to challenge, in the right way of course.  Student welfare is one of those things if there is credible evidence and it is believed that student athlete is being unfairly punished.  If a person is in a postion of trust to help a student and never speaks up for what is right because he is afraid of reprisal what does that make him?  As I stated above, however, I do not believe the NCAA is punishing Robinson to make a point.  As for my original coment about his case not being rocket science and his file being lost on somebody's desk I conceed that "fuss" is a poor choice of words, but not that follow up is not warranted. 

Ok, we're basically on the same page then. I have little respect for the NCAA, and I don't trust them a lick. This is why when you said "fuss", I thought you might be advocating raising cain with them. Although in reality raising some cain would be justified, it probably would be counterproductive. I don't see why they just didn't deny him from the start, instead of dragging this out. It's ridiculous.

CLK, what I meant was that the player was the only one who gets hurt in this whole deal. He loses his freshman year of college. If he had been cleared a couple weeks ago, he would have wasted a big part of the year. I did not mean to imply that the NCAA was punishing anyone, at least intentionally.

The NCAA, IMHO, is inept.